Insomnia

Mr. Blonde said:

Here are a few options worth trying.

1.) Glycine — take it at night before bed. Minimum of 3grams, though 6-9 grams is also fine.

Should that not be enough...

2.) Magnesium glycinate — roughly 1,000 mgs before bed at night.

Should that not be enough...

3.) Give this 3-part stack a shot: Ashwagandha (the ksm66 version, 600mg), L theanine (200mg), and melatonin (5mg). Take 1 pill of each at night before bed.

NOW is the brand I use. Any brand you prefer is fine.

dpsnutrition.net

This sight (no affiliate code lol) is the one I normally go with. It carries a massive range of supplements and the prices tend to be the lowest.

Hope this helps.
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I appreciate it.

😅 I'm already on 2000mg magnesium glycinate, plus 250mg ashwaganda and 400mg l-theanine.
 
It could be worth exploring magnesium glycinate. This form is usually easier on the stomach and less apt to bring on digestive trouble, though considering the daytime drowsiness you brought up, I would still not go too high with the dose.
 
Calm Logic said:

What helps me is taking marijuana gummies no less than 30 minutes before going to sleep. I wake up feeling okay. You could begin with 5 mg THC, which is half a gummy, or adjust as you like.
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Look for gummies or drinks containing roughly 5mg to 10mg of THC (Delta 8 or 9), also known as Indica, plus 5mg of CBN. If your smart watch monitors sleep, your restlessness score should show a big improvement. The gummies I use are called Knockout, made by Dodi. I also pick up the Stigma Sleep Tonic at Total Wine.
 
Heatherweather said:


I have had terrible insomnia for years. This was well before starting Tirz, and is somewhat connected to my anxiety (which is under control with perscription meds). Things like melatonin, magnesium, etc., all make me drowsy mid-day, especially when taking them the night before. Perscription meds help me sleep, but same issue - I'm not alert the next day.

Is there a peptide that anyone likes that has worked for them? I've seen mixed reviews for Epitalon, DSIP, etc.

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I've just begun taking sermorelin, since it's said to improve sleep. It's only been 2 weeks so far. If you'd like, I can report back on whether anything shifts.
 
reta-stacker said:

Insomnia is awful. I haven't looked into peptides aimed at sleep problems in any focused way, since I'd rather not end up dependent on something. Even so, CJC-IPA appears to help me get to sleep fast. The options you listed are supposedly meant to tackle sleep problems. Wishing you the best.
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To build on what I posted earlier in this thread: after taking a break from CJC-IPA for roughly 2 weeks, I used that window to start injecting Epitalon at night, right before turning in, and it has been putting me out fast and hard. Since I'm an older guy, I still wake up near 4 am to pee no matter what, but getting back to sleep afterward is no problem. I also swallow a magnesium glycinate tablet right before bed, though I honestly can't tell whether it does anything for my sleep either way.
 
I use antihistamines — Diphenhydramine hydrochloride to be exact — and they do the job nicely, though taking them as frequently as I currently do isn't something I should keep up. In most countries you can get it without a prescription, since it isn't truly habit-forming the way Xanax or sleeping pills are (that said, if you take it daily for months, the sedative effect eventually wears off).

For short-term needs or the occasional rough night, it's a solid option…but sadly, a couple of studies have linked very long-term use to Alzheimer's disease.

I'm sure this isn't news to you, but meditation and mindfulness combined with psychotherapy gave me the most lasting benefit.
 
reta-stacker said:

To build on what I posted earlier in this thread: after taking a break from CJC-IPA for roughly 2 weeks, I used that window to start injecting Epitalon at night, right before turning in, and it has been putting me out fast and hard. Since I'm an older guy, I still wake up near 4 am to pee no matter what, but getting back to sleep afterward is no problem. I also swallow a magnesium glycinate tablet right before bed, though I honestly can't tell whether it does anything for my sleep either way.
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What dose of epitalon do people use?
 
RubbaDubba1 said:

Wanna hear about my sleep struggles? Each night before lying down, my stack was: Taurine at 3000mg, Magnesium glycinate at 400mg, Melatonin at 100mg, Belsomra at 15mg, Lyrica at 300mg, a muscle relaxer, plus Tramadol at 50mg. Once I layered Epithalon nasal spray on top of everything, improvements finally showed up — but then I had to quit it cold because of a procedure scheduled for Wednesday. Restarting can't come soon enough, and this time I plan to add nasal DSIP into the mix as well. These days I'm managing 6-7 hours per night, which beats anything I've had in more than a year. My goal now is to slowly taper off most of these compounds and find out whether the peptides alone can carry the load. Having worked overnights for 35 years, I'm F'ing cooked.
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That sounds exhausting — I'm really sorry you have to go through all of that just to get some rest. 35 years is a LOT. Here's hoping one of these peptides does the trick for you, so you can count on 6-7 hours . . . or even more!
 
Jilla said:

I use antihistamines — Diphenhydramine hydrochloride to be exact — and they do the job nicely, though taking them as frequently as I currently do isn't something I should keep up. In most countries you can get it without a prescription, since it isn't truly habit-forming the way Xanax or sleeping pills are (that said, if you take it daily for months, the sedative effect eventually wears off).

For short-term needs or the occasional rough night, it's a solid option…but sadly, a couple of studies have linked very long-term use to Alzheimer's disease.

I'm sure this isn't news to you, but meditation and mindfulness combined with psychotherapy gave me the most lasting benefit.
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My insomnia has been with me my whole life. Unlike some people who sleep poorly, mine isn't tied to anxiety or rumination. I'm simply awake — not fretting, not working through a problem, just conscious. I manage to read quite a bit ; )

Pharmaceuticals have brought me relief (hallelujah!). Getting the rx dialed in took plenty of time and a few different doctors, and now it's straightforward. Every single day I feel grateful, because being unable to sleep is genuinely miserable.
 
AngieHolmes said:

That sounds exhausting — I'm really sorry you have to go through all of that just to get some rest. 35 years is a LOT. Here's hoping one of these peptides does the trick for you, so you can count on 6-7 hours . . . or even more!
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On top of that, they asked me to shift my working hours to cover shifts so they could dodge paying any OT. Not happening! I go out of my way to carry more than my fair share of the workload — that's not something I'll do, and it's not my building anyway. Sleep matters, and after I stopped a couple of things and cut doses on others, my sleep got worse. So it's back to the drawing board — and thank you.
 
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