There are clearly multiple perspectives in this thread, and I appreciate that you're staying patient, understanding, and open to giving the wholesaler a chance to fix things.
Exactly this. No disrespect intended, but folks act like they're ordering off Amazon Prime. In reality, you're dealing with a drug dealer thousands of miles away. I've placed multiple orders across 4 or 5 vendors, and I go in expecting weeks of waiting, plus possible snags here and there. Vet your sources properly and you won't get scammed, it just sometimes drags on.
Let me clear up a couple of points: I'm located in the US, and I only brought up the Australian situation because I saw it playing out on TG, which was disheartening to witness. Also, I'm a woman—Amos was the name of my dog. It's dawned on me that my username gives the wrong impression, haha. My bad about that.
You can't just sit back and wait — you need to keep pushing them. They'll keep feeding you excuses for as long as they can get away with it. In my case, I've ended up calling them out in their public chat. Once that happens, they suddenly move fast. The moment I make their service visible to everyone, my refund shows up. I don't enjoy handling it that way, but at the same time I figure I'm doing a favor for whoever comes next — maybe they'll pause before choosing that vendor. Holding onto someone's money like that isn't right, especially when that money is what you need to make a purchase.
Honestly, in my view, these sellers from China are on our side far more than the FDA and Big Pharma duo, who will only offer us things such as GLP1 at outrageous prices. When Big Pharma's prices are out of reach for us, they are perfectly fine watching people die from obesity-related diseases and so on, or instead they'll turn around and sell you their other medications that address the symptoms (Statins, for example) and so on, without curing the root problem.
Just thinking about going down that road makes me incredibly anxious. Drama is something I can't stand, and I really don't want to be put on the spot. On top of that, I feel awful when someone's feelings get hurt — especially if it turns out I got the wrong idea about something and ended up unfairly making them look bad. Either way, my only hope is that they simply go through with giving me my money back, so this whole thing can finally be finished.
That's 100% exactly right. A lot of the younger crowd joining these GB for the first time clearly never bother to read anything. The organizer literally states "This can take 6-12 weeks, or longer." Usually it's made to order, and it's shipped from China. Shipping, customs, all of that. Then just a few weeks in: "where's my stuff." I bet they're dying to strangle those people. Same folks who never looked into the stuff at all, just heard about it from a friend, and then invent some insane dosing schedule.
You're correct when it comes to big pharma, but don't let the "DEAR and HONEY bs" fool you. If your health mattered to them, they wouldn't be selling underdosed or overdosed items, products with wrong labels, or stuff containing endotoxins. Should their product kill you, NO one will be held accountable. They have a business model, they stick to it, and we keep buying! IT"S CHINA...
Sadly, since this is the grey market, they count on you staying quiet because you feel awkward. When your cash matters to you, there are times you have to make it clear you mean business.
If you don't want to deal with the hassle, I'd follow the advice others have given. Leave them a negative review. Based on conversations I've had with people in this community, it seems like they know just the right things to say that will put a vendor in a really awkward spot.
A similar approach works if you say something like "I realize some things are outside your control, but I do appreciate your help in sorting this out," and add that "once the order arrives, I'll post a positive review" on x,y,z platform. That tends to work much better than grumbling to them about writing a bad review.
