Safeguarding the vial's top

[GTS97]

CandyCap said:

GTS97 said:

5byfive said:

No one in this community is bringing that up. In reality, the thread says the exact reverse. Should your only aim be to find fault and start arguments, I'd recommend heading off to Reddit. That place will suit you more.

While nobody came right out and stated it, the thought will cross somebody's mind; for the sake of infection control once more, it deserves a mention.

A fair observation was raised by someone about these not being stocked by any medical stores. That lines up with what I was getting at. I'm not looking for arguments, and if something this minor bothers you, I'd suggest turning your attention inward.

GTS97 said:

5byfive said:

No one in this community is bringing that up. In reality, the thread says the exact reverse. Should your only aim be to find fault and start arguments, I'd recommend heading off to Reddit. That place will suit you more.

While nobody came right out and stated it, the thought will cross somebody's mind; for the sake of infection control once more, it deserves a mention.

A fair observation was raised by someone about these not being stocked by any medical stores. That lines up with what I was getting at. I'm not looking for arguments, and if something this minor bothers you, I'd suggest turning your attention inward.

Pharmacies won't serve customers who store their supplies in a fridge alongside food. Likewise, hospitals never place meals in the medication fridge or medications in the food fridge.

When a practice helps someone feel safer, and harms neither you nor the person doing it, there's no problem. Your hypothetical suggesting people would stop wiping their vials is simply ridiculous.



As you yourself put it, "if you are offended by something so trivial I suggest you look inward" — and perhaps take a break from the keyboard.

had to quote it twice do to getting an error saying my post went against rules. For some reason, 2 quotes stopped it

Yet the reality remains that harm could come to them from this — assuming such an outcome is completely out of the question is both uninformed and mistaken.

Nor is this some far-fetched hypothetical, since it can genuinely happen. Do you have any firsthand medical background?? I spent time working in healthcare. I knew colleagues who believed that because medications sat inside a closed, sterile cabinet, they no longer had any reason to wipe a vial's top.

 

[CandyCap]

GTS97 said:

CandyCap said:

GTS97 said:

5byfive said:

No one in this community is bringing that up. In reality, the thread says the exact reverse. Should your only aim be to find fault and start arguments, I'd recommend heading off to Reddit. That place will suit you more.

While nobody came right out and stated it, the thought will cross somebody's mind; for the sake of infection control once more, it deserves a mention.

A fair observation was raised by someone about these not being stocked by any medical stores. That lines up with what I was getting at. I'm not looking for arguments, and if something this minor bothers you, I'd suggest turning your attention inward.

GTS97 said:

5byfive said:

No one in this community is bringing that up. In reality, the thread says the exact reverse. Should your only aim be to find fault and start arguments, I'd recommend heading off to Reddit. That place will suit you more.

While nobody came right out and stated it, the thought will cross somebody's mind; for the sake of infection control once more, it deserves a mention.

A fair observation was raised by someone about these not being stocked by any medical stores. That lines up with what I was getting at. I'm not looking for arguments, and if something this minor bothers you, I'd suggest turning your attention inward.

Pharmacies won't serve customers who store their supplies in a fridge alongside food. Likewise, hospitals never place meals in the medication fridge or medications in the food fridge.

When a practice helps someone feel safer, and harms neither you nor the person doing it, there's no problem. Your hypothetical suggesting people would stop wiping their vials is simply ridiculous.



As you yourself put it, "if you are offended by something so trivial I suggest you look inward" — and perhaps take a break from the keyboard.

had to quote it twice do to getting an error saying my post went against rules. For some reason, 2 quotes stopped it

Yet the reality remains that harm could come to them from this — assuming such an outcome is completely out of the question is both uninformed and mistaken.

Nor is this some far-fetched hypothetical, since it can genuinely happen. Do you have any firsthand medical background?? I spent time working in healthcare. I knew colleagues who believed that because medications sat inside a closed, sterile cabinet, they no longer had any reason to wipe a vial's top.

I spent a good number of years working in the medical field.

Stupid people exist in every corner.

Should someone skip wiping their vials, that's a separate problem regardless of why. Their bigger problems have nothing to do with what we're discussing.

If a person does wipe their vials and decides to put a cover on, and that gets under your skin, then the problem belongs to you. No studies demonstrate harm—only theories—and unless those studies were run in a household fridge containing moldy food, they don't really have any bearing here.

 

[BNLFL]

The way he presents himself gives me an impression I'd rather keep to myself.

 

[rokowho]

At first, my approach was to keep certain vials inside medicine bottles (these were compounded meds), while the rs grays went into ziplocks placed on a condiment door shelf. Over the course of my orders, I ended up with some vial caps (and I also discovered that the pink caps from sodastream CO2 canisters are a match for the larger vials), so I reused those to keep things covered. Still, I wasn't particularly pleased with that setup for in-use storage, both because of germ concerns and because anyone opening the fridge could see them. So I went ahead and purchased a soft silicone container that comes with a lid and a vial holder insert, meant for the fridge. Now every research vial I'm actively using goes inside it, where they're protected and hidden from view within the silicone container. I keep changing my mind about whether vial caps help or hurt compared to going without them, for the reasons other people in this thread have already mentioned. That said, because I wipe the lids with alcohol both before and after each time I access them and let them dry, I figure the moisture trapped in the caps is minimal and might actually shield against a stray airborne germ drifting by while the container is open. I don't seal the caps tightly inside the storage container; the point is just to cut down on direct exposure.)

