“You feel safe injecting random Chinese substances into your body?”

QueenMuntha said:

BNLFL said:

birdwhacker said:

I grabbed a syringe that my friend and I had already reused between us 2 or 3 times. Its needle was twisted like a corkscrew. I was trying to guide it into a vein in my arm so I could get the heroin and meth that was inside. We ran bottled water through the cotton head of a Q tip and heated it with a lighter. I couldn't find the vein. I must have dug around for 5 minutes.

These days I'm in better health than at any other point in my life. I'm thankful that SubQ shots don't bring that memory back.

Brandon556 said:

Compared to the covid vaccine, it's safer. Those who criticize us for taking peptides are the very ones who gladly lined up for a hastily developed vaccine again and again, and even believe everyone should be required to get it
Safer by an order of magnitude. After my second pfizer shot I got a pulmonary embolism. Symptoms began roughly 2 days following the second injection. I was in the hospital for 5 days, nearly died, and permanently lost lung capacity.

They keep mailing me bills. I believe the total is now $19,000.

At a follow up to get blood thinners, I forgot to bring the paperwork. I made the mistake of telling that doctor I believed the covid vaccine had caused it. Immediately he said he would not prescribe blood thinners and required proof of an embolism. He wouldn't let me use my phone or let me call the office myself for the records. His office was 3 hours from home and I had no car. He told me to take Aspirin instead. I asked him "What does Aspirin do to the blood?" He said my history of bipolar disorder (I always tell new doctors about my mental health and substance abuse history) must be making me act irrationally, and suggested I calm down.

Banned from Facebook and every subreddit except /r/conspiracy for trying to discuss it. Do you know how embarrassing and humiliating that is? Having to talk about my medical history on /r/conspiracy? It turns out I wasn't the only one to get an embolism or DVT after the shot.

They claim the disease itself must have caused it, that I must have been infected when I got the shot. According to PMC11399239, the indidence rate of clotting following second administration of the Pfizer shot was only what, 1.33? Only 33% above baseline. Guess I was just unlucky. Every time I've been sick with covid since then I never got a clot, even though the first vaccine was only supposed to retain efficacy for a few months. I don't buy it.

I shudder to think what could have happened had I not been taking vitamin D, Zinc, NAC, quercetin, iodine, and fish oil religiously for months afterwards. Or had my mom not been able to get samples of the aftercare blood thinner from one of her offices.
To hell with every one of them and their worthless vaccines. I turn down all of it — flu shots, the shingles crap, everything.
Nope—I'll take every single vaccine there is.
Wait, who exactly are you trying to OFF in such a hurry?
 
<smoking cigarettes with vaccinated friends after eating taco bell and mystery pills at a party>

"Hell yeah let's get baked after this"

<Chinese HGH>

"You don't even know where it came from dude"
 
For years, I steered clear of THE vaccine, and that held until 2024, when Immigration and Customs required it. At that point I had no choice but to get Faucieed. Back in high school, I was preparing for the medical entrance exams with the goal of attending medical school. After I was selected for both tracks, I made the foolish call to go into engineering. One of my classmates, though, did continue on and became a doctor at a hospital in Paris. When a patient on his ward died following the vaccine, he performed an autopsy to protect himself. He lost his job, and these days he works in India.
 
BNLFL said:

FarmgirlRebel said:

BNLFL said:

birdwhacker said:

I grabbed a syringe that my friend and I had already reused between us 2 or 3 times. Its needle was twisted like a corkscrew. I was trying to guide it into a vein in my arm so I could get the heroin and meth that was inside. We ran bottled water through the cotton head of a Q tip and heated it with a lighter. I couldn't find the vein. I must have dug around for 5 minutes.

These days I'm in better health than at any other point in my life. I'm thankful that SubQ shots don't bring that memory back.

Brandon556 said:

Compared to the covid vaccine, it's safer. Those who criticize us for taking peptides are the very ones who gladly lined up for a hastily developed vaccine again and again, and even believe everyone should be required to get it
Safer by an order of magnitude. After my second pfizer shot I got a pulmonary embolism. Symptoms began roughly 2 days following the second injection. I was in the hospital for 5 days, nearly died, and permanently lost lung capacity.

They keep mailing me bills. I believe the total is now $19,000.

At a follow up to get blood thinners, I forgot to bring the paperwork. I made the mistake of telling that doctor I believed the covid vaccine had caused it. Immediately he said he would not prescribe blood thinners and required proof of an embolism. He wouldn't let me use my phone or let me call the office myself for the records. His office was 3 hours from home and I had no car. He told me to take Aspirin instead. I asked him "What does Aspirin do to the blood?" He said my history of bipolar disorder (I always tell new doctors about my mental health and substance abuse history) must be making me act irrationally, and suggested I calm down.

