"I can still eat 3 donuts"

That's great. I was doing the same thing back in my 20's.

ladyj779 said:

Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.

My apologies — I was being too indirect.

Telling a bunch of strangers online about what his coworker did isn't something done to benefit that coworker.

I'm not going to speculate about motives, but the coworker gains nothing from it. No lesson is passed on to him either.
I appreciate you sharing your petspctive, but you've got it wrong. I'm going to keep talking with him, and I'll keep trying to help him out. If he decides to eat 3 donuts, that's his call. I'm not sitting in judgment of him for it, and I'm not saying he's doing something wrong. There's some wisdom in this thread that will aid me in the conversation.
 
Shittersfull said:

That's great. I was doing the same thing back in my 20's.

ladyj779 said:

Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.

My apologies — I was being too indirect.

Telling a bunch of strangers online about what his coworker did isn't something done to benefit that coworker.

I'm not going to speculate about motives, but the coworker gains nothing from it. No lesson is passed on to him either.
I appreciate you sharing your petspctive, but you've got it wrong. I'm going to keep talking with him, and I'll keep trying to help him out. If he decides to eat 3 donuts, that's his call. I'm not sitting in judgment of him for it, and I'm not saying he's doing something wrong. There's some wisdom in this thread that will aid me in the conversation.

What good does it do your coworker to have his eating habits discussed with strangers online?

It does not help him — that statement is not wrong — and this thread was not started with helping him in mind either.

Anyway, go on.
 
Flash-BCR said:

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."
Among people who thru hike (meaning long distance hiking), there's a piece of advice you hear again and again: "hike your own hike"...People will constantly come along and insist you're doing it wrong, that your gear is bad, that you 'have to' do this or that....That saying reassures you that the hike belongs to YOU...hike your own hike....
I appreciate that. My goal was never to label him as "wrong".
 
Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.
People vary, but my sense is that plenty of folks simply disregard guidance. Big Pharma commercials in the US run forever! Every GLP-1 ad I've come across includes wording along the lines of "Combined with diet and exercise..."

I used 5 telehealths; just 1 of them insisted on a clinician appointment, and she made it plain that diet and exercise give the meds their best results. The rest were asynchronous, yet their sign-up paperwork also pushed diet and exercise hard. Your mileage may vary. 🤷‍♀️

Still, plenty of people let things go "in one ear, out the other" and overlook blatantly obvious facts all day. Case in point: hot coffee is hot...yet disposable cup lids now carry warnings reading "WARNING! Contains hot coffee! This may burn you!" 🤣

Shittersfull said:

That's great. I was doing the same thing back in my 20's.

ladyj779 said:

Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.

My apologies — I was being too indirect.

Telling a bunch of strangers online about what his coworker did isn't something done to benefit that coworker.

I'm not going to speculate about motives, but the coworker gains nothing from it. No lesson is passed on to him either.
I appreciate you sharing your petspctive, but you've got it wrong. I'm going to keep talking with him, and I'll keep trying to help him out. If he decides to eat 3 donuts, that's his call. I'm not sitting in judgment of him for it, and I'm not saying he's doing something wrong. There's some wisdom in this thread that will aid me in the conversation.
That's a lovely way to look at it! Pardon me if this comes off as preachy...perhaps because, as a woman, I've had more people than I can count remark on my body...but when I try to help, I ask myself: would I want this kind of help handed to me? I'm not saying you lack sensitivity - you strike me as someone who sincerely wants to assist others! Even so, unsolicited weight loss advice can rub people the wrong way, and since you work with him, keep in mind that you'll want to preserve a functional working relationship. 🙂
 
Troposphere said:

woundcarping said:

ambot88 said:

If someone is already putting in the work to take a glp-1, I think they ought to make at least a small effort. Sure, you might be able to eat 3 donuts.. but perhaps you shouldn't. People are strange.

For most people who use peptides, there is relatively little effort required.

