Vomited 2 times in the past week

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Fifty-five years. In that time, roughly ten instances of throwing up come to mind, and 7 of them happened back when I was young and overdid it with alcohol. Throwing up just isn't something I do — yet this week it happened 2 times. My digestion and the peptides I'm using seem like the likely culprit, most likely RETA and Cagri. Nothing out of the ordinary went into my mouth. All day long, my wife and kid consumed the identical meals I did. The only deviations from my routine were eating at a slightly later hour than usual and taking in a somewhat bigger serving than usual — nothing extreme, just above my norm.

When you're on peptides that delay digestion, I figure this kind of thing probably isn't rare. Curious whether anyone else has dealt with the same. For reference: week 14 of reta at 2.5mg/2x week, cagri .5mg/2x week was added a couple weeks back, plus klow AD5 mots and tesa.
 
Peps-Enthusiast said:

Fifty-five years. In that time, roughly ten instances of throwing up come to mind, and 7 of them happened back when I was young and overdid it with alcohol. Throwing up just isn't something I do — yet this week it happened 2 times. My digestion and the peptides I'm using seem like the likely culprit, most likely RETA and Cagri. Nothing out of the ordinary went into my mouth. All day long, my wife and kid consumed the identical meals I did. The only deviations from my routine were eating at a slightly later hour than usual and taking in a somewhat bigger serving than usual — nothing extreme, just above my norm.

When you're on peptides that delay digestion, I figure this kind of thing probably isn't rare. Curious whether anyone else has dealt with the same. For reference: week 14 of reta at 2.5mg/2x week, cagri .5mg/2x week was added a couple weeks back, plus klow AD5 mots and tesa.
During my first week on tirz at 2.5mg, I vomited (I'm sensitive to medications)...hiccups were awful...acid reflux too...For the first 2-3 weeks, the acid reflux lingered, mainly during the night. Tums were something I used frequently. After 4 weeks I moved up to 5mg, and after 12 weeks to 7.5mg. These days I have zero stomach problems. Your body does adapt, though I also began BPC-157 and KPV, which I believe made a big difference for my digestion issues...Either way, those symptoms improve fairly fast....GL!
 
Peps-Enthusiast said:

Fifty-five years. In that time, roughly ten instances of throwing up come to mind, and 7 of them happened back when I was young and overdid it with alcohol. Throwing up just isn't something I do — yet this week it happened 2 times. My digestion and the peptides I'm using seem like the likely culprit, most likely RETA and Cagri. Nothing out of the ordinary went into my mouth. All day long, my wife and kid consumed the identical meals I did. The only deviations from my routine were eating at a slightly later hour than usual and taking in a somewhat bigger serving than usual — nothing extreme, just above my norm.

When you're on peptides that delay digestion, I figure this kind of thing probably isn't rare. Curious whether anyone else has dealt with the same. For reference: week 14 of reta at 2.5mg/2x week, cagri .5mg/2x week was added a couple weeks back, plus klow AD5 mots and tesa.
Cagri is probably the culprit. I gave Cagri a try as well, at 0.5 mg, and found that the moment I consumed slightly more food, I immediately needed to lie down from nausea. My suggestion: quit Cagri, and if its appetite suppression doesn't sit well with you, move up to a larger Reta dose instead.
 
Since I began reta, I've dealt with intense nausea on 2 occasions.

The 1st episode came 2 days after my initial 2mg dose. I'd felt okay on day 1, so — foolishly — I drank a few beers and ate leftovers right before going to sleep. A few hours later I jolted awake feeling sick in a way that took me straight back to the stomach bugs I had as a kid. I didn't throw up, but the following day I was completely drained.

The 2nd episode happened during a week when I was titrating up, using a fresh vial from another supplier. I lay down, then almost immediately had to get up again for the bathroom. For whatever reason, the nausea came over me once more. Again, no vomiting, but I felt absolutely awful for a stretch.

Bottom line: when I start a new vial, I need to be cautious about how I dose.
 
How are you managing to get more food down while on Reta? For me, eating has basically turned into something I have to force myself to do.
 
Bluecost10 said:

Peps-Enthusiast said:

Fifty-five years. In that time, roughly ten instances of throwing up come to mind, and 7 of them happened back when I was young and overdid it with alcohol. Throwing up just isn't something I do — yet this week it happened 2 times. My digestion and the peptides I'm using seem like the likely culprit, most likely RETA and Cagri. Nothing out of the ordinary went into my mouth. All day long, my wife and kid consumed the identical meals I did. The only deviations from my routine were eating at a slightly later hour than usual and taking in a somewhat bigger serving than usual — nothing extreme, just above my norm.