Banned from Facebook and every subreddit except /r/conspiracy for trying to discuss it. Do you know how embarrassing and humiliating that is? Having to talk about my medical history on /r/conspiracy? It turns out I wasn't the only one to get an embolism or DVT after the shot.

They claim the disease itself must have caused it, that I must have been infected when I got the shot. According to PMC11399239, the indidence rate of clotting following second administration of the Pfizer shot was only what, 1.33? Only 33% above baseline. Guess I was just unlucky. Every time I've been sick with covid since then I never got a clot, even though the first vaccine was only supposed to retain efficacy for a few months. I don't buy it.

I shudder to think what could have happened had I not been taking vitamin D, Zinc, NAC, quercetin, iodine, and fish oil religiously for months afterwards. Or had my mom not been able to get samples of the aftercare blood thinner from one of her offices.
To hell with every one of them and their worthless vaccines. I turn down all of it — flu shots, the shingles crap, everything.
I'm completely on the same page as you...the tales I have are endless. While the pandemic was in full swing and the shots were first being distributed, I was employed at a 911 center....unbelievable!
My eldest works as a paramedic, and he's got a few tales to tell. He and his wife both decided against getting any shots.
Yeah, that's my situation too. It's not that I was dead set against them—I just wanted to be careful given how new the technology was ...but then the rollout happened. The number of ambulance calls we got in a single day was off the charts...completely insane...after that my sister-in-law, then a co-worker...I'm firmly out.
 
Smiter said:

For years, I steered clear of THE vaccine, and that held until 2024, when Immigration and Customs required it. At that point I had no choice but to get Faucieed. Back in high school, I was preparing for the medical entrance exams with the goal of attending medical school. After I was selected for both tracks, I made the foolish call to go into engineering. One of my classmates, though, did continue on and became a doctor at a hospital in Paris. When a patient on his ward died following the vaccine, he performed an autopsy to protect himself. He lost his job, and these days he works in India.
Funny thing is, I'm in the Bay Area, and skipping the vaccine was super uncommon around here. No way my kids were going to get it, though. At school one day, the teacher told everyone to put their hand up if they'd had the vaccine. Out of everyone, my oldest was the only kid whose hand stayed down. So I asked him what that felt like. "Dad, I was like fuck you, made me glad I didn't get it, like I'm going to be pressured into getting it, fuck that". I smiled and told him "son, Apple don't fall far from tree, love you".

Had to edit. Hard typing on elliptical.
 
birdwhacker said:

FarmgirlRebel said:

birdwhacker said:

I grabbed a syringe that my friend and I had already reused between us 2 or 3 times. Its needle was twisted like a corkscrew. I was trying to guide it into a vein in my arm so I could get the heroin and meth that was inside. We ran bottled water through the cotton head of a Q tip and heated it with a lighter. I couldn't find the vein. I must have dug around for 5 minutes.

These days I'm in better health than at any other point in my life. I'm thankful that SubQ shots don't bring that memory back.

Brandon556 said:

Compared to the covid vaccine, it's safer. Those who criticize us for taking peptides are the very ones who gladly lined up for a hastily developed vaccine again and again, and even believe everyone should be required to get it
Safer by an order of magnitude. After my second pfizer shot I got a pulmonary embolism. Symptoms began roughly 2 days following the second injection. I was in the hospital for 5 days, nearly died, and permanently lost lung capacity.

They keep mailing me bills. I believe the total is now $19,000.

At a follow up to get blood thinners, I forgot to bring the paperwork. I made the mistake of telling that doctor I believed the covid vaccine had caused it. Immediately he said he would not prescribe blood thinners and required proof of an embolism. He wouldn't let me use my phone or let me call the office myself for the records. His office was 3 hours from home and I had no car. He told me to take Aspirin instead. I asked him "What does Aspirin do to the blood?" He said my history of bipolar disorder (I always tell new doctors about my mental health and substance abuse history) must be making me act irrationally, and suggested I calm down.

Banned from Facebook and every subreddit except /r/conspiracy for trying to discuss it. Do you know how embarrassing and humiliating that is? Having to talk about my medical history on /r/conspiracy? It turns out I wasn't the only one to get an embolism or DVT after the shot.

They claim the disease itself must have caused it, that I must have been infected when I got the shot. According to PMC11399239, the indidence rate of clotting following second administration of the Pfizer shot was only what, 1.33? Only 33% above baseline. Guess I was just unlucky. Every time I've been sick with covid since then I never got a clot, even though the first vaccine was only supposed to retain efficacy for a few months. I don't buy it.