What interests me less than sustainable, modest shifts are radical life overhauls. Because radical changes demand sustained discipline and concerted effort, they work better for narrow, short-term aims. My own life shows this: 8 years ago, through diet and exercise, I dropped 80lb in a way I couldn't maintain, then put 60lb back on. These days I'm 15lb down, doing only things I can keep doing "forever," and every metric that isn't improving is basically unchanged.

Rather than concentrating on "earning" or justifying weight loss/decomposition success through effort, my focus has been on figuring out how to optimize the result for myself… part of that means not beating myself up for living life. Another part means striking some balance between hedonism and responsibility, which I take to be the heart of this thread. Luckily, hedonistic eating holds far less appeal than it used to, but salads still aren't on my plate😂. I do take supplements, something I'd never done previously.

Once I reach my target, I might develop an interest in resistance training, but I'm fairly certain I won't turn into a lifelong gym rat. Short bursts of high intensity aimed at short-term goals satisfy me more than showing up at the gym daily until I inevitably "fall off the wagon."

Ai comparing data from now vs my previous time losing significant weight:

2018 vs. Recent Lows (May–June 2026)

• Weight: 226 lb → ~211 lb (-15 lb)

• Blood Pressure: 111/74–76 → ~107/72

• Fasting Glucose: 76 → 71 mg/dL

• HbA1c: 5.1% → 5.0–5.2%

• Total Cholesterol: 154 → ~150–155 mg/dl

• LDL-C: 90 → ~78 mg/dL (↓ ~13%)

• HDL-C: 40 → 38–39 mg/dL (slightly lower during active weight loss)

• Triglycerides: 120 → 76 mg/dL (↓ 37%)

• TG/HDL Ratio: 3.0 → ~2.0 (↓ ~33%)

• ApoB: Not measured → 79 mg/dL (optimal)

• Insulin Sensitivity: Not measured → HOMA-IR ~0.79 (excellent)

• Inflammation (hs-CRP): Not measured → 1.51mg/L, down substantially from earlier 2026 highs

• Kidney Function:

Creatinine: 0.94 mg/dl

eGFR: 105 mL/min/1.73m²

Cystatin C eGFR: 116 mL/min/1.73m²

Summary: Compared with 2018, you are approximately 15 pounds lighter with lower blood pressure, lower fasting glucose, markedly lower triglycerides, lower LDL cholesterol, an optimal ApoB, excellent measured insulin sensitivity, preserved kidney function, and substantially lower systemic inflammation. Glycemic control has remained excellent throughout. Aside from HDL—which commonly lags during active weight loss—virtually every measurable cardiometabolic marker is equal to or improved over your 2018 baseline.

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During my teenage years and all through college, lifting weights and running were my thing. Then senior year arrived and I put on a lot of pounds, since the library and studying took up basically all my time.

Later on, I happened to discover indoor climbing, and for a long stretch I never touched the weight stack again.

What I'm getting at, in a long-winded sort of way, is that resistance training can come in plenty of enjoyable forms besides weights. Perhaps something will click for you.

These days I've gone back to lifting, but as a way to prevent injury, since climbing puts a lot of strain on the elbows and shoulders.

Good observation — there are plenty of ways to move and exert yourself that don't feel like such a chore. Take something that isn't resistance-based: generally speaking, I'd rather walk than run. The calories burned end up the same either way, though walking eats up more time.

My day job keeps me moderately active, and combined with TRT that has kept my lean mass essentially unchanged across roughly the past 6 months/50lbs. DEXA number 5 is scheduled for the 20th; my guess is I've dropped a little lean since the scan at the end of May.
 
HouseCat said:

Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.
People vary, but my sense is that plenty of folks simply disregard guidance. Big Pharma commercials in the US run forever! Every GLP-1 ad I've come across includes wording along the lines of "Combined with diet and exercise..."

I used 5 telehealths; just 1 of them insisted on a clinician appointment, and she made it plain that diet and exercise give the meds their best results. The rest were asynchronous, yet their sign-up paperwork also pushed diet and exercise hard. Your mileage may vary. 🤷‍♀️

Still, plenty of people let things go "in one ear, out the other" and overlook blatantly obvious facts all day. Case in point: hot coffee is hot...yet disposable cup lids now carry warnings reading "WARNING! Contains hot coffee! This may burn you!" 🤣

Shittersfull said:

That's great. I was doing the same thing back in my 20's.

ladyj779 said:

Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.

