Questionable Testing "Lab" Lab Finds Tirz, Not Reta

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According to Questionable Testing "Lab" Lab (Canada), kits labeled as Retatrutide were mislabeled and in fact hold Tirzepaitide. See whether any of these kits are in your possession. The full details are available over at "Some Lady's" ⚠️Circumventing Prohibited Links and Phrases Will Result in a BAN! ⚠️ because her articles cannot be posted in this space. Additional information will come later.
 
RascalRaccoon said:

What is the reason behind the powder being described as orange?
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That's a fair point. As far as I'm aware, 5-Amino is the only orange powder out there. Let's wait and see what the lab's results show. The identification only came through today.
 
Chili777 said:

According to Questionable Testing "Lab" Lab (Canada), kits labeled as Retatrutide were mislabeled and in fact hold Tirzepaitide. See whether any of these kits are in your possession. The full details are available over at "Some Lady's" ⚠️Circumventing Prohibited Links and Phrases Will Result in a BAN! ⚠️ because her articles cannot be posted in this space. Additional information will come later.
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What's the address for that site? A link isn't necessary, though if you happen to...
 
According to reports, 8 vials came back as tirz with black caps. Also, blue R10 and R20 are pending final results.

A separate test indicates white powder, which points more toward a mistake than mishandling of the orange powder.

It will be interesting to find out how far this goes.
 
Chili777 said:

According to Questionable Testing "Lab" Lab (Canada), kits labeled as Retatrutide were mislabeled and in fact hold Tirzepaitide. See whether any of these kits are in your possession. The full details are available over at "Some Lady's" ⚠️Circumventing Prohibited Links and Phrases Will Result in a BAN! ⚠️ because her articles cannot be posted in this space. Additional information will come later.
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And once more....
 
RascalRaccoon said:

According to reports, 8 vials came back as tirz with black caps. Also, blue R10 and R20 are pending final results.

A separate test indicates white powder, which points more toward a mistake than mishandling of the orange powder.

It will be interesting to find out how far this goes.
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I'm at the point where I want to ditch all this and just stick with creatine plus yohimbe bark extract, taken once a week.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

RascalRaccoon said:

What is the reason behind the powder being described as orange?
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A few suppliers rely on Tang as a filler....
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It turns out the label calling it an orange powder was an error, and that's getting fixed.

Tirz is also what the Da weight points to, rather than Reta. According to the MS data, the molecular weight came out to:

~4812.53 Da, which lines up with Tirzepatide

For Retatrutide, the molecular weight is lower, at about ~4731 Da.
 
Chili777 said:

Airborne Daddy said:

RascalRaccoon said:

What is the reason behind the powder being described as orange?
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A few suppliers rely on Tang as a filler....
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It turns out the label calling it an orange powder was an error, and that's getting fixed.

Tirz is also what the Da weight points to, rather than Reta. According to the MS data, the molecular weight came out to:

~4812.53 Da, which lines up with Tirzepatide

For Retatrutide, the molecular weight is lower, at about ~4731 Da.
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This is all being done on purpose as well—they're doubling their profits.... I'm just waiting for the day they ship out plain mannitol. Luckily, our disgust and skepticism keep growing every day, and so does the chance that someone or some group will test each product from each seller. GLAD WE'VE GOT SHARP PEOPLE WATCHING OUT LIKE YOU AND SO MANY OTHERS to push back against this shady ass bullshit.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

Chili777 said:

Airborne Daddy said:

RascalRaccoon said:

What is the reason behind the powder being described as orange?
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A few suppliers rely on Tang as a filler....
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It turns out the label calling it an orange powder was an error, and that's getting fixed.

Tirz is also what the Da weight points to, rather than Reta. According to the MS data, the molecular weight came out to:

~4812.53 Da, which lines up with Tirzepatide

For Retatrutide, the molecular weight is lower, at about ~4731 Da.
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This is all being done on purpose as well—they're doubling their profits.... I'm just waiting for the day they ship out plain mannitol. Luckily, our disgust and skepticism keep growing every day, and so does the chance that someone or some group will test each product from each seller. GLAD WE'VE GOT SHARP PEOPLE WATCHING OUT LIKE YOU AND SO MANY OTHERS to push back against this shady ass bullshit.
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In my view, demand has grown so quickly that suppliers simply can't handle it. As output was pushed to its limit, slip-ups have become increasingly common. Standards have slipped across the board — from endotoxins, to short fills, to peptides with the wrong labels and contamination concerns. We have to remain vigilant.
 
