agussie
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for 30 unit shots, a 50 unit/.5ml syringe seems like the better pick. in my experience it gives better precision and a bit less waste compared to a 100 unit one. this isn't backed by testing, just what i've noticed.
Using an air lock to cut down on wasted product
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randompersonrandom
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It's pretty funny how a simple "alright, just buy a pen" can wipe out so much extreme overanalyzing.
Sure, "oh come on, quit doing that" would work too, but nobody's actually going to stop, and since I also went deep into overthinking when I first started, getting a pen is probably the more practical fix for that urge to overanalyze everything to death.
Air bubbles in your vials bothering you? Fine, get a pen.
Throwing away an entire syringe each day bugging you? Fine, get a pen.
Can't keep track of which peptide is which? Fine, get a bunch of pens in different colors.
All of this stuff getting on your nerves? Fine, get a pen.
Sure, "oh come on, quit doing that" would work too, but nobody's actually going to stop, and since I also went deep into overthinking when I first started, getting a pen is probably the more practical fix for that urge to overanalyze everything to death.
Air bubbles in your vials bothering you? Fine, get a pen.
Throwing away an entire syringe each day bugging you? Fine, get a pen.
Can't keep track of which peptide is which? Fine, get a bunch of pens in different colors.
All of this stuff getting on your nerves? Fine, get a pen.
randompersonrandom
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And yeah, I'm with FH on all of it, but in case you're still chewing on this... let's say you picked up a T-30 kit for $135 (probably less these days, though that's the price I paid back in August when I was still getting 30's), and you mixed it to 22mg/ml (that's my habit, since I began with Brello and that's the strength they use). Then the loss on the 1.6 units (and honestly, a needle that size would be a strange choice) comes to roughly 16 cents, while the 0.42 units would cost you 4 cents.
Now picture some dude charging at me, waving a syringe around, yelling "GIMMIE SIXTEEN CENTS OR I'LL INJECT A TINY AIR BUBBLE UNDER YOUR SKIN" — I'd hand over the 16 cents, pepper spray or not, because good grief, 16 cents is a small price to skip that whole scene.
skeptick
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injectionshop and underground supply are both fairly priced, ship reasonably, and get orders to you within a few days....
390120
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I placed an order with this vendor at the start of Jan, so I'm right on the edge of receiving it… fingers crossed
Bacteriostatic Water for Injection 30mL | Hospira Pfizer
Expiry dates are always current. Genuine Hospira Pfizer Bacteriostatic Water 30mL multi-dose vial. Sterile water containing 0.9% benzyl alcohol preservative, intended for diluting, dissolving, or reconstituting medications.
www.midwiferysupplies.ca
Just have to be patient a little while longer
390120
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I'm absolutely the kind of person who overthinks things to a ridiculous degree
BNLFL
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The gauge is still 31, though the length is 5/16". What amount gets wasted in that case? For my own use, I draw with .05 and 1ml BD's.
Lovedog100
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Quit pinching pennies by reaching for a 3ml syringe just because it costs nothing. Insulin syringes at 1ml are inexpensive — if peptides fit in your budget, then proper injection gear does too. Over on Amazon, you can get 25 1ml syringes with needles for $12.88. Dosing is far more precise with a 1ml syringe, and the amount of peptide trapped in the barrel is smaller, though it's minimal regardless. There are surely bigger priorities in your life.
Think about it: a 100mg box of GHK-CU runs $50, giving you 1000mg total. From that, you get 333 injections at 3mg each, which works out to 15 cents per shot. Come on — would you really gamble on injecting air to save under $0.15
Think about it: a 100mg box of GHK-CU runs $50, giving you 1000mg total. From that, you get 333 injections at 3mg each, which works out to 15 cents per shot. Come on — would you really gamble on injecting air to save under $0.15
390120
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For years I relied on 3mL syringes for TRT since I could grab them by the box, but these days I'm on 1mL ones because work hands those out for free too LOLLovedog100 said:
Quit pinching pennies by reaching for a 3ml syringe just because it costs nothing. Insulin syringes at 1ml are inexpensive — if peptides fit in your budget, then proper injection gear does too. Over on Amazon, you can get 25 1ml syringes with needles for $12.88. Dosing is far more precise with a 1ml syringe, and the amount of peptide trapped in the barrel is smaller, though it's minimal regardless. There are surely bigger priorities in your life.
Think about it: a 100mg box of GHK-CU runs $50, giving you 1000mg total. From that, you get 333 injections at 3mg each, which works out to 15 cents per shot. Come on — would you really gamble on injecting air to save under $0.15
Accuracy wasn't something I thought about much back when the volumes I injected were bigger, but once I began reconstituting with things like 3mL BAC and pushing far smaller doses, that's when it hit me
I’m going to ignore (nobody’s) the rules for a moment. Now and then I’ll transfer (filter) the peps into a cart, expel the air using the pen trick, and then treat it as a vial. I stick a label on the thing and pull from it. For the record, I’ve never been someone who injects air into a vial.390120 said:
For years I relied on 3mL syringes for TRT since I could grab them by the box, but these days I'm on 1mL ones because work hands those out for free too LOLLovedog100 said:
Quit pinching pennies by reaching for a 3ml syringe just because it costs nothing. Insulin syringes at 1ml are inexpensive — if peptides fit in your budget, then proper injection gear does too. Over on Amazon, you can get 25 1ml syringes with needles for $12.88. Dosing is far more precise with a 1ml syringe, and the amount of peptide trapped in the barrel is smaller, though it's minimal regardless. There are surely bigger priorities in your life.
Think about it: a 100mg box of GHK-CU runs $50, giving you 1000mg total. From that, you get 333 injections at 3mg each, which works out to 15 cents per shot. Come on — would you really gamble on injecting air to save under $0.15
Accuracy wasn't something I thought about much back when the volumes I injected were bigger, but once I began reconstituting with things like 3mL BAC and pushing far smaller doses, that's when it hit me
At times 2 carts are needed, like when I do this with ginseng. That arrives in those horrible glass vials that you have to snap open.
I enjoy mixing it up: syringes & vials, syringes & carts, carts & pens.
SineMissione
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I hadn't considered that injection could waste product, and the post was a good read. Still, I'm not sure whether going through all that trouble would pay off given how little you'd actually save!
Foggy-Hollow
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At 5/8ths, that works out to 0.42 or 0.26u. After that, you convert it to mg and $ based on whatever your concentration is.
For my T30 mixed at 3mL: 0.26u comes to …. 3.3 cents worth of product.
Foggy-Hollow
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390120 said:
For years I relied on 3mL syringes for TRT since I could grab them by the box, but these days I'm on 1mL ones because work hands those out for free too LOLLovedog100 said:
Quit pinching pennies by reaching for a 3ml syringe just because it costs nothing. Insulin syringes at 1ml are inexpensive — if peptides fit in your budget, then proper injection gear does too. Over on Amazon, you can get 25 1ml syringes with needles for $12.88. Dosing is far more precise with a 1ml syringe, and the amount of peptide trapped in the barrel is smaller, though it's minimal regardless. There are surely bigger priorities in your life.
Think about it: a 100mg box of GHK-CU runs $50, giving you 1000mg total. From that, you get 333 injections at 3mg each, which works out to 15 cents per shot. Come on — would you really gamble on injecting air to save under $0.15
Accuracy wasn't something I thought about much back when the volumes I injected were bigger, but once I began reconstituting with things like 3mL BAC and pushing far smaller doses, that's when it hit me
30u syringes exist as well; I reach for those whenever the dose is below 20u. Certain models even come with half-unit graduations.