Lion93 said:
Hotpeppers said:
Lion93 said:
I don’t entirely agree with that.
Without knowing the exact dosages, there’s no way to judge the stack properly — you’d just be guessing.
And I don’t see a compelling case for throwing CJC (no DAC) + Ipamorelin into this. Sure, they hit different pathways, but realistically they don’t stack up to Tesamorelin when it comes to fat loss.
If Tesamorelin is being dropped and you still want that outcome, HGH is the better route.
CJC + Ipa = recovery / sleep
HGH = a stronger, more reliable fat loss signal
Once you’re at that level (8–10%), peptides matter less anyway — execution does.
Right now my weekly Reta dose is 3mg, motsc is 2mg taken every day, tesa is 1mg per day, and GHK-cu is also 1mg per day. Once I begin my bulk, I was considering swapping tesa out for CJC/ipa. At the moment I figure I'm sitting at roughly 13-15% body fat, so there's still a bit left to lose before the bulk starts. I realize HGH is the superior option, but I'd prefer to avoid shutting down my natural production. HGH is something I have never used.
At 3 mg weekly, Retatrutide is already a respectable dosage.
As for 2 mg of MOTS-C taken every day — that works, though I'd prefer to run MOTS-C only on days you don't train.
A 1 mg dose of Tesamorelin is on the lower side. Most people would begin at about 2 mg instead.
Tesamorelin and HGH share a comparable pathway, but Tesamorelin goes about it indirectly — it tells the liver to ramp up IGF-1 output, and that in turn drives lipolysis. HGH, by contrast, works more directly within the body.
Whether 1 mg of GHK-Cu per day makes sense comes down to what you're after — skin, recovery, healing, and so on.
CJC-1295 plus Ipamorelin won't stand in for Tesamorelin. Their mechanisms of action differ.
On the subject of HGH: your body naturally makes about 1.5 IU each day, and that output usually bounces back once you quit using HGH.
Ultimately, the choice of what suits your goal is yours — what I've laid out is simply the stack I'd suggest.