Labcat take a look at this :) this supplier says it's a manufacturer, with a site and lab details.

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Kerui Peptide HongKong Co., LTD.

www.keruihk.com

To you, does this seem all legit?

I'm gonna put some of those pix through ai and find out what it says.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Alright, I looked at it...

 

[ZippityDooDah]

That ChatGPT "analysis" is about as helpful as asking the neighborhood heroin addict whether their dealer can be trusted.

Whoever thinks these Chinese companies should have a perfectly built, precise, SEO-tuned website for their black market goods is either fooling themselves about what they're purchasing and who they're purchasing from, or regularly gets baffled by analog clocks.

 

[FRMN01]

If they're a real established business, there ought to be some trace of them on Alibaba or Made-in-China. I couldn't find anything.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

It looks like there's a basic confusion about the identity of these businesses and the way they run.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

ZippityDooDah said:

It looks like there's a basic confusion about the identity of these businesses and the way they run.

So you're telling me my shady Chinese drug supplier lacks both a secretary and a web development crew?

 

[Mr. Blonde]

You really ought to phone their HR department and lodge a complaint.

 

[jemifus]

Mr. Blonde said:

You really ought to phone their HR department and lodge a complaint.

Skip it. Every rep I dealt with addressed me as “honey,” “sweetie,” and “dear,” and when I went to hr, they were f**king worthless.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Lol, I came across them listed among the vendors, traced their trail, and at first glance it seems above board. But unlike Zippity, I put a lot of trust in my Ai for "certain" matters, and it exposed just how messed up this company is.

It would've been amusing if they turned out to be a real Chinese manufacturer — there's got to be at least 1 or 2 out there, since pure product does circulate in the gray market, and science can be tough..

But turns out it's not these f***ers

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Gr33dyOctopus said:

Lol, I came across them listed among the vendors, traced their trail, and at first glance it seems above board. But unlike Zippity, I put a lot of trust in my Ai for "certain" matters, and it exposed just how messed up this company is.

It would've been amusing if they turned out to be a real Chinese manufacturer — there's got to be at least 1 or 2 out there, since pure product does circulate in the gray market, and science can be tough..

But turns out it's not these f***ers

The term underground labs exists precisely because of what they are. Acting like a website or an AI report can establish product purity is strange.

When it comes to underground labs, "legit" is not a real category. Using a UGL's site or whatever an AI makes up tells you just as little as tasting a peptide vial to figure out whether it works.

Have ChatGPT run that same analysis on every other vendor. While you're at it, you might as well ask for each company's D&B rating, C-suite, market cap, and charitable giving.

Once more, the root issue is a basic (and troubling) failure to grasp who these "companies" actually are and how they function.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

ZippityDooDah said:

Gr33dyOctopus said:

Lol, I came across them listed among the vendors, traced their trail, and at first glance it seems above board. But unlike Zippity, I put a lot of trust in my Ai for "certain" matters, and it exposed just how messed up this company is.

It would've been amusing if they turned out to be a real Chinese manufacturer — there's got to be at least 1 or 2 out there, since pure product does circulate in the gray market, and science can be tough..

But turns out it's not these f***ers

The term underground labs exists precisely because of what they are. Acting like a website or an AI report can establish product purity is strange.

When it comes to underground labs, "legit" is not a real category. Using a UGL's site or whatever an AI makes up tells you just as little as tasting a peptide vial to figure out whether it works.

Have ChatGPT run that same analysis on every other vendor. While you're at it, you might as well ask for each company's D&B rating, C-suite, market cap, and charitable giving.

Once more, the root issue is a basic (and troubling) failure to grasp who these "companies" actually are and how they function.

Are you telling me every Chinese manufacturer of this stuff operates out of a garage or an underground bunker, and none of them have reasonably modern facilities, costly equipment, or anything close to genuine clean room standards? If that's true, I had no idea. I assumed there were at least a few producers out there with decent reputations, but it sounds like that isn't the case?

