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Thee Oohwee

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I'm in recovery from addiction. Over 20 years I've spent time in the rooms, and right now I've got 3 years and 2 months clean. Recovery and relapse are both familiar to me — my longest stretch was 9 years and a couple of months, which ended when back pain and opiates took me out. That's a separate tale, and not one for right now.

Secrets are something an addict like me craves. Not just likes — really fucking loves. Back when Zepbound was first prescribed to me (oh, the good ole days when insurance still paid for it last year), I got on the phone with my sponsor and we talked it through at length. A self-injecting syringe was coming my way, and I didn't want to set myself off. IV drugs were part of my past. Keeping it hidden was not an option I wanted. So open is what I've been.

Over the months that followed, people noticed the weight coming off. I said thanks, and I said Zepbound. When insurance pulled the medication out from under me — this was after a sleep study proved sleep apnea AND an abdominal scan showed some fatty liver — I talked about that struggle in meetings too. How I feel about that whole mess is NOT something I'm climbing on my soapbox about in this thread, but you should know that the callousness of our insurance companies AND big pharma here in the States still burns me up.

By then I'd spent a few months researching compounded Tirzepatide, and eventually I landed on a telehealth company I trusted enough to order from. My sponsor got another call, and this one was brutally honest. No auto-injector this time. Dose calculation, drawing it up with an insulin syringe, injecting it subcutaneously myself — all on me. Somewhere in that conversation it hit me that I had been changing. Between the Twelve Steps and already being on this medication, syringes no longer triggered me when they were for my health. "Health IS Wealth," we always say. So I went ahead and placed the order with the compounded pharmacy.

How quickly it all moved surprised me — approved, prescribed, meds sent — even right on the tail-end of the whole East Coast snow blizzard disaster. Gonna lie, y'all: that first time I picked up the syringe to draw my dose, my hands were shaking. Not from addiction, not from drugs, not from fear. Just plain ole nervousness! Deep breath, drew up the dose, pinched the skin, gave myself a shot. Easy peasy. Smooth sailing after that. I even scored a free sharps container thanks to some info I got from a post in this forum.

Then a friend in recovery mentioned he was taking Retatutride, and I started reading up on it. The more I read, the more I wanted to try it and back off the Tirz. Tirz was treating me fine, but I think some of that anhedonia folks speak of had crept in. Things just didn't spark my interest like they used to. And Reta was killing it in trials and healing up folks fatty liver stuff. My sponsor got another call. I told him what I'd learned and that I was keen on trying Reta. He said it sounded like I had done my research, and all he asked was that I keep in touch with him about side effects if they get weird or bad.

Which brings me to today. This post is about making sure I don't keep this journey a secret. Its not ego. Its not pride. Its just immense joy that I am taking back ownership of my health, even by telling the disease of addiction to STFU and have several seats. Who would've thought that someone who could not stop using IV drugs would have a box of syringes in the cabinet. With my own sharps containers. With vials of peptides in my refrigerator? The bestest part about all of this is being able to authentically be myself through this whole process. Some addicts in recovery I know don't share about their peptide use, and judging them isn't my place. I just know that, for me, I can't go that route. Getting up in front of a meeting to talk about getting peps from China might not happen, but my experiences with giving my self an injection or two each week for my continued health are def gonna get talked about.

And for those who choose to keep their peptide use a secret, this post is in no way, shape, or form condemning that. I just wanted to share about my process on this incredible journey we're all on.

Where this post was going to go, I had no idea. Originally, I was just wondering how many folks in recovery are using peps while also sharing about it with others, namely their sponsors, support groups, friends outside the Program. For me, I would rather share about it than die about it, because that's what'll happen if I start keeping it a secret.
 
Thee Oohwee said:

I'm in recovery from addiction. Over 20 years I've spent time in the rooms, and right now I've got 3 years and 2 months clean. Recovery and relapse are both familiar to me — my longest stretch was 9 years and a couple of months, which ended when back pain and opiates took me out. That's a separate tale, and not one for right now.

Secrets are something an addict like me craves. Not just likes — really fucking loves. Back when Zepbound was first prescribed to me (oh, the good ole days when insurance still paid for it last year), I got on the phone with my sponsor and we talked it through at length. A self-injecting syringe was coming my way, and I didn't want to set myself off. IV drugs were part of my past. Keeping it hidden was not an option I wanted. So open is what I've been.

Over the months that followed, people noticed the weight coming off. I said thanks, and I said Zepbound. When insurance pulled the medication out from under me — this was after a sleep study proved sleep apnea AND an abdominal scan showed some fatty liver — I talked about that struggle in meetings too. How I feel about that whole mess is NOT something I'm climbing on my soapbox about in this thread, but you should know that the callousness of our insurance companies AND big pharma here in the States still burns me up.

