Somebody seems to have secured Reta access?

[yeddie]

The author of "The Incretins" blog, which covers GLP-related topics, shared on Bluesky that he contacted Eli Lilly regarding retatrutide prescriptions for a number of his patients.

So the Retatrutide early access program for patients seems very real. I reached out to Eli Lilly about it last week for a few patients I thought might be good candidates. They called back today for more info.

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I gave them the patients information and reasons why I thought these particular patients would be good candidates for it. They listened, agreed that the patients had hit a stall on current therapy and will review my request and get back to me! So it's really real. Updates as I get them!

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[ZippityDooDah]

4 individuals were banned due to repeatedly sharing political nonsense.

 

[birdwhacker]

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

 

[BNLFL]

ZippityDooDah said:

4 individuals were banned due to repeatedly sharing political nonsense.

Is this temporary, or is it permanent?

 

[SeaGypsy]

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

Nope, that wasn't me — though after your suggestions, magnesium is now part of my routine

 

[birdwhacker]

SeaGypsy said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

Nope, that wasn't me — though after your suggestions, magnesium is now part of my routine

LOL, from what I've seen, every person who ran into serious trouble with reta also turned down both of those xD

Glad I could be useful haha

 

[bockscar]

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

 

[Bunnyfoofoo]

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

Every single day I take magnesium glycinate along with magnesium oxide! My Reta use hasn't caused any heart problems!

 

[birdwhacker]

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

 

[sheilarae74]

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

While using reta, I haven't experienced any heart rate problems at all. It's made me curious about why this affects certain individuals but not others. The only explanation I came across suggested that individuals beginning reta at a lower BMI tend to be more prone to elevated hr compared to those with higher levels of obesity.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

BNLFL said:

ZippityDooDah said:

4 individuals were banned due to repeatedly sharing political nonsense.

Is this temporary, or is it permanent?

Indeed.

 

[HARLEYV2]

birdwhacker said:

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

Remember to stay hydrated! I can't count the number of times I halted A fib on scene using a bag of fluids.

 

[bockscar]

birdwhacker said:

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

Oh absolutely! The amount I'm eating has dropped a ton....probably 1200 or less, and a lot of days it's under 1k. I realize that isn't ideal, but it doesn't feel like I'm starving myself, and it seems like I'm eating roughly the same, just with lower cal meals. What worries me about going this route is vitamin and mineral decificits....and gall stones! LOL right now I take a One A Day Pro Edge plus calcium. My thinking is I should get my blood tested, then work on nailing down a supplement protocol. Sure, most of it will probably just come out in my urine, but if even small doses can give my body what it needs....well thats better than it not getting any of it.

I appreciate those specific recommendations because its really to get paralysis by analysis with all the online options nowadays

HARLEYV2 said:

birdwhacker said:

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

Remember to stay hydrated! I can't count the number of times I halted A fib on scene using a bag of fluids.

Possibly TMI....unless I drink at least 1.5(ish) gallon, my poops get a little hard to push out. Normally the squatty potty does its thing and pooping is no issue LOL but ive noticed on Mon/Tues after a weekend when I dont get the 1.5(ish) Friday/Sat/Sun Ill notice it in those couple days after.

Thanks for coming to my TedTalk

 

[bockscar]

ZippityDooDah said:

BNLFL said:

ZippityDooDah said:

4 individuals were banned due to repeatedly sharing political nonsense.

Is this temporary, or is it permanent?

Indeed.

Hey... could you get back to me on that PM? I figure the answer's probably no... but I'd like to confirm before I make my next move

 

[HARLEYV2]

bockscar said:


Hell yeah! Im eating drastically less....like 1200 or less, but more often under 1k. I know it's not good but I dont feel like im starving myself, and feel like im eating about the same just lower cal meals. My worry with doing this is vitamin and mineral decificits....and gall stones! LOL im taking a One A Day Pro Edge and calcium. I think I need to test my blood and then try and dial in a supplement protocol. I know I'll piss most of it out, but if I can get the body what it needs even in small doses....well thats better than it not getting any of it.