My apologies — I was being too indirect.

Telling a bunch of strangers online about what his coworker did isn't something done to benefit that coworker.

I'm not going to speculate about motives, but the coworker gains nothing from it. No lesson is passed on to him either.
I appreciate you sharing your petspctive, but you've got it wrong. I'm going to keep talking with him, and I'll keep trying to help him out. If he decides to eat 3 donuts, that's his call. I'm not sitting in judgment of him for it, and I'm not saying he's doing something wrong. There's some wisdom in this thread that will aid me in the conversation.
That's a lovely way to look at it! Pardon me if this comes off as preachy...perhaps because, as a woman, I've had more people than I can count remark on my body...but when I try to help, I ask myself: would I want this kind of help handed to me? I'm not saying you lack sensitivity - you strike me as someone who sincerely wants to assist others! Even so, unsolicited weight loss advice can rub people the wrong way, and since you work with him, keep in mind that you'll want to preserve a functional working relationship. 🙂
I appreciate you saying that. It's ridiculous how often women get criticized over the smallest things. What happened to you was wrong, and nobody should have to put up with it. You're right that a lot of people are easily offended. My guess is this guy feels the same way about his wieght. So my first instinct is to figure out where he's coming from, which is why I asked: when people on trizeptide eat that way, do they end up sick? That's what this whole thread is about. Clearly I didn't explain that well at the start. Reta is what I take, not trizepotide. If I had 3 donuts, I would be extremely, extremely sick. From this threat I've picked up that some folks on tirz can eat that much without any problem. Knowing that is valuable, because it gives me a sense of how he might see things before I bring it up with him again. When I next talk to him, I'll probably start with something like: "Maybe I should try trizeptide, on reta, I cannot cheat at all. I cannot even eat my wife's home made brownies" and after that I won't feal bad about giving him a small brownie.
 
flipperdosan said:

On tirzepatide, I've dropped 30kg up to now. A lot of my food noise has gone away. Even so, I don't feel full any sooner than I used to. Last week I slipped and consumed an entire pizza plus chocolate cake.
Having pizza and cake in large amounts every once in a while isn't an issue. Once you've hit 60kg down, you've earned a reward. May I ask whether all that food made you feel unwell? A buddy of mine who's on reta ate 3 slices of pizza and ended up so backed up that he had to go to the hospital.
 
Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.
GLP-1s get prescribed by doctors for only a small number of diagnoses. Eating donuts the way I did is definitely not part of what a doctor had in mind.
 
Shittersfull said:

HouseCat said:

Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.
People vary, but my sense is that plenty of folks simply disregard guidance. Big Pharma commercials in the US run forever! Every GLP-1 ad I've come across includes wording along the lines of "Combined with diet and exercise..."

I used 5 telehealths; just 1 of them insisted on a clinician appointment, and she made it plain that diet and exercise give the meds their best results. The rest were asynchronous, yet their sign-up paperwork also pushed diet and exercise hard. Your mileage may vary. 🤷‍♀️

Still, plenty of people let things go "in one ear, out the other" and overlook blatantly obvious facts all day. Case in point: hot coffee is hot...yet disposable cup lids now carry warnings reading "WARNING! Contains hot coffee! This may burn you!" 🤣

Shittersfull said:

That's great. I was doing the same thing back in my 20's.

ladyj779 said:

Elgordoboy said:

Shittersfull said:

At work, there's a colleague who's been using trizeptite for 6 weeks, prescribed by his dr., and he's dropped a bit of wieght, not much. We aren't close, so I was taken aback that he volunteered he was taking it. In turn, I mentioned I'm on reta. I attempted to keep the chat going, but he drifted off topic.

A few day later, donuts showed up in the break room. I heard him tell someone "I can still eat 3 donuts, I just have to spread the out over 5 or 6 hours". I figured it was a joke, but then he took 3 donuts and left.

