betchrider
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how’s this going now mate? My scales creeping up with big deficit and 3 mg of Reta
Tesa experience?
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RealRustyShackleford
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I'm no longer gaining water weight and the scale is going down. Took around 6 weeks of adding weight for it to finally stop.
betchrider
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Nice one. Have you noticed fat loss?
Bundabaddie
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Having my husband start on this probably this week. We were going to start him at a 2mg. Should I drop him down to 1mg? Just reading over all the comments here and that seems to be best? At least for a week when just starting out. Pros and cons to that?
Quatroskin
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How do you determine how the dosage for a Tesa/IPA blend. There’s some listed right now I was thinking about getting 9/4.3 (Tesa/IPa) but have no clue where to start with reconstitution or dosing with itDragonOfTheSea said:
This.
And this.
Just pin as soon as you wake... you'll get the hang of it.
I also pin AM, first thing on waking, and always wait 2 hours before my daily protein shake with mushroom coffee. Ensures fasted state and prohibits weird dream stuffs.
I've been pinning 2:1 Tesa:Ipa conservatively 500mcg:250mcg daily for 13 days now. Feeling fantastic, increased general energy, sleep is solid, beginning muscle/body recomp after hitting goal weight last week
No negative sides noticed, no water weight increase, I'm planning on staying lower dose to retain a longer protocol.
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I have a very pleasant side effect of Tesa. Normally I never remember if I have been dreaming or not.
At the moment I am pinning 1mg tesa at 03:00 Am and start my first run with the truck. Then have time to sleep extra 2 hours from 06:30 to 08:30 when they are unloading containers at distribution center. In that time I stay dreaming and remember everything when I wake up. But unbelieavable how surrealistic they are.
Distribution center where I go is at the border of Germany and there is also a bunker from 2nd world war on property ground. Seeing friendly Nazi soldiers inviting me for coffee at the bunker. Distribution center has 2 ports to load and unload trucks. But I see more than 20 ports and having difficulty to find my truck, when it is time to drive back. Then a Nazi soldier tells me that he knows where my truck is. My truck has yellow colour and he brings me to a truck with black colour. Nothing strange at that moment yet. I step inside the truck and it starts with my key without any problems. But than I realise that it is not my truck because of strange interior. So much surrealism makes me realise in my dream that I am dreaming. Then I wake up with real bonk, bonk, bonk sound at my door and one of the workers says that they have finished unloading
I stay laughing at myself whole day. What I have told is just one day. Everyday a new awesome adventure. I think, I will use it whole my life.I am sure it is because of Tesa. Because I pin it once a day and don't remember any dream from my night sleep. Tesa ROCKS
reta-stacker
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Wow, way cool that you are able to recall the dream with such clarity. Years ago when I was using nicotine patches to help quit smoking, I also had incredible realistic and memorable dreams, so much so that I looked forward to going to bed just so I could watch the "movies' in my head. Unforch, none of my peps is affecting my dreams, and I remember nothing when waking.skaylife said:
I have a very pleasant side effect of Tesa. Normally I never remember if I have been dreaming or not.
At the moment I am pinning 1mg tesa at 03:00 Am and start my first run with the truck. Then have time to sleep extra 2 hours from 06:30 to 08:30 when they are unloading containers at distribution center. In that time I stay dreaming and remember everything when I wake up. But unbelieavable how surrealistic they are.
Distribution center where I go is at the border of Germany and there is also a bunker from 2nd world war on property ground. Seeing friendly Nazi soldiers inviting me for coffee at the bunker. Distribution center has 2 ports to load and unload trucks. But I see more than 20 ports and having difficulty to find my truck, when it is time to drive back. Then a Nazi soldier tells me that he knows where my truck is. My truck has yellow colour and he brings me to a truck with black colour. Nothing strange at that moment yet. I step inside the truck and it starts with my key without any problems. But than I realise that it is not my truck because of strange interior. So much surrealism makes me realise in my dream that I am dreaming. Then I wake up with real bonk, bonk, bonk sound at my door and one of the workers says that they have finished unloading
I am sure it is because of Tesa. Because I pin it once a day and don't remember any dream from my night sleep. Tesa ROCKS
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reta-stacker
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I've been on Tesa for 12 weeks now, daily 2.5mg first thing in the morning, so fasted. No discernible sides, no ISRs, but also no significant weight loss that I can ascribe to Tesa (I'm also on Reta since late March, 2.25mg twice a week). If I recall correctly, the original studies with HIV pos patients showed an average 15% reduction in visceral fat over 26 weeks, which is really not a dramatic improvement, i.e. if you were carrying around 10 lbs of visceral fat, you'd drop 1.5 lbs of it after 6 months of pinning one of the most expensive peps on a daily basis, assuming your response was "average". I recently watched an influencer podcast suggesting that one would be better off passing on Tesa and just using CJC-IPA blend. Other influencers describe Tesa as "powerful". My experience is more like "meh".