Now that I've begun actively filtering every vial on recon, all the sterile new vials I filter into are uniform in size, which should make in-use storage a bit simpler from here on, since I won't have 5ml vials alongside larger GLOW vials (10mg?) sharing the same space. Right now I'm going through 10mg steriles, but on my next supplies order I'm thinking of moving to 5mg steriles and simply filtering the bigger Glows and Klows into two 5mg vials at the filtering step. The logic is that having less extra air in the 5mg vials compared to the 10 likely means slightly less cootie exposure. For some reason, the last time I purchased empty steriles, the 10mg ones cost less than the 5s.

 

[Vriende]

GTS97 said:

5byfive said:

No one in this community is bringing that up. In reality, the thread says the exact reverse. Should your only aim be to find fault and start arguments, I'd recommend heading off to Reddit. That place will suit you more.

While nobody came right out and stated it, the thought will cross somebody's mind; for the sake of infection control once more, it deserves a mention.

A fair observation was raised by someone about these not being stocked by any medical stores. That lines up with what I was getting at. I'm not looking for arguments, and if something this minor bothers you, I'd suggest turning your attention inward.

Indeed, you are picking fights -- you pick fights every single day, and you snap back whenever someone asks you to be kind.

Because you still haven't read them, or haven't understood them, I'm going to quote the following for you from




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B. BE NICE (a/k/a DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE): Clever sarcasm and healthy, meaningful debate (sometimes sprinkled with a bit of "Tough Love") are one matter, but intentional arguing, harassment, bullying, name-calling, etc. have no place here. Everyone is expected to behave like an adult. If someone or something they say bothers you, simply move on in peace. Disagreeing doesn't require being disagreeable. Being nice tends to be far simpler and less stressful than being a jerk.

 

[GTS97]

Vriende said:

GTS97 said:

5byfive said:

No one in this community is bringing that up. In reality, the thread says the exact reverse. Should your only aim be to find fault and start arguments, I'd recommend heading off to Reddit. That place will suit you more.

While nobody came right out and stated it, the thought will cross somebody's mind; for the sake of infection control once more, it deserves a mention.

A fair observation was raised by someone about these not being stocked by any medical stores. That lines up with what I was getting at. I'm not looking for arguments, and if something this minor bothers you, I'd suggest turning your attention inward.

Indeed, you are picking fights -- you pick fights every single day, and you snap back whenever someone asks you to be kind.

Because you still haven't read them, or haven't understood them, I'm going to quote the following for you from




Forum Rules



All members of the forum are required to follow these rules.

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GLP1Chat.com

B. BE NICE (a/k/a DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE): Clever sarcasm and healthy, meaningful debate (sometimes sprinkled with a bit of "Tough Love") are one matter, but intentional arguing, harassment, bullying, name-calling, etc. have no place here. Everyone is expected to behave like an adult. If someone or something they say bothers you, simply move on in peace. Disagreeing doesn't require being disagreeable. Being nice tends to be far simpler and less stressful than being a jerk.

You're taking my literal way of speaking and my bluntness as something negative. Once more: I am not looking for arguments. It's true that I don't have much tolerance for ignorance, but when someone is given a correction and decides to feel insulted by it, that isn't on me.

 

[CandyCap]

If someone is merely being blunt, cracking up at each and every post (those whose thoughts don't match yours) is not a typical reaction.

Just so you know, it appears that a second account was made by him to "like" his own content and "laugh" at other people's.

Also, "literality" isn't an actual word.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

woundcarping said:

If my reconstituted vials were kept in the same cooled air and space as raw meats, spoiled leftovers, coli, listeria, salmonella, staph, fungi, and the like, then I would put each one into its own medicine bottle — a practice I have observed in medical settings.

As a rule, kitchen refrigerators are filthy places where things multiply.

Mine live in a fridge case. That drawer is reserved for them alone; only if there's truly no other option does anything else get placed inside.

 

[RoadRash]

BNLFL said:

The way he presents himself gives me an impression I'd rather keep to myself.

A bit of a jerk move, I'd say.

 

[SeaGypsy]

GTS97 said:

5byfive said:

GTS97 said:

Honestly, a few of you are way overthinking this.

Alternatively, for certain individuals this is a genuine source of pleasure and turns into a pastime. They take satisfaction in dedicating time, attention, and money to the pursuits they love. It brings them joy. There's no need to be such a killjoy.

Yet when a practice serves no purpose and isn't needed, and when somebody could observe it and conclude they can stop wiping the vial's top, that's when it turns into an issue.

Who exactly are you trying to correct here? If nothing about it is harmful, why does it bother you so much? Not a single person claimed they skip wiping the vial tops before use. I put the vial caps on because having the tops covered makes me feel better — that's my decision. Mine are actually labeled, so when I open the box I can tell which vial is currently in use. Once a vial is done, I mix up the next one and move the labeled cap onto it. To me, then, they serve a purpose.

 

[neo6488]

I store my open vials inside a small snapware box. That way they stay apart and shut off from everything else.

 

[Fordhayes]

I keep my mixed peptides in the fridge inside a zippered essential oil case that holds 15 slots. It blocks light and gives them a bit of protection. A cap cover for the vial isn't necessary. For the remaining supply, I put it in a Hydrapeak food jar with vial inserts and place that in the freezer.