What makes it strange to ask about that? And yeah, the ai dug up some public records on that company and flat out labeled it a scam. That saved me the trouble of researching it myself. I just figure somebody somewhere must be doing things properly, and for a moment I thought maybe this company was one of them. Lol clearly I was wrong

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

I'm definitely a newcomer to all of this, and I apologize if it seems that way?

Anyway, lmfao, as I kept browsing the site, I noticed the news section has a pretty weak effort at news — an article from 2022, plus a few from 2016, apparently trying to give the impression they've been established for ages!! Still poking around in there having a look

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Honestly, how could every bit of this possibly be fabricated?!?!?

 

[Labcat]

[[Q1]] Still, whether or not AI was involved, there's no way that facility belongs to them; my impression is that what goes on over there is equally or even more gray for them

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Which actual professional labs run their own domain?!?!?

Labcat said:

[[Q1]] Still, whether or not AI was involved, there's no way that facility belongs to them; my impression is that what goes on over there is equally or even more gray for them

Yeah, no question about it — go look at how they list their contact details

I'm dying!!!!!!

 

[Labcat]

Gr33dyOctopus said:

Which actual professional labs run their own domain?!?!?

Labcat said:

[[Q1]] Still, whether or not AI was involved, there's no way that facility belongs to them; my impression is that what goes on over there is equally or even more gray for them

Yeah, no question about it — go look at how they list their contact details

I'm dying!!!!!!

The spelling of Wan chai may be incorrect.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Gr33dyOctopus said:

ZippityDooDah said:

Gr33dyOctopus said:

Lol, I came across them listed among the vendors, traced their trail, and at first glance it seems above board. But unlike Zippity, I put a lot of trust in my Ai for "certain" matters, and it exposed just how messed up this company is.

It would've been amusing if they turned out to be a real Chinese manufacturer — there's got to be at least 1 or 2 out there, since pure product does circulate in the gray market, and science can be tough..

But turns out it's not these f***ers

The term underground labs exists precisely because of what they are. Acting like a website or an AI report can establish product purity is strange.

When it comes to underground labs, "legit" is not a real category. Using a UGL's site or whatever an AI makes up tells you just as little as tasting a peptide vial to figure out whether it works.

Have ChatGPT run that same analysis on every other vendor. While you're at it, you might as well ask for each company's D&B rating, C-suite, market cap, and charitable giving.

Once more, the root issue is a basic (and troubling) failure to grasp who these "companies" actually are and how they function.

Are you telling me every Chinese manufacturer of this stuff operates out of a garage or an underground bunker, and none of them have reasonably modern facilities, costly equipment, or anything close to genuine clean room standards? If that's true, I had no idea. I assumed there were at least a few producers out there with decent reputations, but it sounds like that isn't the case?

What makes it strange to ask about that? And yeah, the ai dug up some public records on that company and flat out labeled it a scam. That saved me the trouble of researching it myself. I just figure somebody somewhere must be doing things properly, and for a moment I thought maybe this company was one of them. Lol clearly I was wrong

Nope, what I mean is that not a single one of the sources that you (or that AI buddy of yours) will ever come across, hear about, or buy from shows up on the Shanghai Stock Exchange — no board of directors, no mission statement, no annual picnic, no public relations office. The fact that this even needs saying is troubling.

Go through this set of words, again, and again, and again, until it finally clicks and you get it:

UNDERGROUND

FRONT

FAÇADE

BLACK MARKET

STRAW

SHELL

ILLICIT

RACKET

CARTEL

Gr33dyOctopus said:

ZippityDooDah said:

Gr33dyOctopus said:

Lol, I came across them listed among the vendors, traced their trail, and at first glance it seems above board. But unlike Zippity, I put a lot of trust in my Ai for "certain" matters, and it exposed just how messed up this company is.

It would've been amusing if they turned out to be a real Chinese manufacturer — there's got to be at least 1 or 2 out there, since pure product does circulate in the gray market, and science can be tough..

But turns out it's not these f***ers

The term underground labs exists precisely because of what they are. Acting like a website or an AI report can establish product purity is strange.