You may not expect weight loss from Tesa, Ipa or CJC. You get more hunger feeling from HGRH. Tesa holds also extra water in your body, while it eliminates visceral fat.
I still loose some weight with Elora+Tesa. But it is calorie deficiet and training which causes that. I am also not a good drinker. Drink 4-5 cups of black coffee and max 1.5 liter water a day. That is much under recommended. But it is not on purpose. I just don't need it
UpDownLeftRightAS*
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It's great but don't go crazy on stocking up too much. If you find that you have an allergy to MOTS-C you could end up with a reaction to the Tesa eventually as well. It's not as bad and you can endure it...it's just annoying.
ultimawar2
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Bioexplorer said:
Another data point here. I was on reta for a couple months and lifting weights consistently 3x a week. Workouts became progressively more difficult and I needed to reduce weight to complete my sets. I tried eating more carbs before heading to the gym but no help. Probably dropped about 3 to 5% across all sets.
So I added CJC/IPA 0.3mg before bed on weekdays. Tried this for a few weeks and saw no real benefit. Then I read a suggestion to try it in the morning an hour before any food and noticed a difference within a few days. Started increasing weights every week again and made nice gains over the month while continuing to lose weight. Then took a couple week break while on vacation.
A friend tried Tesa but had intolerable side effects so gave me a kit of 10mg to try. I started 1mg on weekday mornings. If anything, the recovery and strength gains are better than CJC/IPA and my deep sleep duration has increased per my smart watch. Increasing weight lately on every session. Will check my IGF-1 in a few weeks.
Side note, I've been on 50mg/week TRT for many years which puts me around 500. Doc says that's fine.
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How long do you have to wait before eating, after the morning pin?
Bioexplorer
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Some would say you don't need to wait at all since the original clinical trial on tesamorelin was quite effective at reducing visceral fat with no dietary restrictions. But knowing how insulin can theoretically affect how sectetagogues work, it makes sense that they could be more effective in a fasted state.
I usually wait an hour before eating but who knows if that helps. Plenty of people who ignored the fasting advice reported good IGF-1 gains. And to be honest, I start drinking black coffee shortly after pinning and caffeine also theoretically impairs effectiveness by increasing cortisol.
IronCircuit
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It’s getting so annoying that I’m highly considering switching to hgh. I can’t pin without a welt or lump that itches for 3-4 days.
Calm Logic
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I liked hexarelin as far as zero sides or ISRs.
I'm on 2mg reta/week, SS31 1mg M-F, MotsC 2mg MWF, and 1mg tesa M-F before bed. Kind of like skaylife I've been remembering my dreams when I wake up. I'm not having any side effects and I feel good. I am on week 3 and I plan to keep going. As of now I may up the reta to 3mg because my hunger has increased, but I'm not sure if it is from tesa, or the ss31, and MotsC. I may add NAD+ to the stack, but I feel like I'm pinning a lot already.
UpDownLeftRightAS*
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I know.... :/ I need to check the community CoA's....maybe there is a batch out there with some foreign substances triggering something.
Troposphere
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I made the switch from CJC/ipa to GH and have been pleased with the difference. No more weird side effects like flushing and I can pin without timing around meals. My z score increased from -0.2 on CJC/Ipa to 1.2 on GH
I got hungrier on CJC/Ipa and GH than without. I went from 3mg/wk to 4mg/wk and started losing weight again.
I'm below my goal weight now and 5lbs away from matching the lowest weight I've ever been as an adult.
IronCircuit
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Did you switch because of those issues? What IU are you currently taking?
My Tesa/Ipa response has been phenomenal otherwise. Z score from 0.2 -> 1.7 on 2mg. Fatloss, recovery and strength gains has been incredible. But the feeling that I’m getting itchy welts that last for days just doesn’t feel right, and makes every injection a process and an annoyance.
Also agree that I hate trying to time it. I’d rather take it at night, but eat dinner late so I don’t feel like 2 hours is enough room and end up doing it in the morning. I have no issue with morning other than I have to rush/hide around my toddler who wants and deserves my attention.
Side note I’m ravenous on Tesa/Ipa once I came off Reta. It def increases appetite.