Chili777 said:

Airborne Daddy said:

Chili777 said:

Airborne Daddy said:

RascalRaccoon said:

What is the reason behind the powder being described as orange?
Click to expand...
A few suppliers rely on Tang as a filler....
Click to expand...
It turns out the label calling it an orange powder was an error, and that's getting fixed.

Tirz is also what the Da weight points to, rather than Reta. According to the MS data, the molecular weight came out to:

~4812.53 Da, which lines up with Tirzepatide

For Retatrutide, the molecular weight is lower, at about ~4731 Da.
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This is all being done on purpose as well—they're doubling their profits.... I'm just waiting for the day they ship out plain mannitol. Luckily, our disgust and skepticism keep growing every day, and so does the chance that someone or some group will test each product from each seller. GLAD WE'VE GOT SHARP PEOPLE WATCHING OUT LIKE YOU AND SO MANY OTHERS to push back against this shady ass bullshit.
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In my view, demand has grown so quickly that suppliers simply can't handle it. As output was pushed to its limit, slip-ups have become increasingly common. Standards have slipped across the board — from endotoxins, to short fills, to peptides with the wrong labels and contamination concerns. We have to remain vigilant.
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And jeep put part of the blame on quality raws becoming harder to get, similar to how with aas they're now getting 92 and 94% raws instead of 96-98....

And like you mentioned, demand and vendors blowing up.... check out pphk and homo, 3 different cap colors of r30 in under a month. Maybe they're picking up leftovers..... or sticking a label on whatever you ordered and you end up with whatever they ship. Fuck.
 
Whoever sold this product isn't named anywhere I can see on this forum. Making that vendor's identity public would be valuable if anyone has it.

This is one swap that could easily slip past you without a test. Reta and tirz aren't the same compound, but their effects overlap heavily and the doses sit in a similar range, so I wouldn't be shocked if the majority of users never caught on.

What has always struck me as odd is that this kind of thing, along with bunk or empty vials, doesn't turn up far more often. After all, the only real safeguard is repeat buyers sticking with a vendor whose "brand" is already established.
 
Getting tirz instead of a more dangerous or consequential peptide is honestly a stroke of luck. The way they handle any single task reflects how they handle all of them.
 
I believe this is actually a fairly common occurrence. My very first pep ("reta") came from a single-vial vendor tied to my test ugl source. It completely wiped out my appetite. Then I got a kit from one of the sellers on here for my next vial, and I sent it for 3p testing. The appetite suppression difference was ENORMOUS—that initial "reta" hit far harder than my grey, 3p tested reta. I've always had a hunch that first vial was tirz, not reta. That level of appetite suppression never came back for me.
 
lessthanhalf said:

Whoever sold this product isn't named anywhere I can see on this forum. Making that vendor's identity public would be valuable if anyone has it.

This is one swap that could easily slip past you without a test. Reta and tirz aren't the same compound, but their effects overlap heavily and the doses sit in a similar range, so I wouldn't be shocked if the majority of users never caught on.

What has always struck me as odd is that this kind of thing, along with bunk or empty vials, doesn't turn up far more often. After all, the only real safeguard is repeat buyers sticking with a vendor whose "brand" is already established.
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Per the lab's policy, the source stays confidential until the customer who funded the test consents to making the results public. My understanding is that this is standard practice for all paid testing.
 
lessthanhalf said:

Whoever sold this product isn't named anywhere I can see on this forum. Making that vendor's identity public would be valuable if anyone has it.

This is one swap that could easily slip past you without a test. Reta and tirz aren't the same compound, but their effects overlap heavily and the doses sit in a similar range, so I wouldn't be shocked if the majority of users never caught on.

What has always struck me as odd is that this kind of thing, along with bunk or empty vials, doesn't turn up far more often. After all, the only real safeguard is repeat buyers sticking with a vendor whose "brand" is already established.
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"Per the lab, 2 of the vials tested were provided by end users, while 6 came from Canadian resellers. One affected customer says the likely origin points to the Guangzhou area of China, and also mentioned that a vendor posing as a manufacturer was selling the kits at a very low price."

Figuring out the vendor/s will require some cooperation from all the resellers.
 
Frequently, this isn't just a harmless error — vendors swap in the less expensive option.
 
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