What counts as a fair price when sourcing directly?

[BNLFL]

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

I ran some numbers recently, and based on how much I use now — which will probably increase — I've got roughly 13 years' worth.

 

[BNLFL]

gimmeshelter said:

I get that, but the reality is that the vast majority of people can't get into those GB groups

My inbox is flooded with invite requests and similar things. If I'm in the mood, I'll deal with them.

 

[Supremo22]

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

I ran some numbers recently, and based on how much I use now — which will probably increase — I've got roughly 13 years' worth.

I'm just wondering — suppose a few years down the line something comes along that beats tirz or reta by a wide margin. What happens to the stock you've already built up?

 

[Rtrain]

My initial order arrived today: 2 kits of R30. The cost worked out to .79/mg. For a first buy, I found that acceptable. Now I can continue searching for lower prices and get familiar with crypto.

 

[BNLFL]

Supremo22 said:

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

I ran some numbers recently, and based on how much I use now — which will probably increase — I've got roughly 13 years' worth.

I'm just wondering — suppose a few years down the line something comes along that beats tirz or reta by a wide margin. What happens to the stock you've already built up?

Don't stop using them—they do the job. Sure, I'd like a new truck, but since my current one gets me around fine, there's no reason to shell out for another. That's just how I see it.

 

[CJsMom]

It's wild how fast my mindset shifted. At first I was just relieved to track down product for $200 a month after my insurance cut me off. Now here I am breaking down cost per mg across different vendors, chasing savings that amount to barely anything...

 

[Calm Logic]

latviantower said:

Every day I drop by this forum to catch up on news, since it holds a lot of respect in the gray pep community. Through it, I ended up in several DC and TG groups. Like others have said earlier, you have to carve out your own route: chase the breadcrumbs, send DMs whenever possible, and work your contacts (“use your friends wisely”). The GB’s will show up. Both fantastic and nerve-racking experiences have come my way. Scams have never hit me, and that’s because I never reply to anyone who reaches out to me first. My top point about GB’s: they sit at the extreme end of the logistics timeline - to make it concrete, Amazon Prime occupies the opposite end from GB’s. Expect months, not days (or hours). So if you’re down to your last vial of anything, GB’s are not the move.

Still, they are cheaper than cheap. Right now I’m in one where Reta costs $0.37 per mg and Tirz costs $0.23. And yes, M/P testing is included. Across a dozen GB’s, endotoxin testing has never been part of the deal. Occasionally some individuals team up to chase endotoxin and/or heavy metal testing, but that adds cost.

The best part of saving big bucks through GB’s, for me, is helping friends and family get GLP’s (and other peps) they otherwise couldn’t afford and insurance wouldn’t cover. This isn’t a business, it’s more of a mission. And I love it.

For tirz and reta, certain suppliers have started offering that, provided the MOQ is sufficiently large.

 

[BNLFL]

Calm Logic said:

latviantower said:

Every day I drop by this forum to catch up on news, since it holds a lot of respect in the gray pep community. Through it, I ended up in several DC and TG groups. Like others have said earlier, you have to carve out your own route: chase the breadcrumbs, send DMs whenever possible, and work your contacts (“use your friends wisely”). The GB’s will show up. Both fantastic and nerve-racking experiences have come my way. Scams have never hit me, and that’s because I never reply to anyone who reaches out to me first. My top point about GB’s: they sit at the extreme end of the logistics timeline - to make it concrete, Amazon Prime occupies the opposite end from GB’s. Expect months, not days (or hours). So if you’re down to your last vial of anything, GB’s are not the move.

Still, they are cheaper than cheap. Right now I’m in one where Reta costs $0.37 per mg and Tirz costs $0.23. And yes, M/P testing is included. Across a dozen GB’s, endotoxin testing has never been part of the deal. Occasionally some individuals team up to chase endotoxin and/or heavy metal testing, but that adds cost.

The best part of saving big bucks through GB’s, for me, is helping friends and family get GLP’s (and other peps) they otherwise couldn’t afford and insurance wouldn’t cover. This isn’t a business, it’s more of a mission. And I love it.

For tirz and reta, certain suppliers have started offering that, provided the MOQ is sufficiently large.

Yes, the 3 Reta groups I belong to are having Endo tested. Every one of them hits MOQ.

 

[Calm Logic]

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

I ran some numbers recently, and based on how much I use now — which will probably increase — I've got roughly 13 years' worth.

Reta when I wake up,

Reta when the day is done,

Reta alongside dinner.

If reta stays in the freezer,

I'll stay lean through 2039.

 

[BNLFL]

Calm Logic said:

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

I ran some numbers recently, and based on how much I use now — which will probably increase — I've got roughly 13 years' worth.

Reta when I wake up,

Reta when the day is done,

Reta alongside dinner.

If reta stays in the freezer,

I'll stay lean through 2039.

At this stage, it probably makes sense anyway.