When you're on peptides that delay digestion, I figure this kind of thing probably isn't rare. Curious whether anyone else has dealt with the same. For reference: week 14 of reta at 2.5mg/2x week, cagri .5mg/2x week was added a couple weeks back, plus klow AD5 mots and tesa.
Cagri is probably the culprit. I gave Cagri a try as well, at 0.5 mg, and found that the moment I consumed slightly more food, I immediately needed to lie down from nausea. My suggestion: quit Cagri, and if its appetite suppression doesn't sit well with you, move up to a larger Reta dose instead.
That makes sense to me. It's the most recent thing I added to the stack, and I increased the dose from .25mg to .5mg. I'll drop back to .2mg and see how it goes.
 
BNLFL said:

How are you managing to get more food down while on Reta? For me, eating has basically turned into something I have to force myself to do.
What's odd with Reta is that hunger never shows up for me until the moment food hits my mouth. After that first bite, appetite kicks in and I can put away a lot. Usually I hold back since, well, you already know why. This week, though, I went a little past my normal amount, and on both occasions my digestive system punished me severely. I woke at 3am feeling swollen, full of gas, and really awful. The burps had that disgusting flavor, so I figured vomiting was coming sooner or later. Sure enough, a few hours afterward, boom, down 2 lbs.
 
Reta made me incredibly hungry — no nausea at all — it had me wanting to eat a horse and gave me more energy. Cag I've never used, and I've never puked on a glp.

My suggestion would be to drop the Cag entirely, since GI problems are commonly reported by ppl using it. Also, line up your Reta injection days with the days you plan to eat heavily; from day 4 onward I can typically handle big meals with no GI discomfort.

Also, when you say "eat a little more than usual" — did eating feel okay to you, or was your stomach tight, or did you feel nauseous?
 
Peps-Enthusiast said:

Fifty-five years. In that time, roughly ten instances of throwing up come to mind, and 7 of them happened back when I was young and overdid it with alcohol. Throwing up just isn't something I do — yet this week it happened 2 times. My digestion and the peptides I'm using seem like the likely culprit, most likely RETA and Cagri. Nothing out of the ordinary went into my mouth. All day long, my wife and kid consumed the identical meals I did. The only deviations from my routine were eating at a slightly later hour than usual and taking in a somewhat bigger serving than usual — nothing extreme, just above my norm.

When you're on peptides that delay digestion, I figure this kind of thing probably isn't rare. Curious whether anyone else has dealt with the same. For reference: week 14 of reta at 2.5mg/2x week, cagri .5mg/2x week was added a couple weeks back, plus klow AD5 mots and tesa.
Vomiting isn't something that happens to me, yet now and then I deal with serious nausea or a whole day of running to the bathroom. My stack is close to yours.
 
TazaTaza said:

Reta made me incredibly hungry — no nausea at all — it had me wanting to eat a horse and gave me more energy. Cag I've never used, and I've never puked on a glp.

My suggestion would be to drop the Cag entirely, since GI problems are commonly reported by ppl using it. Also, line up your Reta injection days with the days you plan to eat heavily; from day 4 onward I can typically handle big meals with no GI discomfort.

Also, when you say "eat a little more than usual" — did eating feel okay to you, or was your stomach tight, or did you feel nauseous?
Everything here is about proportions. Back when I'd finish two whole plates, that was 1.3x-1.5x more than I should have been eating. These days, compared to that, most dinners are just .5-.7 of a plate for me. On the two evenings I got sick, I had a full plate, possibly a bit beyond that, but right before that I had also bumped my cag up to .5mg. My strong suspicion now is that without the Cag in the mix, none of this would have happened. At .25mg of Cag, I can't remember running into any problems, so my plan is to miss the upcoming shot, drop back to .2mg afterward, and then see how things look.
 
Ignore certain individuals. A few of them act a lot like Smiter. That was before you joined, I'm sure.
 
Without details on what you've actually been consuming, it's tough to give an answer. One option is to strip things down: broth with chicken plus just potatoes and carrots, or a little serving of plain oatmeal and eggs (hold the milk), then slowly add more. Another route: take a break from pinning for 1-2+ weeks and check whether things settle back. KPV might be worth a shot too, to see whether it aids the gut.
 
headward said:

Without details on what you've actually been consuming, it's tough to give an answer. One option is to strip things down: broth with chicken plus just potatoes and carrots, or a little serving of plain oatmeal and eggs (hold the milk), then slowly add more. Another route: take a break from pinning for 1-2+ weeks and check whether things settle back. KPV might be worth a shot too, to see whether it aids the gut.