By then I'd spent a few months researching compounded Tirzepatide, and eventually I landed on a telehealth company I trusted enough to order from. My sponsor got another call, and this one was brutally honest. No auto-injector this time. Dose calculation, drawing it up with an insulin syringe, injecting it subcutaneously myself — all on me. Somewhere in that conversation it hit me that I had been changing. Between the Twelve Steps and already being on this medication, syringes no longer triggered me when they were for my health. "Health IS Wealth," we always say. So I went ahead and placed the order with the compounded pharmacy.

How quickly it all moved surprised me — approved, prescribed, meds sent — even right on the tail-end of the whole East Coast snow blizzard disaster. Gonna lie, y'all: that first time I picked up the syringe to draw my dose, my hands were shaking. Not from addiction, not from drugs, not from fear. Just plain ole nervousness! Deep breath, drew up the dose, pinched the skin, gave myself a shot. Easy peasy. Smooth sailing after that. I even scored a free sharps container thanks to some info I got from a post in this forum.

Then a friend in recovery mentioned he was taking Retatutride, and I started reading up on it. The more I read, the more I wanted to try it and back off the Tirz. Tirz was treating me fine, but I think some of that anhedonia folks speak of had crept in. Things just didn't spark my interest like they used to. And Reta was killing it in trials and healing up folks fatty liver stuff. My sponsor got another call. I told him what I'd learned and that I was keen on trying Reta. He said it sounded like I had done my research, and all he asked was that I keep in touch with him about side effects if they get weird or bad.

Which brings me to today. This post is about making sure I don't keep this journey a secret. Its not ego. Its not pride. Its just immense joy that I am taking back ownership of my health, even by telling the disease of addiction to STFU and have several seats. Who would've thought that someone who could not stop using IV drugs would have a box of syringes in the cabinet. With my own sharps containers. With vials of peptides in my refrigerator? The bestest part about all of this is being able to authentically be myself through this whole process. Some addicts in recovery I know don't share about their peptide use, and judging them isn't my place. I just know that, for me, I can't go that route. Getting up in front of a meeting to talk about getting peps from China might not happen, but my experiences with giving my self an injection or two each week for my continued health are def gonna get talked about.

And for those who choose to keep their peptide use a secret, this post is in no way, shape, or form condemning that. I just wanted to share about my process on this incredible journey we're all on.

Where this post was going to go, I had no idea. Originally, I was just wondering how many folks in recovery are using peps while also sharing about it with others, namely their sponsors, support groups, friends outside the Program. For me, I would rather share about it than die about it, because that's what'll happen if I start keeping it a secret.
I appreciate you opening up about what you've been through; even when it doesn't seem like it, your words reach a lot of people.

Alcohol has been my main issue, though I've dabbled with various recreational substances too. Since starting Reta, my urge to drink has disappeared. The thing with alcohol for me is that once I start, I can't stop, and that leads me to compulsive, limitless use of other drugs as well.

For the first time ever, I've actually turned down a drink by saying, "No, thank you, I don't want to," and I feel completely at peace with that choice.

There's no doubt that Reta has been a big help with my addictions.
 
Addiction often serves as a way to fill a void in our lives. For certain individuals, that means drugs; for others, alcohol; and for some, it's food. In my own case, it was chronic pain and the loss of being able to stay active. The key thing I've discovered about using any kind of GLP1 is that it works as a catalyst for change. It provides the space we need to make wiser choices regarding food and exercise. Over time, those choices turn into stronger habits. Personally, I'm concerned about getting too fixated on the scale's numbers, since I remember who I was when I was well, who I turned into when I was broken, and who I am turning into now. So for me, that means avoiding daily weigh-ins. If I did that, it would become the ONLY thing I focus on. Rather, I'm focusing on my habits and how I feel instead of some final target that might not even be reachable. Use the tool, be kind to yourself along the way, and with luck, we'll all finish up happier and healthier. I'm a total stranger, but I'm incredibly proud of you for opening up and finding a healthy route for yourself.
 
Thee Oohwee said:

I'm in recovery from addiction. Over 20 years I've spent time in the rooms, and right now I've got 3 years and 2 months clean. Recovery and relapse are both familiar to me — my longest stretch was 9 years and a couple of months, which ended when back pain and opiates took me out. That's a separate tale, and not one for right now.

Secrets are something an addict like me craves. Not just likes — really fucking loves. Back when Zepbound was first prescribed to me (oh, the good ole days when insurance still paid for it last year), I got on the phone with my sponsor and we talked it through at length. A self-injecting syringe was coming my way, and I didn't want to set myself off. IV drugs were part of my past. Keeping it hidden was not an option I wanted. So open is what I've been.