I shudder to think what could have happened had I not been taking vitamin D, Zinc, NAC, quercetin, iodine, and fish oil religiously for months afterwards. Or had my mom not been able to get samples of the aftercare blood thinner from one of her offices.
My sister in law went through the same thing — a full blown PE hit her 8 hours after the injection, and unfortunately she passed away.

A co worker of mine, 38 yrs old, on the SWAT team, in fantastic shape, was found dead in his bed during a family vacation just after his second...his heart was inflammd with water around it...very scary.

It's good to hear that most people's reactions weren't that bad, but yes, the gaslighting toward the injured is ridiculous.

So glad you are here to tell you story.
Good lord, that sounds awful. If I hadn't gotten to a hospital when I did, that could've been my story too. Or if the physicians had kept jerking me around for 3 more hours — and naturally, that's exactly what they did during the initial 3.

The pain made it impossible to lie down inside the MRI. They started with an antipsychotic shot. Next came a benzodiazepine injection. Then fentanyl. Every time, they'd tell me to lie back, and every time I couldn't manage it. Eventually they administered ketamine. I shot up out of the chair — the doctor was not pleased — pushed his hands away, and scrambled up into the machine as if it were a cockpit. And wow, was that morphine a good time for the following week!

Compared to that, it sounds like I had it pretty easy.

FarmgirlRebel said:

birdwhacker said:

I grabbed a syringe that my friend and I had already reused between us 2 or 3 times. Its needle was twisted like a corkscrew. I was trying to guide it into a vein in my arm so I could get the heroin and meth that was inside. We ran bottled water through the cotton head of a Q tip and heated it with a lighter. I couldn't find the vein. I must have dug around for 5 minutes.

These days I'm in better health than at any other point in my life. I'm thankful that SubQ shots don't bring that memory back.

Brandon556 said:

Compared to the covid vaccine, it's safer. Those who criticize us for taking peptides are the very ones who gladly lined up for a hastily developed vaccine again and again, and even believe everyone should be required to get it
Safer by an order of magnitude. After my second pfizer shot I got a pulmonary embolism. Symptoms began roughly 2 days following the second injection. I was in the hospital for 5 days, nearly died, and permanently lost lung capacity.

They keep mailing me bills. I believe the total is now $19,000.

At a follow up to get blood thinners, I forgot to bring the paperwork. I made the mistake of telling that doctor I believed the covid vaccine had caused it. Immediately he said he would not prescribe blood thinners and required proof of an embolism. He wouldn't let me use my phone or let me call the office myself for the records. His office was 3 hours from home and I had no car. He told me to take Aspirin instead. I asked him "What does Aspirin do to the blood?" He said my history of bipolar disorder (I always tell new doctors about my mental health and substance abuse history) must be making me act irrationally, and suggested I calm down.

Banned from Facebook and every subreddit except /r/conspiracy for trying to discuss it. Do you know how embarrassing and humiliating that is? Having to talk about my medical history on /r/conspiracy? It turns out I wasn't the only one to get an embolism or DVT after the shot.

They claim the disease itself must have caused it, that I must have been infected when I got the shot. According to PMC11399239, the indidence rate of clotting following second administration of the Pfizer shot was only what, 1.33? Only 33% above baseline. Guess I was just unlucky. Every time I've been sick with covid since then I never got a clot, even though the first vaccine was only supposed to retain efficacy for a few months. I don't buy it.

I shudder to think what could have happened had I not been taking vitamin D, Zinc, NAC, quercetin, iodine, and fish oil religiously for months afterwards. Or had my mom not been able to get samples of the aftercare blood thinner from one of her offices.
My sister in law went through the same thing — a full blown PE hit her 8 hours after the injection, and unfortunately she passed away.

A co worker of mine, 38 yrs old, on the SWAT team, in fantastic shape, was found dead in his bed during a family vacation just after his second...his heart was inflammd with water around it...very scary.

It's good to hear that most people's reactions weren't that bad, but yes, the gaslighting toward the injured is ridiculous.

So glad you are here to tell you story.
Incredible. My heart's been bad since I was young, and luckily the vaccination didn't make it any worse. I figure all the nattokinase and other nonsense I used for aftercare must have done some good.
Choosing natto was a wise decision! Good thing you made it through to share your experience!
 
Smiter said:

QueenMuntha said:

BNLFL said:

birdwhacker said:

I grabbed a syringe that my friend and I had already reused between us 2 or 3 times. Its needle was twisted like a corkscrew. I was trying to guide it into a vein in my arm so I could get the heroin and meth that was inside. We ran bottled water through the cotton head of a Q tip and heated it with a lighter. I couldn't find the vein. I must have dug around for 5 minutes.