For months my diet hasn't changed, and neither has the way I digest food. In the morning I have a latte, then protein shakes in the late morning and early afternoon, and sometimes a salad too. With most meals I usually have some kimchi, a protein of some kind, 1 or 2 soft boiled eggs, and a bit of white rice. My daily intake is 1700-2000 calories, and I'm 6'5 265 (currently - I used to be 301). On top of that I lift weights every day and run, walk or hike 3-4 days a week, so the calories I'm burning are far more than what I'm taking in. With Reta I could always notice the slow digestion, but Cagri lands like a ton of bricks and shuts digestion down completely, at least once the dose goes higher. It's a genuine firecracker, though a helpful one if the heat is something you can take.
 
Peps-Enthusiast said:

headward said:

Without details on what you've actually been consuming, it's tough to give an answer. One option is to strip things down: broth with chicken plus just potatoes and carrots, or a little serving of plain oatmeal and eggs (hold the milk), then slowly add more. Another route: take a break from pinning for 1-2+ weeks and check whether things settle back. KPV might be worth a shot too, to see whether it aids the gut.

For months my diet hasn't changed, and neither has the way I digest food. In the morning I have a latte, then protein shakes in the late morning and early afternoon, and sometimes a salad too. With most meals I usually have some kimchi, a protein of some kind, 1 or 2 soft boiled eggs, and a bit of white rice. My daily intake is 1700-2000 calories, and I'm 6'5 265 (currently - I used to be 301). On top of that I lift weights every day and run, walk or hike 3-4 days a week, so the calories I'm burning are far more than what I'm taking in. With Reta I could always notice the slow digestion, but Cagri lands like a ton of bricks and shuts digestion down completely, at least once the dose goes higher. It's a genuine firecracker, though a helpful one if the heat is something you can take.
Because Reta and cagri both delay stomach emptying and suppress appetite, items like a latte or other dairy, protein shakes consumed again and again, kimchi or other fermented foods, fiber from salad, eggs or fats, and large amounts of rice may remain in the stomach longer. That can lead to gas and nausea.

Possible steps: drop shakes down to 1 each day, switch to lactose-free options, pause kimchi and salad for now, serve smaller portions, reduce fat intake, and keep up fluids plus electrolytes.
 
A few weeks ago I went to a wedding. On the drive back we grabbed fast food. Heartburn hit right away, then I hiccuped for 3 hours, and eventually threw everything up. (Across 7 hours, I had just 3 drinks.)
 
headward said:

Peps-Enthusiast said:

headward said:

Without details on what you've actually been consuming, it's tough to give an answer. One option is to strip things down: broth with chicken plus just potatoes and carrots, or a little serving of plain oatmeal and eggs (hold the milk), then slowly add more. Another route: take a break from pinning for 1-2+ weeks and check whether things settle back. KPV might be worth a shot too, to see whether it aids the gut.

For months my diet hasn't changed, and neither has the way I digest food. In the morning I have a latte, then protein shakes in the late morning and early afternoon, and sometimes a salad too. With most meals I usually have some kimchi, a protein of some kind, 1 or 2 soft boiled eggs, and a bit of white rice. My daily intake is 1700-2000 calories, and I'm 6'5 265 (currently - I used to be 301). On top of that I lift weights every day and run, walk or hike 3-4 days a week, so the calories I'm burning are far more than what I'm taking in. With Reta I could always notice the slow digestion, but Cagri lands like a ton of bricks and shuts digestion down completely, at least once the dose goes higher. It's a genuine firecracker, though a helpful one if the heat is something you can take.
Because Reta and cagri both delay stomach emptying and suppress appetite, items like a latte or other dairy, protein shakes consumed again and again, kimchi or other fermented foods, fiber from salad, eggs or fats, and large amounts of rice may remain in the stomach longer. That can lead to gas and nausea.

Possible steps: drop shakes down to 1 each day, switch to lactose-free options, pause kimchi and salad for now, serve smaller portions, reduce fat intake, and keep up fluids plus electrolytes.
I only take a few sips of the protein shake, hardly finishing half of it. My meals are extremely small.
 
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