GHK-CU side effects?

Since we're talking about GHK-Cu, an interesting topic popped up in my email today. This is chat/discussion with Anela talking about her protocols. She is well known as the creator of the Anela protocol for GHK-Cu. Here is the link. https://tinyurl.com/mpwmt98w

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Bhappy$ said:


I’m curious what your plan going forward with Klow will be. I have a kit I’m sitting on and waiting to take after I finish the Wolverine blend I’m taking for tennis elbow. Wondering if I should get more kits as well. Thanks

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Was there a reason you didn't start with KLOW since it includes the same peps in Wolverine Stack?
 
Clavicular's Hammer said:


I was doing 3mg morning and night for weeks with zero negatives

Down to one a day

My skin is smooth and shiny. Started adding glycine and collagen to support the goals here. Nothing on the hair front yet

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6mg daily??? 😱 For how long? How did you come with 6mg? Did you see major differences when using 6mg than 0,5-1-2?
 
bodcat said:


Was there a reason you didn't start with KLOW since it includes the same peps in Wolverine Stack?

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At the time, the only thing I knew of was Reta. When I mentioned to my guy I was starting therapy for tennis elbow, he suggested the Wolverine stack. I had tennis elbow in both arms. After the initial evaluation of my arms, the OT told me the healing will be at least a year of therapy. That was 5/2026. He told me last week I should be good for regular training at the gym in a month and dropped my twice-a-week therapy to once a week. I went down the peptide rabbit hole a few months ago and started getting my own stuff way cheaper and got some Klow. I wanted to wait to hit the gym before I started the Klow.
 
Bhappy$ said:


At the time, the only thing I knew of was Reta. When I mentioned to my guy I was starting therapy for tennis elbow, he suggested the Wolverine stack. I had tennis elbow in both arms. After the initial evaluation of my arms, the OT told me the healing will be at least a year of therapy. That was 5/2026. He told me last week I should be good for regular training at the gym in a month and dropped my twice-a-week therapy to once a week. I went down the peptide rabbit hole a few months ago and started getting my own stuff way cheaper and got some Klow. I wanted to wait to hit the gym before I started the Klow.

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I've done blends like wolverine where I had a reconned vial and ran it out before reconning a new vial like KLOW....if that is what you mean... 👍
 
Blueeyedme said:


Since we're talking about GHK-Cu, an interesting topic popped up in my email today. This is chat/discussion with Anela talking about her protocols. She is well known as the creator of the Anela protocol for GHK-Cu. Here is the link. https://tinyurl.com/mpwmt98w

Mods: Of course, please remove if not appropriate for this space.

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I wouldn’t mind reading more about her protocols.

Flash-BCR said:


I've done blends like wolverine where I had a reconned vial and ran it out before reconning a new vial like KLOW....if that is what you mean... 👍

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I wanted to finish out the last vial of Wolverine blend I had since I felt it was working.
 
Slaine said:


Yeah short life but copper can build up.

Thnx for the answer !

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Just so that everyone is aware there has been zero signs of copper toxicity from Ghk-cu in anyone.

6mg of Ghk-cu, which is maybe 1.2mg copper. Even if all of the copper entered my system freely it would still be far below the upper recommended limit of 10mg of copper in a day.

But this copper isn’t free, it’s actually a chelated complex, bound to the GHK which provides a buffering effect from it building in the body.

You’d have far more likelihood of getting too much free copper by eating liver every day.
 
Clavicular's Hammer said:


Just so that everyone is aware there has been zero signs of copper toxicity from Ghk-cu in anyone.

6mg of Ghk-cu, which is maybe 1.2mg copper. Even if all of the copper entered my system freely it would still be far below the upper recommended limit of 10mg of copper in a day.

But this copper isn’t free, it’s actually a chelated complex, bound to the GHK which provides a buffering effect from it building in the body.

You’d have far more likelihood of getting too much free copper by eating liver every day.

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I've taken to running 3mg daily. There's no need to cycle GHK-cu from the latest research I've come across.

Same for semax and selank, apparently these are fine to be run indefinitely as well.
 
tendency said:


I've taken to running 3mg daily. There's no need to cycle GHK-cu from the latest research I've come across.

Same for semax and selank, apparently these are fine to be run indefinitely as well.