These days I'm in better health than at any other point in my life. I'm thankful that SubQ shots don't bring that memory back.

Brandon556 said:

Compared to the covid vaccine, it's safer. Those who criticize us for taking peptides are the very ones who gladly lined up for a hastily developed vaccine again and again, and even believe everyone should be required to get it
Safer by an order of magnitude. After my second pfizer shot I got a pulmonary embolism. Symptoms began roughly 2 days following the second injection. I was in the hospital for 5 days, nearly died, and permanently lost lung capacity.

They keep mailing me bills. I believe the total is now $19,000.

At a follow up to get blood thinners, I forgot to bring the paperwork. I made the mistake of telling that doctor I believed the covid vaccine had caused it. Immediately he said he would not prescribe blood thinners and required proof of an embolism. He wouldn't let me use my phone or let me call the office myself for the records. His office was 3 hours from home and I had no car. He told me to take Aspirin instead. I asked him "What does Aspirin do to the blood?" He said my history of bipolar disorder (I always tell new doctors about my mental health and substance abuse history) must be making me act irrationally, and suggested I calm down.

Banned from Facebook and every subreddit except /r/conspiracy for trying to discuss it. Do you know how embarrassing and humiliating that is? Having to talk about my medical history on /r/conspiracy? It turns out I wasn't the only one to get an embolism or DVT after the shot.

They claim the disease itself must have caused it, that I must have been infected when I got the shot. According to PMC11399239, the indidence rate of clotting following second administration of the Pfizer shot was only what, 1.33? Only 33% above baseline. Guess I was just unlucky. Every time I've been sick with covid since then I never got a clot, even though the first vaccine was only supposed to retain efficacy for a few months. I don't buy it.

I shudder to think what could have happened had I not been taking vitamin D, Zinc, NAC, quercetin, iodine, and fish oil religiously for months afterwards. Or had my mom not been able to get samples of the aftercare blood thinner from one of her offices.
To hell with every one of them and their worthless vaccines. I turn down all of it — flu shots, the shingles crap, everything.
Nope—I'll take every single vaccine there is.
Wait, who exactly are you trying to OFF in such a hurry?
If I hadn't gotten the Covid vaccines, I'd already be gone. That's just how it is. Black, old, fat, and immunocompromised. Right — people like us were dropping first. So of course I gladly took every vaccine going.
 
Q> Which is the only major drug category whose makers are shielded from liability when harm or adverse effects occur?🤔

How many of the diseases we were vaccinated against as kids later still infected us? And which "vaccine" made people start redefining what the word vaccine even means?

The very same people who mock anything lacking clinical proof of efficacy put out a product that hadn't passed regulatory testing, then required everyone to take it — yeah, nothing sketchy about that.🙄🙄

They also spent years shutting down and shunning anyone who said the Covid virus came out of a Wuhan lab, calling them reckless conspiracy theorists. So saying a coronavirus leak happened at a place with a level 4 virology lab that specializes in coronaviruses — that's somehow illogical?
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:

Back in my younger days I drove a party bus — raves, bachelor parties, whatever you can think of. I’ve picked up and swallowed plenty of drugs I found on the floor. So putting weird Chinese stuff straight into my blood feels like an upgrade!!!
Or at least staying the same. 😂
 
How could we possibly put faith in our government once more? A solid beginning would be putting Dr. Fauci through a trial, securing a conviction, and handing down a death sentence. That would be a decent first step.

Honestly, even that is too kind a fate for such a wicked individual.
 
Rolltide61 said:

How could we possibly put faith in our government once more? A solid beginning would be putting Dr. Fauci through a trial, securing a conviction, and handing down a death sentence. That would be a decent first step.

Honestly, even that is too kind a fate for such a wicked individual.
Once more? At what point was that ever possible?

Rolltide61 said:

How could we possibly put faith in our government once more? A solid beginning would be putting Dr. Fauci through a trial, securing a conviction, and handing down a death sentence. That would be a decent first step.

Honestly, even that is too kind a fate for such a wicked individual.
That would backfire more than it would help. Picking out a single individual would leave the public too tired of solutions.
 
Plenty of folks keep saying "well it's better than...". Sort of like "its kinda dangerous but"... Honestly, if you're doing everything the smart way — checking where things come from, testing, filtering — then Chinese peptides in general are pretty darn safe, and whatever downsides might come up usually aren't that serious.

Ordering from random Tic-Toc influencers is a different situation, but when it's done right, I don't feel like its a high risk activity at all.

