That's great. I was doing the same thing back in my 20's.
I appreciate you sharing your petspctive, but you've got it wrong. I'm going to keep talking with him, and I'll keep trying to help him out. If he decides to eat 3 donuts, that's his call. I'm not sitting in judgment of him for it, and I'm not saying he's doing something wrong. There's some wisdom in this thread that will aid me in the conversation.
I appreciate that. My goal was never to label him as "wrong".
People vary, but my sense is that plenty of folks simply disregard guidance. Big Pharma commercials in the US run forever! Every GLP-1 ad I've come across includes wording along the lines of "Combined with diet and exercise..."
That's a lovely way to look at it! Pardon me if this comes off as preachy...perhaps because, as a woman, I've had more people than I can count remark on my body...but when I try to help, I ask myself: would I want this kind of help handed to me? I'm not saying you lack sensitivity - you strike me as someone who sincerely wants to assist others! Even so, unsolicited weight loss advice can rub people the wrong way, and since you work with him, keep in mind that you'll want to preserve a functional working relationship.
Troposphere said:
During my teenage years and all through college, lifting weights and running were my thing. Then senior year arrived and I put on a lot of pounds, since the library and studying took up basically all my time.woundcarping said:
For most people who use peptides, there is relatively little effort required.
What interests me less than sustainable, modest shifts are radical life overhauls. Because radical changes demand sustained discipline and concerted effort, they work better for narrow, short-term aims. My own life shows this: 8 years ago, through diet and exercise, I dropped 80lb in a way I couldn't maintain, then put 60lb back on. These days I'm 15lb down, doing only things I can keep doing "forever," and every metric that isn't improving is basically unchanged.
Rather than concentrating on "earning" or justifying weight loss/decomposition success through effort, my focus has been on figuring out how to optimize the result for myself… part of that means not beating myself up for living life. Another part means striking some balance between hedonism and responsibility, which I take to be the heart of this thread. Luckily, hedonistic eating holds far less appeal than it used to, but salads still aren't on my plate. I do take supplements, something I'd never done previously.
Once I reach my target, I might develop an interest in resistance training, but I'm fairly certain I won't turn into a lifelong gym rat. Short bursts of high intensity aimed at short-term goals satisfy me more than showing up at the gym daily until I inevitably "fall off the wagon."
Ai comparing data from now vs my previous time losing significant weight:
Later on, I happened to discover indoor climbing, and for a long stretch I never touched the weight stack again.
What I'm getting at, in a long-winded sort of way, is that resistance training can come in plenty of enjoyable forms besides weights. Perhaps something will click for you.
These days I've gone back to lifting, but as a way to prevent injury, since climbing puts a lot of strain on the elbows and shoulders.
I appreciate you saying that. It's ridiculous how often women get criticized over the smallest things. What happened to you was wrong, and nobody should have to put up with it. You're right that a lot of people are easily offended. My guess is this guy feels the same way about his wieght. So my first instinct is to figure out where he's coming from, which is why I asked: when people on trizeptide eat that way, do they end up sick? That's what this whole thread is about. Clearly I didn't explain that well at the start. Reta is what I take, not trizepotide. If I had 3 donuts, I would be extremely, extremely sick. From this threat I've picked up that some folks on tirz can eat that much without any problem. Knowing that is valuable, because it gives me a sense of how he might see things before I bring it up with him again. When I next talk to him, I'll probably start with something like: "Maybe I should try trizeptide, on reta, I cannot cheat at all. I cannot even eat my wife's home made brownies" and after that I won't feal bad about giving him a small brownie.HouseCat said:
People vary, but my sense is that plenty of folks simply disregard guidance. Big Pharma commercials in the US run forever! Every GLP-1 ad I've come across includes wording along the lines of "Combined with diet and exercise..."
I used 5 telehealths; just 1 of them insisted on a clinician appointment, and she made it plain that diet and exercise give the meds their best results. The rest were asynchronous, yet their sign-up paperwork also pushed diet and exercise hard. Your mileage may vary.
Still, plenty of people let things go "in one ear, out the other" and overlook blatantly obvious facts all day. Case in point: hot coffee is hot...yet disposable cup lids now carry warnings reading "WARNING! Contains hot coffee! This may burn you!"
That's a lovely way to look at it! Pardon me if this comes off as preachy...perhaps because, as a woman, I've had more people than I can count remark on my body...but when I try to help, I ask myself: would I want this kind of help handed to me? I'm not saying you lack sensitivity - you strike me as someone who sincerely wants to assist others! Even so, unsolicited weight loss advice can rub people the wrong way, and since you work with him, keep in mind that you'll want to preserve a functional working relationship.
Having pizza and cake in large amounts every once in a while isn't an issue. Once you've hit 60kg down, you've earned a reward. May I ask whether all that food made you feel unwell? A buddy of mine who's on reta ate 3 slices of pizza and ended up so backed up that he had to go to the hospital.
GLP-1s get prescribed by doctors for only a small number of diagnoses. Eating donuts the way I did is definitely not part of what a doctor had in mind.
Appreciate it! Being a woman is something I genuinely enjoy (though it's the only frame of reference I've got), but the "Hey fatty!" or "Hey hot stuff!"...those I'd happily do without!Shittersfull said:
I appreciate you saying that. It's ridiculous how often women get criticized over the smallest things. What happened to you was wrong, and nobody should have to put up with it. You're right that a lot of people are easily offended. My guess is this guy feels the same way about his wieght. So my first instinct is to figure out where he's coming from, which is why I asked: when people on trizeptide eat that way, do they end up sick? That's what this whole thread is about. Clearly I didn't explain that well at the start. Reta is what I take, not trizepotide. If I had 3 donuts, I would be extremely, extremely sick. From this threat I've picked up that some folks on tirz can eat that much without any problem. Knowing that is valuable, because it gives me a sense of how he might see things before I bring it up with him again. When I next talk to him, I'll probably start with something like: "Maybe I should try trizeptide, on reta, I cannot cheat at all. I cannot even eat my wife's home made brownies" and after that I won't feal bad about giving him a small brownie.HouseCat said:
People vary, but my sense is that plenty of folks simply disregard guidance. Big Pharma commercials in the US run forever! Every GLP-1 ad I've come across includes wording along the lines of "Combined with diet and exercise..."
I used 5 telehealths; just 1 of them insisted on a clinician appointment, and she made it plain that diet and exercise give the meds their best results. The rest were asynchronous, yet their sign-up paperwork also pushed diet and exercise hard. Your mileage may vary.
Still, plenty of people let things go "in one ear, out the other" and overlook blatantly obvious facts all day. Case in point: hot coffee is hot...yet disposable cup lids now carry warnings reading "WARNING! Contains hot coffee! This may burn you!"
That's a lovely way to look at it! Pardon me if this comes off as preachy...perhaps because, as a woman, I've had more people than I can count remark on my body...but when I try to help, I ask myself: would I want this kind of help handed to me? I'm not saying you lack sensitivity - you strike me as someone who sincerely wants to assist others! Even so, unsolicited weight loss advice can rub people the wrong way, and since you work with him, keep in mind that you'll want to preserve a functional working relationship.