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The Semax protocols I've seen include a washout period, usually of at least two weeks, and recommend a cycle of no more that 4 weeks of continuous usage. The potential to overload BDNF receptors is real, going beyond that.
 
Chili777 said:


The Semax protocols I've seen include a washout period, usually of at least two weeks, and recommend a cycle of no more that 4 weeks of continuous usage. The potential to overload BDNF receptors is real, going beyond that.

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We'll have to disagree on that one chili. There's a internal medicine doc - Kevin Joseph (he's got a number of good YT work and also a nice e-book) - that's been using 20-30 peps in clinical practice for a number of years, including semax/selank, and his experience is that overloading of the BDNF pathways is false and these are safe to run indefinitely. He has not experienced downregulation etc. in his patients.

Apparently they're also widely used long term in Russia.

Virtually all the peptide protocols recommend cycling, however this largely seems to simply be based upon an abundance of caution and hearsay, I'm no longer convinced it's necessary at least for a percentage of them.
 
tendency said:


We'll have to disagree on that one chili. There's a internal medicine doc - Kevin Joseph (he's got a number of good YT work and also a nice e-book) - that's been using 20-30 peps in clinical practice for a number of years, including semax/selank, and his experience is that overloading of the BDNF pathways is false and these are safe to run indefinitely. He has not experienced downregulation etc. in his patients.

Apparently they're also widely used long term in Russia.

Virtually all the peptide protocols recommend cycling, however this largely seems to simply be based upon an abundance of caution and hearsay, I'm no longer convinced it's necessary at least for a percentage of them.

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I haven't seen that anywhere in my research. From Russian medical clinics:

In Russian clinical practice, Semax is typically prescribed for short-term courses ranging from 5 to 14 days.

Acute Stroke Recovery: Protocols often utilize doses of 12–18 mg/day for 5 to 10 days within the first 24 hours of an ischemic event.

Cognitive Disorders & Optic Nerve Disease: Standard treatments generally last 10 to 14 days, with some pediatric or minimal brain dysfunction cases extending up to 30 days.

Repeat Cycles: If necessary, treatment may be extended or repeated after a rest period of 1 to 3 months.

Note: Russian clinical applications typically involve courses ranging from 10 to 30 days. These treatment windows emerged from extensive trials involving thousands of stroke patients, individuals with cognitive impairment, and those recovering from brain injuries. The protocols balance therapeutic effect against the need for neurotrophin receptor systems to maintain sensitivity.

Users seeking year-round cognitive support often employ cycling patterns that alternate active periods with rest intervals. A popular approach involves 6 weeks of daily administration followed by 2 weeks off, repeated throughout the year. For cognitive enhancement purposes outside clinical settings, cycle length considerations become even more relevant. Without the acute pathology present in stroke patients, healthy individuals need to balance ongoing cognitive benefits against the potential for receptor adaptation over time.

I prefer a conservative approach, but it appears even Russian enthusiasts acknowledge the receptor issue, even in long term cycles.
 
Clavicular's Hammer said:


Just so that everyone is aware there has been zero signs of copper toxicity from Ghk-cu in anyone.

6mg of Ghk-cu, which is maybe 1.2mg copper. Even if all of the copper entered my system freely it would still be far below the upper recommended limit of 10mg of copper in a day.

But this copper isn’t free, it’s actually a chelated complex, bound to the GHK which provides a buffering effect from it building in the body.

You’d have far more likelihood of getting too much free copper by eating liver every day.

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Great info, thank you! Do you take supplement zinc?
 
Slaine said:


Great info, thank you! Do you take supplement zinc?

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I´ve started last week with 1MG GHK-CU and i take also 15MG Zinc daily. Also i drink daily 10G of Kollagen Powder to optimize the GHK-CU Effect for the Skin. But i dont know if it works or helps additionally to the regular GHK-CU Pin.
 
MisterM. said:


I´ve started last week with 1MG GHK-CU and i take also 15MG Zinc daily. Also i drink daily 10G of Kollagen Powder to optimize the GHK-CU Effect for the Skin. But i dont know if it works or helps additionally to the regular GHK-CU Pin.

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If you want to figure out the benefits of injection and oral administration, try doing dosing one for ~3 months at your dosage and then start the other one.
 
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