When it comes to underground labs, "legit" is not a real category. Using a UGL's site or whatever an AI makes up tells you just as little as tasting a peptide vial to figure out whether it works.

Have ChatGPT run that same analysis on every other vendor. While you're at it, you might as well ask for each company's D&B rating, C-suite, market cap, and charitable giving.

Once more, the root issue is a basic (and troubling) failure to grasp who these "companies" actually are and how they function.

Are you telling me every Chinese manufacturer of this stuff operates out of a garage or an underground bunker, and none of them have reasonably modern facilities, costly equipment, or anything close to genuine clean room standards? If that's true, I had no idea. I assumed there were at least a few producers out there with decent reputations, but it sounds like that isn't the case?

What makes it strange to ask about that? And yeah, the ai dug up some public records on that company and flat out labeled it a scam. That saved me the trouble of researching it myself. I just figure somebody somewhere must be doing things properly, and for a moment I thought maybe this company was one of them. Lol clearly I was wrong

The reason is that it broadcasts (signals) a total absence of comprehension about the sphere you're buying from, it's deeply flawed, and it's not the sort of beliefs or expectations we wish to encourage in this place. Claiming that anybody (AI included) can simply search the worldwide web for any of these sellers by name and obtain any kind of precise information or evaluation is stupid and gullible.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

That previous reply is what finally clicked for me.

UNDERGROUND

FRONT

FAÇADE

BLACK MARKET

STRAW

SHELL

ILLICIT

RACKET

CARTEL

Understood. I'm not looking to put out wrong information, so should I remove this thread, or keep it visible so it can help other people? Sorry — I can be slow to catch on and I've had a pretty naive view of things. I really do value this site (from what I can tell, there's nothing else quite like it) and I'm not trying to make things hard.

 

[randompersonrandom]

ZippityDooDah said:

Gr33dyOctopus said:

Lol, I came across them listed among the vendors, traced their trail, and at first glance it seems above board. But unlike Zippity, I put a lot of trust in my Ai for "certain" matters, and it exposed just how messed up this company is.

It would've been amusing if they turned out to be a real Chinese manufacturer — there's got to be at least 1 or 2 out there, since pure product does circulate in the gray market, and science can be tough..

But turns out it's not these f***ers

The term underground labs exists precisely because of what they are. Acting like a website or an AI report can establish product purity is strange.

When it comes to underground labs, "legit" is not a real category. Using a UGL's site or whatever an AI makes up tells you just as little as tasting a peptide vial to figure out whether it works.

Have ChatGPT run that same analysis on every other vendor. While you're at it, you might as well ask for each company's D&B rating, C-suite, market cap, and charitable giving.

Once more, the root issue is a basic (and troubling) failure to grasp who these "companies" actually are and how they function.

Such nerve. Back in October, GYC ran a Discord raffle handing out a handful of kits of... whatever it was. If that doesn't count as charity, I'm at a loss for what does!

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

ZippityDooDah said:

Gr33dyOctopus said:

Lol, I came across them listed among the vendors, traced their trail, and at first glance it seems above board. But unlike Zippity, I put a lot of trust in my Ai for "certain" matters, and it exposed just how messed up this company is.

It would've been amusing if they turned out to be a real Chinese manufacturer — there's got to be at least 1 or 2 out there, since pure product does circulate in the gray market, and science can be tough..

But turns out it's not these f***ers

The term underground labs exists precisely because of what they are. Acting like a website or an AI report can establish product purity is strange.

When it comes to underground labs, "legit" is not a real category. Using a UGL's site or whatever an AI makes up tells you just as little as tasting a peptide vial to figure out whether it works.

Have ChatGPT run that same analysis on every other vendor. While you're at it, you might as well ask for each company's D&B rating, C-suite, market cap, and charitable giving.

Once more, the root issue is a basic (and troubling) failure to grasp who these "companies" actually are and how they function.

When it comes to these labs, “dirty Chinese basement” is the term I like to use