Thank you for those specific recommendations because its really to get paralysis by analysis with all the online options nowadays

Maybe TMI....if I dont drink at minimum 1.5(ish) gallon, my poops get a little hard to push out. Usually the squatty potty does its thing and pooping is no issue LOL but ive noticed on Mon/Tues after a weekend when I dont get the 1.5(ish) Friday/Sat/Sun Ill notice it in those couple days after.

Thanks for coming to my TedTalk

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Also, if you take in too much fluid, your electrolytes get flushed out.

 

[RadicalCrimson]

birdwhacker said:

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

What's the issue? I take 200mg/day myself, since I'm on statins.

 

[HARLEYV2]

RadicalCrimson said:

birdwhacker said:

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

What's the issue? I take 200mg/day myself, since I'm on statins.

When it comes to Coq10, Qunol stands head and shoulders above every other option.

 

[birdwhacker]

RadicalCrimson said:

birdwhacker said:

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

What's the issue? I take 200mg/day myself, since I'm on statins.

Qunol, Double Wood, Nutricost and quite a few other brands have been caught faking products, with magnesium being the most notable example. Take a look at the attached image: every company marked in red FAILED testing for the amount of magnesium glycinate that they failed to contain. Plenty of the brands Amazon suggests when you look up supplements are poor quality and have a reputation for lying.

A video going over the lab results for the magnesium is here:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaQ6bpDqhuw

HARLEYV2 said:

RadicalCrimson said:

birdwhacker said:

bockscar said:

birdwhacker said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

Honestly this comes down to a skill issue. It only affects those who skip all cardiac supplements.

Just wait

SeaGypsy said:

spanky2026 said:

I remain skeptical that Reta carries no meaningful heart-related risks. In the most recent trial I looked at, arrhythmias showed up, and there were also a couple of cardiac deaths among those in the test group — yet the presenter at ADA, who was paid, dismissed this as statistically "insignificant". ?! I'm not 79, but I'm still up there in years, and heart problems like these don't strike me as 'insignificant" at all.

I had the same experience — after starting Reta, my resting heart rate became erratic. Even while just sitting and watching TV, it would jump into the 140s. Since I'm in my 50's, heart issues carry real weight for me. I switched back to Tirz.

SeaGypsy, are you regularly taking magnesium or potassium?

(btw I'm completely talking out of my ass)

For my friend, what would you suggest he take? He hadn't considered this angle at all...but since he's committed long-term and isn't particularly old, coming across this gave him a real scare. Him, obviously—not me. I'm definitely not asking about myself.

Getting solid nutrition down to its fundamentals, in my view, means covering a few bases: a methylated B12 complex (igennus makes a solid one), a trace mineral complex (nutricost's version is decent), plus magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate. NOW foods has a reliable reputation. When it comes to glycinate, Doctor's Best gets my pick.

On top of that, adding a bit of extra potassium is worth doing. Psilium husk or bananas can supply it. Plenty of drink mixes out there carry a good amount, though the price has to make sense. Alternatively, no salt from the store works fine sprinkled into food or stirred into water.

Beyond that, Ubiquinol is a worthwhile add-on, particularly for heart support. Skip the Qunol brand, and to be honest, nutricost wouldn't be my choice for that one either. These days NOW foods is close to the only option I'd feel safe with, along with life extensions and a small handful of others.

What's the issue? I take 200mg/day myself, since I'm on statins.

When it comes to Coq10, Qunol stands head and shoulders above every other option.

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/1abcfzd/what_are_some_companies_we_know_have_faked_their/

 

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It's tough to accept that just 1 individual got an exception. I was under the impression that exceptions for FDA trial drugs are pretty standard. Then again, maybe that's not the case.

 

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bockscar said:

ZippityDooDah said:

BNLFL said:

ZippityDooDah said:

4 individuals were banned due to repeatedly sharing political nonsense.

Is this temporary, or is it permanent?

Indeed.

Hey... could you get back to me on that PM? I figure the answer's probably no... but I'd like to confirm before I make my next move

You know that thing cats do when they catch a skittering sound—something they might chase or just fix their eyes on—and their ears twitch like they're about to launch? I don't literally have ears doing that, but if I were a cat, that's exactly what they'd be up to.