Sure, some of the actual peps may carry bigger risks than others, but that isn't really a Chineese sourcing issue.
 
Smiter said:

"So you'll happily swallow any sort of strange product, no clue where it came from or what it does, just because Big Industry sold you on it being manna. And you'll take prescription drugs too—probably manufactured in China as well—because some white-coated person with a low IQ who only learned by rote gave the OK. Yet when I use something to CURE a condition that the white-attired crowd would rather just manage, that's where you draw the line? Friend, I've got some bridges you might want to put money into."
IQ is a subject I've put real effort into understanding. As a measurement, it does hold up... for certain purposes.

First, let's set aside the bad information claiming that people from developing nations score unreasonably low – those assessments tend to carry cultural assumptions or depend on English comprehension, so evaluating particular groups involves a degree of nuance that was routinely overlooked before the 2000's.

In principle, Raven's matrices ought to give a reading of nearly anyone's IQ. What they actually capture, though... how that gets applied is unclear to me.

Using the test from communitypsychometrics, I've run friends, family, and myself through it. It lands within roughly ±10 points, and it usually shaves off a few points from true ability. English speakers are the only ones it works for.

The outcomes were interesting. My score landed well above average, yet two people in my circle left it far behind. One of them used to huff gasoline, and because of how he handles social situations, people often misjudge him as "a little slow". The other is a woman who gets pulled in constantly by political misinformation, fake news, MLMs, and appears unable to follow many kinds of reasoning. Neither is someone you'd single out as the smartest person present. Neither is someone who never makes mistakes.

I'm not even sure why I brought this up – I just find personality and intelligence testing fascinating, and I wish I could test more people I know personally, so I'd have a clearer sense of what scores mean and where they apply 😅

Gt3294a said:

Smiter said:

For years, I steered clear of THE vaccine, and that held until 2024, when Immigration and Customs required it. At that point I had no choice but to get Faucieed. Back in high school, I was preparing for the medical entrance exams with the goal of attending medical school. After I was selected for both tracks, I made the foolish call to go into engineering. One of my classmates, though, did continue on and became a doctor at a hospital in Paris. When a patient on his ward died following the vaccine, he performed an autopsy to protect himself. He lost his job, and these days he works in India.
Funny thing is, I'm in the Bay Area, and skipping the vaccine was super uncommon around here. No way my kids were going to get it, though. At school one day, the teacher told everyone to put their hand up if they'd had the vaccine. Out of everyone, my oldest was the only kid whose hand stayed down. So I asked him what that felt like. "Dad, I was like fuck you, made me glad I didn't get it, like I'm going to be pressured into getting it, fuck that". I smiled and told him "son, Apple don't fall far from tree, love you".

Had to edit. Hard typing on elliptical.
No need to worry – every kid in the Bay Area talks this way! 😝
 
5byfive said:

Plenty of folks keep saying "well it's better than...". Sort of like "its kinda dangerous but"... Honestly, if you're doing everything the smart way — checking where things come from, testing, filtering — then Chinese peptides in general are pretty darn safe, and whatever downsides might come up usually aren't that serious.

Ordering from random Tic-Toc influencers is a different situation, but when it's done right, I don't feel like its a high risk activity at all.

Sure, some of the actual peps may carry bigger risks than others, but that isn't really a Chineese sourcing issue.
I agree completely — that's exactly the point. When you can actually think through the risks and follow them to their logical conclusion, the very worst outcome amounts to a hospital visit for antibiotics or antihistamines — perhaps endotoxins leave you with lasting but reversible harm to some organ system?

Compare that to the worst that could happen while commuting during rush hour... or from obesity left untreated.

Smiter said:

Rolltide61 said:

How could we possibly put faith in our government once more? A solid beginning would be putting Dr. Fauci through a trial, securing a conviction, and handing down a death sentence. That would be a decent first step.

Honestly, even that is too kind a fate for such a wicked individual.
Once more? At what point was that ever possible?

Rolltide61 said:

How could we possibly put faith in our government once more? A solid beginning would be putting Dr. Fauci through a trial, securing a conviction, and handing down a death sentence. That would be a decent first step.

Honestly, even that is too kind a fate for such a wicked individual.
That would backfire more than it would help. Picking out a single individual would leave the public too tired of solutions.
Nicely put, smiter. Nobody understands that feeling more than I do, but saying it here — on the weight loss forum, of all places (and coming from them) — is a bold move. It's good that we're free to have this conversation at all, so let's not take it too far.
 
Alright, I trust everyone had a good time. I think I can say on behalf of all of us that your takes on the Covid vaccines were both eye-opening and relevant.

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