 

[MTSpace]

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

That's also where you'll come across 99% of the GB deals. It's a fascinating spot for hunting things down and testing them out. Plenty of private deals that need invites and such.

I still haven't signed up for discord or telegram, since I've placed a handful of orders for gray. It looks like I should take action, though. Are group buys unavailable on discord? How does telegram compare with discord, in terms of advantages and drawbacks?

 

[Calm Logic]

At this stage, Discord is practically unnecessary. TG is where all the solid groups are, while Discord has turned into a place where everything gets wiped out.

 

[Dos-Dox]

MTSpace said:

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

That's also where you'll come across 99% of the GB deals. It's a fascinating spot for hunting things down and testing them out. Plenty of private deals that need invites and such.

I still haven't signed up for discord or telegram, since I've placed a handful of orders for gray. It looks like I should take action, though. Are group buys unavailable on discord? How does telegram compare with discord, in terms of advantages and drawbacks?

The main advantages of TG are:

1) You can search across all servers you belong to with a single keyword. That comes in handy when hunting for batch codes, vendor names, or feedback on vendors. On Discord, searches are confined to one server at a time.

2) There’s no cap on how many servers you can join before needing a paid tier. On Discord’s free plan, you’re stuck at 100 servers—which might sound generous. But groups that get nuked tend to keep counting against your limit for ages. Some claim they eventually drop off, though that hasn’t happened for me. Plus, many verification processes let their bot drag you into replacement servers automatically. Nice in theory, but if a server gets nuked 3 times in a single day and you keep getting yanked back, your server count piles up with dead weight and restricts what you can do.

That said, having both doesn’t hurt, so you’re covered either way. Still, I believe TG alone can get you everything you need. A few groups have also opened servers on Root. I’m not a fan, but it’s useful as a backup

 

[MTSpace]

Dos-Dox said:

MTSpace said:

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

That's also where you'll come across 99% of the GB deals. It's a fascinating spot for hunting things down and testing them out. Plenty of private deals that need invites and such.

I still haven't signed up for discord or telegram, since I've placed a handful of orders for gray. It looks like I should take action, though. Are group buys unavailable on discord? How does telegram compare with discord, in terms of advantages and drawbacks?

The main advantages of TG are:

1) You can search across all servers you belong to with a single keyword. That comes in handy when hunting for batch codes, vendor names, or feedback on vendors. On Discord, searches are confined to one server at a time.

2) There’s no cap on how many servers you can join before needing a paid tier. On Discord’s free plan, you’re stuck at 100 servers—which might sound generous. But groups that get nuked tend to keep counting against your limit for ages. Some claim they eventually drop off, though that hasn’t happened for me. Plus, many verification processes let their bot drag you into replacement servers automatically. Nice in theory, but if a server gets nuked 3 times in a single day and you keep getting yanked back, your server count piles up with dead weight and restricts what you can do.

That said, having both doesn’t hurt, so you’re covered either way. Still, I believe TG alone can get you everything you need. A few groups have also opened servers on Root. I’m not a fan, but it’s useful as a backup

Appreciate the thorough response.

 

[BNLFL]

Dos-Dox said:

MTSpace said:

BNLFL said:

Supremo22 said:

At that price it's basically a giveaway — I'd end up stockpiling even more, and I've already got enough for 1 year. If someone generous felt like throwing a few crumbs my way via pm, I wouldn't say no. Usually I'm decent at tracking things down, but telegram is the one place where I'm completely hopeless.

That's also where you'll come across 99% of the GB deals. It's a fascinating spot for hunting things down and testing them out. Plenty of private deals that need invites and such.

I still haven't signed up for discord or telegram, since I've placed a handful of orders for gray. It looks like I should take action, though. Are group buys unavailable on discord? How does telegram compare with discord, in terms of advantages and drawbacks?

The main advantages of TG are:

1) You can search across all servers you belong to with a single keyword. That comes in handy when hunting for batch codes, vendor names, or feedback on vendors. On Discord, searches are confined to one server at a time.

2) There’s no cap on how many servers you can join before needing a paid tier. On Discord’s free plan, you’re stuck at 100 servers—which might sound generous. But groups that get nuked tend to keep counting against your limit for ages. Some claim they eventually drop off, though that hasn’t happened for me. Plus, many verification processes let their bot drag you into replacement servers automatically. Nice in theory, but if a server gets nuked 3 times in a single day and you keep getting yanked back, your server count piles up with dead weight and restricts what you can do.

That said, having both doesn’t hurt, so you’re covered either way. Still, I believe TG alone can get you everything you need. A few groups have also opened servers on Root. I’m not a fan, but it’s useful as a backup

I've got both as well, though TG is basically the only one I use, and I'm a fan — even if it's drained my wallet quite a bit. Root invite is available through WW. That's the sole instance I've come across. As for Discord, it just leaves me completely lost.