This isn't meant to mock or judge anyone. But I'm curious how many people approach glp1's with that kind of mindset? For me, I doubt I could manage 1 donut now. If I tried, I'd probably vomit. Or mess my pants.

What are Dr's advising patients? Do they say to use it as a tool for healthy eating and exercise? Or do they say "take the shot, change nothing and lose wieght"?

I'm wondering how many side affects come from those genuinely making an effort, versus those from a total lack of Changing there diet?

I'm just perplexed.

ladyj779 said:

For decades, my diet has been a healthy one. Even so, a slice of pizza, a burger, or—gasp!—a donut now and then still makes its way in

A horse trainer I knew, an Argentine ex-cavalry officer, once shared a piece of life advice that was genuinely useful. Only that single time, yet it deserves to be repeated again and again

"Ride your horse-"

(For this discussion, feel free to swap in eating healthy food)

"Ride your horse. That will make you happy. Then you won't have time to worry about what other people are doing."

A lot of people are clueless — either nobody hands them the information, or more probably it just doesn't sink in. Take the replies in this thread as an example. Not one of them seems to actually tackle the point you raised. Sure, plenty of the side effects people pin on the medication are really side effects of not knowing any better. The post wasn't passing judgment on anyone for enjoying a treat now and then. It was pointing at how little awareness exists out there in the wild. And frankly, in here as well. The other day somebody wrote "well I think people realize…" — no, they don't realize, a good number of them. When you get on a horse, you'd hope you've given some thought to basic horsemanship; when you set off on a trail, you'd hope you've looked at a map and packed water. If you haven't, then I — and anyone with a brain — is going to write you off as a dummy.

I'm on Reta and on Sunday I can put away 3 Boston creams back to back. Afterwards I feel awful, and I know I'm not doing myself any favors.

My apologies — I was being too indirect.

Telling a bunch of strangers online about what his coworker did isn't something done to benefit that coworker.

I'm not going to speculate about motives, but the coworker gains nothing from it. No lesson is passed on to him either.
I appreciate you sharing your petspctive, but you've got it wrong. I'm going to keep talking with him, and I'll keep trying to help him out. If he decides to eat 3 donuts, that's his call. I'm not sitting in judgment of him for it, and I'm not saying he's doing something wrong. There's some wisdom in this thread that will aid me in the conversation.
That's a lovely way to look at it! Pardon me if this comes off as preachy...perhaps because, as a woman, I've had more people than I can count remark on my body...but when I try to help, I ask myself: would I want this kind of help handed to me? I'm not saying you lack sensitivity - you strike me as someone who sincerely wants to assist others! Even so, unsolicited weight loss advice can rub people the wrong way, and since you work with him, keep in mind that you'll want to preserve a functional working relationship. 🙂
I appreciate you saying that. It's ridiculous how often women get criticized over the smallest things. What happened to you was wrong, and nobody should have to put up with it. You're right that a lot of people are easily offended. My guess is this guy feels the same way about his wieght. So my first instinct is to figure out where he's coming from, which is why I asked: when people on trizeptide eat that way, do they end up sick? That's what this whole thread is about. Clearly I didn't explain that well at the start. Reta is what I take, not trizepotide. If I had 3 donuts, I would be extremely, extremely sick. From this threat I've picked up that some folks on tirz can eat that much without any problem. Knowing that is valuable, because it gives me a sense of how he might see things before I bring it up with him again. When I next talk to him, I'll probably start with something like: "Maybe I should try trizeptide, on reta, I cannot cheat at all. I cannot even eat my wife's home made brownies" and after that I won't feal bad about giving him a small brownie.
Appreciate it! Being a woman is something I genuinely enjoy (though it's the only frame of reference I've got), but the "Hey fatty!" or "Hey hot stuff!"...those I'd happily do without! 🙄

You come across as a person who genuinely wants to see the full picture, and that's a worthy goal! And don't stress...nothing preaches louder than a life well lived. Once he notices you dropping weight and feeling amazing, trust me--he'll make his way over to you. 😉
 
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