How long should BPC and TB be used for a ruptured tendon?

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Hey everyone, last December I tore the biceps tendon in my left arm. When I saw the doctors, they gave me two options: go through OR, keep the arm unused for a minimum of 6 weeks, then do therapy. Or I could just live with the injury. So I chose not to do the OR. That was a long time before I even started my Peptides journey.

Over the past year though, there were several occasions where activity left me with arm pain. So I ran TB-500 (high initial dose and then maintaining) plus BPC-157 for roughly 2 month. After that, everything was OK. I've now been off for about 2 month, and today my dog yanked me hard toward another dog. And now again, when I run my hand over the tendon, I feel a uncomfort or even pain.

So what's the best way to treat the problem with peptides? Are the 2 month of TB and BPC not enough? I stayed on the Peptides until I had no pain and no uncomfortable feeling (and the vial ended).
 
From my own experience using BPC and TB for soft tissue problems, the biggest benefit shows up when rehab and loading are handled properly, rather than treating them as a standalone cure. A 2-month run is a fairly typical cycle, but a biceps rupture keeps remodeling well beyond that window, and one sharp pull can stir up a tendon that hasn't fully settled even after things have been calm. Since the dog incident, if you haven't gotten it looked at, the most useful move before starting another peptide cycle would be imaging or a physio assessment.
 
Lyophilized said:

When you say rupture... was it a complete one? Or partial?
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total. These days I've got what people call a "Popeye Biceps"

John_C said:

From my own experience using BPC and TB for soft tissue problems, the biggest benefit shows up when rehab and loading are handled properly, rather than treating them as a standalone cure. A 2-month run is a fairly typical cycle, but a biceps rupture keeps remodeling well beyond that window, and one sharp pull can stir up a tendon that hasn't fully settled even after things have been calm. Since the dog incident, if you haven't gotten it looked at, the most useful move before starting another peptide cycle would be imaging or a physio assessment.
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The thing is, there's nothing left to repair at this point. So in theory, the tendon would just sit there and that would be the fix. Surgery was the option offered for a repair. I chose against it, given the time involved and the risk. When I looked into it, plenty of others had taken the same route and skipped the OR.

John_C said:

From my own experience using BPC and TB for soft tissue problems, the biggest benefit shows up when rehab and loading are handled properly, rather than treating them as a standalone cure. A 2-month run is a fairly typical cycle, but a biceps rupture keeps remodeling well beyond that window, and one sharp pull can stir up a tendon that hasn't fully settled even after things have been calm. Since the dog incident, if you haven't gotten it looked at, the most useful move before starting another peptide cycle would be imaging or a physio assessment.
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As for imaging.. I'm not keen on going through another CT or MRT round just to learn something. And physio... without OR I had to cover it out of my own pocket. From what I know through my mother, many therapists aren't really competent. So I'd need to track down one who specializes in sports medicine... honestly, I'm not really sure.
 
Did I get this right?

There was an injury. A 2 month course was taken, and it did the job. Then 2 months went by without using anything. The injury happened again. Now you're asking if another cycle makes sense?

If that's the situation, then my answer is yes — do another cycle.
 
ladyj779 said:

Did I get this right?

There was an injury. A 2 month course was taken, and it did the job. Then 2 months went by without using anything. The injury happened again. Now you're asking if another cycle makes sense?

If that's the situation, then my answer is yes — do another cycle.
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Not exactly... Alright, let me explain a bit more. The injury happened roughly a year back. Then in April I began using TB and BPC for 2 month, and yes, it did heal.

These days I wouldn't really call it an injury, since I don't notice anything. Still, when I touch my arm at this moment, there's an uncomfortable feeling and mild pain.
 
Kyli said:

Not exactly... Alright, let me explain a bit more. The injury happened roughly a year back. Then in April I began using TB and BPC for 2 month, and yes, it did heal.

These days I wouldn't really call it an injury, since I don't notice anything. Still, when I touch my arm at this moment, there's an uncomfortable feeling and mild pain.
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From what I've seen, people usually cycle the wolverine stack, so you'd just start up another cycle. That said, if it were up to me I'd go with klow, though that's only my own preference.
 
ladyj779 said:

From what I've seen, people usually cycle the wolverine stack, so you'd just start up another cycle. That said, if it were up to me I'd go with klow, though that's only my own preference.
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Blends such as Klow aren't something I care for. That said, if I add TB and BPC on top, I'd end up with a complete KLOW stack, since KPV and GHK-Cu are already part of my daily routine. So yeah...
 
Kyli said:

total. These days I've got what people call a "Popeye Biceps"


The thing is, there's nothing left to repair at this point. So in theory, the tendon would just sit there and that would be the fix. Surgery was the option offered for a repair. I chose against it, given the time involved and the risk. When I looked into it, plenty of others had taken the same route and skipped the OR.


As for imaging.. I'm not keen on going through another CT or MRT round just to learn something. And physio... without OR I had to cover it out of my own pocket. From what I know through my mother, many therapists aren't really competent. So I'd need to track down one who specializes in sports medicine... honestly, I'm not really sure.
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Surgery is the only complete answer...

By now, though, it may be past the point where that's possible, since a tendon pulls back as time goes on.

In my right shoulder, the supraspinatus tendon was fully torn, and I went the surgical route. It got anchored back onto the bone with screws, and these days I'm completely fine—you'd never know anything had happened.

BPC and KPV are still part of my routine, because my left shoulder tendon was following the same course. Given that surgery wasn't the path you chose, the way I see it, you'll be dealing with this pain and inflammation for the remainder of your life... I'm genuinely sorry to hear it, since I'm familiar with how much it hurts and how much of a nuisance it is.

As for which peptides to run: no question about it, pin 0.5mg to 1mg of KPV right at the spot each day. That's what I do for my left shoulder daily, and it works like magic
 
Even Stem Cell Therapy of really high quality, combined with peptides, is sometimes able to mend a tendon that is only partially torn. My right arm is already done — bicep tendon, rotator cuff and labrel tear all handled surgically — and in all likelihood I'll have the left one operated on in the spring. Until then I'm getting the left one by with peptides, and it has the same problems. I realize the short term outlook sux, but this is the rest of your life. I know I'm lucky, I have the insurance, time and support to do it.

Get it fixed and rehabbed properly imo. Good luck
 
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