Labcat take a look at this :) this supplier says it's a manufacturer, with a site and lab details.

So the real makers of these peptides are just a rotating cast of labs that appear and disappear? None of these vendors buy from a single big supplier?
 
high-tide said:

So the real makers of these peptides are just a rotating cast of labs that appear and disappear? None of these vendors buy from a single big supplier?
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A few people guess that only 2 or 3 real sources exist. That is tough to confirm, and whether things shift around is anyone’s guess.
 
high-tide said:

So the real makers of these peptides are just a rotating cast of labs that appear and disappear? None of these vendors buy from a single big supplier?
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Pretty much any seller who also claims to be the actual maker tends to back that up with a lot of dubious details and photos.
 
Labcat said:

high-tide said:

So the real makers of these peptides are just a rotating cast of labs that appear and disappear? None of these vendors buy from a single big supplier?
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A few people guess that only 2 or 3 real sources exist. That is tough to confirm, and whether things shift around is anyone’s guess.
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Oh no! There aren't just 2 or 3 — it's closer to 4 or 5, and they shift depending on time, incentives, and profits. I'm serious: goods go missing from plenty of trucks, yet the payoffs still need to be made.
 
Labcat said:

high-tide said:

So the real makers of these peptides are just a rotating cast of labs that appear and disappear? None of these vendors buy from a single big supplier?
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A few people guess that only 2 or 3 real sources exist. That is tough to confirm, and whether things shift around is anyone’s guess.
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That matches my expectation. Just like any private-label product, the number of real manufacturers is limited
 
Funny timing — I'd literally just been on E.L.'s investor relations page. After that I went and searched Google for whether they run a plant in China. Turns out they do. Not only that, it was set up specifically to produce particular diabetes medications and other related conditions. Address and all. So my hunch is, someone's walking product out in their lunchbox.
 
FRMN01 said:

If they're a real established business, there ought to be some trace of them on Alibaba or Made-in-China. I couldn't find anything.
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lol I don't agree. What method would you use to verify any grey market item coming out of China? That's simply not how this business operates.
 
The way this works is roughly:

Several Chinese producers supply the vendors present on here. Indeed, those vendors share the same producers, and essentially we are sending Janoshik vials that come from one and the same maker.

You won't find these as registered companies through some absurd thing such as a website or a social media platform.

What happens is that manufacturers sell to resellers, and resellers ship to you. You genuinely have no real way of knowing where these products were actually made.

China is nothing like the west. This is an unregulated industry, buckle up and also keep an open mind. You will never know all the details of where it's from, how it was produced, what lab was used, what the tech's name is, etc.
 
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