Over the months that followed, people noticed the weight coming off. I said thanks, and I said Zepbound. When insurance pulled the medication out from under me — this was after a sleep study proved sleep apnea AND an abdominal scan showed some fatty liver — I talked about that struggle in meetings too. How I feel about that whole mess is NOT something I'm climbing on my soapbox about in this thread, but you should know that the callousness of our insurance companies AND big pharma here in the States still burns me up.

By then I'd spent a few months researching compounded Tirzepatide, and eventually I landed on a telehealth company I trusted enough to order from. My sponsor got another call, and this one was brutally honest. No auto-injector this time. Dose calculation, drawing it up with an insulin syringe, injecting it subcutaneously myself — all on me. Somewhere in that conversation it hit me that I had been changing. Between the Twelve Steps and already being on this medication, syringes no longer triggered me when they were for my health. "Health IS Wealth," we always say. So I went ahead and placed the order with the compounded pharmacy.

How quickly it all moved surprised me — approved, prescribed, meds sent — even right on the tail-end of the whole East Coast snow blizzard disaster. Gonna lie, y'all: that first time I picked up the syringe to draw my dose, my hands were shaking. Not from addiction, not from drugs, not from fear. Just plain ole nervousness! Deep breath, drew up the dose, pinched the skin, gave myself a shot. Easy peasy. Smooth sailing after that. I even scored a free sharps container thanks to some info I got from a post in this forum.

Then a friend in recovery mentioned he was taking Retatutride, and I started reading up on it. The more I read, the more I wanted to try it and back off the Tirz. Tirz was treating me fine, but I think some of that anhedonia folks speak of had crept in. Things just didn't spark my interest like they used to. And Reta was killing it in trials and healing up folks fatty liver stuff. My sponsor got another call. I told him what I'd learned and that I was keen on trying Reta. He said it sounded like I had done my research, and all he asked was that I keep in touch with him about side effects if they get weird or bad.

Which brings me to today. This post is about making sure I don't keep this journey a secret. Its not ego. Its not pride. Its just immense joy that I am taking back ownership of my health, even by telling the disease of addiction to STFU and have several seats. Who would've thought that someone who could not stop using IV drugs would have a box of syringes in the cabinet. With my own sharps containers. With vials of peptides in my refrigerator? The bestest part about all of this is being able to authentically be myself through this whole process. Some addicts in recovery I know don't share about their peptide use, and judging them isn't my place. I just know that, for me, I can't go that route. Getting up in front of a meeting to talk about getting peps from China might not happen, but my experiences with giving my self an injection or two each week for my continued health are def gonna get talked about.

And for those who choose to keep their peptide use a secret, this post is in no way, shape, or form condemning that. I just wanted to share about my process on this incredible journey we're all on.

Where this post was going to go, I had no idea. Originally, I was just wondering how many folks in recovery are using peps while also sharing about it with others, namely their sponsors, support groups, friends outside the Program. For me, I would rather share about it than die about it, because that's what'll happen if I start keeping it a secret.
What a wonderful post — thanks for opening up about something so private. You have my deep respect; what you've accomplished is remarkable, and you've got every right to be very proud.

I've struggled with a handful of addictions too, and a couple are still hanging around (cigarettes and clothes shopping, for instance). Sadly, Tirz didn't wipe those out for me lol.

Different from you, I usually keep some things closer to the chest. That's what I've taken away from being burned one too many times. Not everyone has earned the right to full openness — maybe they wouldn't get it, or maybe they're just ignorant, judgmental, jealous, or plain mean.

So until I feel certain, I'd rather hold things back, peptides included, and only tell the people I pick. I hope that comes across clearly; it's simply how I see things, shaped by what I've been through.

Still… your path and your resilience really come through. You should feel enormously proud.
 
I really appreciate you posting this. 3 years and 2 months — congratulations!

Food is my addiction, and I've been extremely careful to keep this peptide path from becoming simply a swap of one addiction for another. The way you do it, I also make a point of being open about it. For me — though not necessarily for everyone — being open works against addiction. Up to now, it's working!

It sounds as though your sponsor is excellent and your perspective is wonderful. May your sobriety and health continue, and may you find joy along the way.
 
When it comes to food, this has always been my mindset. My goal has been to quit overeating. I generally hide that fact. If I do have candy bars, it's typically 2 of them, and I have them where no one can see. My guess is that this is likely one piece of the issue.
 
I’m grateful for every one of your supportive replies and compliments. It also means a lot that several of you opened up about your own stories. That truly matters to me. None of us is doing this alone, and this community shows its strength through people like you. Sending peace and love to everyone. 🙌🏼✌🏼💜
 
I used to shoot drugs into my veins, and this April 28th I'll hit 12 years clean and sober (my belly button and my recovery birthday fall on the same date — the grace of God and the hand of the San Diego Sheriff's Department got me here 🤣💚💪🙏). I went through something similar, so I just wanted to offer some support.

