Moving TRT from glass ampoules into multi-use sterile vials

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Hi

Has anyone managed to move TRT out of glass ampoules into multi-use sterile vials safely?

The idea is to make small daily TRT doses simpler. That way there's no need to keep preloading insulin syringes, and no need to discard most of an ampoule every day.

If someone tries this, what safe methods should they know about?

Thanks
 
z900pants said:


Hi

Has anyone safely transferred TRT from glass ampoules to multi use steriled vials.

The purpose is to make daily trt mini dosing easier. No need to keep storing in insulin syringes or even throw away most of the ampoule each day. .

Are there any safe methods people should know attempting this.?

Thanks

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Ampoules intended for one-time use generally lack antimicrobial preservatives such as benzyl alcohol. Because of that, moving their contents into a multi-use vial would carry a very large infection risk.
 
....I've got some B12 ampules and have considered doing this with them...I have the right luer lock filter syringes for drawing and injecting...but I've also considered moving some or all of it into a sterile vial and adding 1:1 BAC to the vial...That won't produce a proper .9% BA solution, but I'm trying to find a way to salvage the unused portion of the ampule...

I just know that some compounders include B12 in their GLP vials "for the reasons" and it's like, what the hell, if you're going to use it within a short time period......idunno
 
Mate, adding BAC water isn't going to work in this case — TRT is an oil, and oil and water just split apart, so there's no practical way to introduce a preservative afterward. Ampoules designed for single use typically contain no preservative at all, and that's exactly why they're intended to be used once and discarded; if you keep that oil in a vial you've punctured, sterility then depends entirely on how good your technique is. The easier route is generally to ask your prescriber about the multi-dose vial version, since that already includes a preservative such as benzyl alcohol, or to discuss a dosing schedule in which each ampoule accounts for one injection.
 
John_C said:

Mate, adding BAC water isn't going to work in this case — TRT is an oil, and oil and water just split apart, so there's no practical way to introduce a preservative afterward. Ampoules designed for single use typically contain no preservative at all, and that's exactly why they're intended to be used once and discarded; if you keep that oil in a vial you've punctured, sterility then depends entirely on how good your technique is. The easier route is generally to ask your prescriber about the multi-dose vial version, since that already includes a preservative such as benzyl alcohol, or to discuss a dosing schedule in which each ampoule accounts for one injection.
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Here in Thailand, the only FDA-approved TRT available is Bayer TRT E. Plenty of underground alternatives are sold in multi-use vials, though their safety is anyone's guess. A few TRT YouTube experts have posted demonstrations of moving TRT out of glass ampoules and into sterilized multi vials. What I noticed is that none of them used filter needles. I reached out to many clinics here, and not one of them had even heard of filter needles.....wild west show here.
 
Your replies got me thinking about something. A friend of mine is on TRT, and since glute injections feel uncomfortable to him, he shoots into his quadriceps. As a result he deals with near-constant PIP—the soreness from one shot has hardly faded before the next is due. Would single-use ampoules be a better choice for him, given that they hold just the medication and the oil with no other excipients? Forgive my lack of knowledge about what causes PIP.
 
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