That .2% figure refers to peptide that has broken down, and knowing either the mg of active peptide or the percentage degraded still leaves you in the dark about the bottle’s contents. Fillers make up nearly all of what’s there. Finding out every single component at 100% requires a separate test that costs a lot more $$$$.
Tiny amounts of something deadly in a vial — how would we know?
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That .2% figure refers to peptide that has broken down, and knowing either the mg of active peptide or the percentage degraded still leaves you in the dark about the bottle’s contents. Fillers make up nearly all of what’s there. Finding out every single component at 100% requires a separate test that costs a lot more $$$$.
Lovedog100
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I'm acquainted with a person who actually went through this. A gym bro convinced him to give Reta a shot and offloaded a 30mg vial to him. No dosing instructions were given, and no one checked whether he had any idea what he was doing. He went home and put the entire vial into his body. When I ran into him later that week, he filled me in on what happened. It had him seriously spooked, and he kept repeating, "nobody told me what to do" Then he raised his shirt, and this man in his late 40's was sporting a completely defined six pack. While showing me, he said over and over, "I don't look like this, I've never looked like this. This isn't me" So I have a firsthand account from the person who did it, plus the guy who sold it to him. Under no circumstances should anyone think taking 30mg of Reta as an initial dose, or any dose at all, is acceptable. It brought on several issues for him. Honestly, I wasn't paying that close attention while he listed some of them, because I was completely stunned that he'd gone through with it, and by what it did to his stomach.Chili777 said:
The one I still find funniest is that dude who, on his very first injection, went with 30 mg of Reta. His name will be remembered forever. He made it.FarmgirlRebel said:
Chili777 said:
Did that happen on Reddit? I ran into some crazy lady who went after me in exactly that way, insisting the whole time that her peptides were made in America, from the APIs all the way through to the finished product. Nothing I or anybody else said—no logic, no data—could get her to see it any other way, and according to her, every one of us was poisoning ourselves. Her final post, if I remember right, had reached -178.FarmgirlRebel said:
To be honest, that tiny quantity doesn't cross my mind. My approach is to buy only from suppliers with solid track records and no prior problems.
Not long ago, Novo Nordisk pulled a batch of sema pens after biologics turned up...how many people had already been injected before that recall happened?
On a forum, a woman tore into me for purchasing scary Chinese peptides, calling me reckless, yet at the same time she was cheerfully ordering Chinese peptides from a US RUO site. Go figure.
Everything we do carries some risk, I suppose the real question is where you draw the line on what's acceptable.
I ride horses. At my age, I'm aware that taking a fall from one of my horses won't be a pretty sight...even so, that's a risk I'm willing to take...perhaps I'd reconsider if I ended up in a hospital, though I doubt it.
What makes it worse is that the gym bro now uses him as a selling point. Look, it's safe, he took the whole bottle in one go and he's fine. I won't even get into the whole matter of trusting gym bros. That same guy pushed something on me that nearly turned into a disaster.
Wow. Was that six pack just the result of a week of nonstop vomiting? Maybe it's the same person, though the one I came across in a post claimed that for days every single joint in his body hurt unbearably, he stayed in bed for 3 days straight, and he went more than a week without a bowel movement. From the sound of it, a six pack wasn't part of what he got either. He also mentioned, as a defense (if you can call it that), that he had confused his Reta and Mots-C vials. I figured that was kind of believable, but who uses 30 mg of Mots-C? A 5 mg dose and I'm set to take on a bear. Gym bros.Lovedog100 said:
I'm acquainted with a person who actually went through this. A gym bro convinced him to give Reta a shot and offloaded a 30mg vial to him. No dosing instructions were given, and no one checked whether he had any idea what he was doing. He went home and put the entire vial into his body. When I ran into him later that week, he filled me in on what happened. It had him seriously spooked, and he kept repeating, "nobody told me what to do" Then he raised his shirt, and this man in his late 40's was sporting a completely defined six pack. While showing me, he said over and over, "I don't look like this, I've never looked like this. This isn't me" So I have a firsthand account from the person who did it, plus the guy who sold it to him. Under no circumstances should anyone think taking 30mg of Reta as an initial dose, or any dose at all, is acceptable. It brought on several issues for him. Honestly, I wasn't paying that close attention while he listed some of them, because I was completely stunned that he'd gone through with it, and by what it did to his stomach.Chili777 said:
The one I still find funniest is that dude who, on his very first injection, went with 30 mg of Reta. His name will be remembered forever. He made it.FarmgirlRebel said:
Chili777 said:
Did that happen on Reddit? I ran into some crazy lady who went after me in exactly that way, insisting the whole time that her peptides were made in America, from the APIs all the way through to the finished product. Nothing I or anybody else said—no logic, no data—could get her to see it any other way, and according to her, every one of us was poisoning ourselves. Her final post, if I remember right, had reached -178.FarmgirlRebel said:
To be honest, that tiny quantity doesn't cross my mind. My approach is to buy only from suppliers with solid track records and no prior problems.
Not long ago, Novo Nordisk pulled a batch of sema pens after biologics turned up...how many people had already been injected before that recall happened?
On a forum, a woman tore into me for purchasing scary Chinese peptides, calling me reckless, yet at the same time she was cheerfully ordering Chinese peptides from a US RUO site. Go figure.
Everything we do carries some risk, I suppose the real question is where you draw the line on what's acceptable.
I ride horses. At my age, I'm aware that taking a fall from one of my horses won't be a pretty sight...even so, that's a risk I'm willing to take...perhaps I'd reconsider if I ended up in a hospital, though I doubt it.
What makes it worse is that the gym bro now uses him as a selling point. Look, it's safe, he took the whole bottle in one go and he's fine. I won't even get into the whole matter of trusting gym bros. That same guy pushed something on me that nearly turned into a disaster.
Lovedog100
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Like I mentioned, I wasn't paying close attention to everything it did to him. What I do remember is that he went three or four days without eating, I think because nothing would stay down. There was pain, and I believe it was in his joints. MOTS-C wasn't something he mixed up—he was just a newbee who took an injection with no knowledge beyond what a gym bro told him to do. Several people were talking over each other, and when he raised his shirt, all of us gasped, and then everyone began firing off questions at the same time.Chili777 said:
Wow. Was that six pack just the result of a week of nonstop vomiting? Maybe it's the same person, though the one I came across in a post claimed that for days every single joint in his body hurt unbearably, he stayed in bed for 3 days straight, and he went more than a week without a bowel movement. From the sound of it, a six pack wasn't part of what he got either. He also mentioned, as a defense (if you can call it that), that he had confused his Reta and Mots-C vials. I figured that was kind of believable, but who uses 30 mg of Mots-C? A 5 mg dose and I'm set to take on a bear. Gym bros.Lovedog100 said:
I'm acquainted with a person who actually went through this. A gym bro convinced him to give Reta a shot and offloaded a 30mg vial to him. No dosing instructions were given, and no one checked whether he had any idea what he was doing. He went home and put the entire vial into his body. When I ran into him later that week, he filled me in on what happened. It had him seriously spooked, and he kept repeating, "nobody told me what to do" Then he raised his shirt, and this man in his late 40's was sporting a completely defined six pack. While showing me, he said over and over, "I don't look like this, I've never looked like this. This isn't me" So I have a firsthand account from the person who did it, plus the guy who sold it to him. Under no circumstances should anyone think taking 30mg of Reta as an initial dose, or any dose at all, is acceptable. It brought on several issues for him. Honestly, I wasn't paying that close attention while he listed some of them, because I was completely stunned that he'd gone through with it, and by what it did to his stomach.Chili777 said:
The one I still find funniest is that dude who, on his very first injection, went with 30 mg of Reta. His name will be remembered forever. He made it.FarmgirlRebel said:
Chili777 said:
Did that happen on Reddit? I ran into some crazy lady who went after me in exactly that way, insisting the whole time that her peptides were made in America, from the APIs all the way through to the finished product. Nothing I or anybody else said—no logic, no data—could get her to see it any other way, and according to her, every one of us was poisoning ourselves. Her final post, if I remember right, had reached -178.FarmgirlRebel said:
To be honest, that tiny quantity doesn't cross my mind. My approach is to buy only from suppliers with solid track records and no prior problems.
Not long ago, Novo Nordisk pulled a batch of sema pens after biologics turned up...how many people had already been injected before that recall happened?
On a forum, a woman tore into me for purchasing scary Chinese peptides, calling me reckless, yet at the same time she was cheerfully ordering Chinese peptides from a US RUO site. Go figure.
Everything we do carries some risk, I suppose the real question is where you draw the line on what's acceptable.
I ride horses. At my age, I'm aware that taking a fall from one of my horses won't be a pretty sight...even so, that's a risk I'm willing to take...perhaps I'd reconsider if I ended up in a hospital, though I doubt it.
What makes it worse is that the gym bro now uses him as a selling point. Look, it's safe, he took the whole bottle in one go and he's fine. I won't even get into the whole matter of trusting gym bros. That same guy pushed something on me that nearly turned into a disaster.