Weight has been a battle for me since childhood, and odds are that played a big part in where my addiction began... I wanted to belong somewhere, since I could tell I didn't look like everyone else. My weight went up and down plenty of times, and I gave every approach a shot. Finally, last year, I felt sure enough of myself to bring up medical weight loss out loud, but the moment a self injected shot entered the picture I said no — having needles back in my life was not something I could even slightly stomach. Months went by, nothing I could take by mouth appeared to do anything, and then my mom got put on a semaglutide and told me how simple it was and how unlike the way I used on the streets it was.

Her results were incredible, so I looked into it myself. While doing that research, I turned things over inside my head and decided the odds of me relapsing someday from packing on too much weight were higher than the odds of me relapsing from poking my belly with a tiny needle in a way that looks nothing like my IV days. It also became clear to me that tirz's benefits would change my health and my daily life for the better in a way that lasts. The good outweighed the bad, and I'm thankful it did, because I came across a place online I felt I could trust — lots of support, accountability, and a doctor in the mix — and that's how my tirz journey began.

I'm 4 months in and have dropped close to 30lbs, and I find there to be absolutely no impact whatsoever on my recovery. Truth is, I feel better and stronger than I ever have, and I would never wanna trade this feeling for the junk that once went into my body and destroyed it....and after hearing all about reta and how it helps the body fight some of the things that are genetic markers in my family, despite being in the research phase, i can come at it with a sense of humor because I've put WAY WORSE into my body and if that didn't kill me, i'm pretty sure this won't either lol

so for anybody in recovery who might be reading my response or the original poster and feeling the same way, tentative to get started, i just wanna say that we all know where we are in our recovery and everybody's individual situation is different but for me, this has helped me climb that mountain rather than slide back down that hill.
 
Man, I envy that the rooms work for you the way they do. All that hopeful, flowery talk — I wish I had it. I'm cynical and deeply irreligious. The rooms got me off to a great start and showed me sobriety is at least possible, but in my very Christian area, I find they offer me little comfort.

I've been known to inject a little meth/heroin on occasion. SubQ shots, I was pleasantly surprised to find, didn't remind me of intravenous work in the slightest.

I'm 27 years old. Marijuana at 16, meth at 17, IV/crack by 20, then I mellowed out a bit while still having relapses here and there, quit meth but had some trouble with benzos recently. Currently about 6-7 months totally sober from everything for the first time in a while, on probation for a DUI. Like 5 years sober from meth though.

I never made the decision to quit. Or rather I made the decision many times. Then one day the urge just went away, for meth, and I was able to control it. Now the urge for other substances has mostly gone away, thanks to my last run in with the law.

Retatrutide definitely makes me feel healthier and more in control, and I am quite a bit more hopeful for the future than I have been in the past despite the fact that I won't have a driver's license again until I'm in my thirties.

I expect to live a middling life and pass away tragically from a stroke or heart attack in my sixties. The way that I used took so much from me that I am confident can never be regained. Heartbreak has torn me apart.

But I think peptides might drastically improve my quality of life for the time I have left if I can hold my shit together.

I too, have no idea where this post is going to go. I'm glad that things are working out for you. Make yourself at home, but don't get too comfortable 🙂

Oh, and don't be scared to tell the truth anywhere it damn well pleases you. I wouldn't be bothered for one minute being judged by the gaggle of failures that makes up the bulk of a meeting – numbering myself among them, mind you, and having attended many meetings of my own accord. I'll always recommend them to the newcomer, but it's not the end all be all.
 
birdwhacker said:

Man, I envy that the rooms work for you the way they do. All that hopeful, flowery talk — I wish I had it. I'm cynical and deeply irreligious. The rooms got me off to a great start and showed me sobriety is at least possible, but in my very Christian area, I find they offer me little comfort.

I've been known to inject a little meth/heroin on occasion. SubQ shots, I was pleasantly surprised to find, didn't remind me of intravenous work in the slightest.

I'm 27 years old. Marijuana at 16, meth at 17, IV/crack by 20, then I mellowed out a bit while still having relapses here and there, quit meth but had some trouble with benzos recently. Currently about 6-7 months totally sober from everything for the first time in a while, on probation for a DUI. Like 5 years sober from meth though.

I never made the decision to quit. Or rather I made the decision many times. Then one day the urge just went away, for meth, and I was able to control it. Now the urge for other substances has mostly gone away, thanks to my last run in with the law.

Retatrutide definitely makes me feel healthier and more in control, and I am quite a bit more hopeful for the future than I have been in the past despite the fact that I won't have a driver's license again until I'm in my thirties.

I expect to live a middling life and pass away tragically from a stroke or heart attack in my sixties. The way that I used took so much from me that I am confident can never be regained. Heartbreak has torn me apart.

But I think peptides might drastically improve my quality of life for the time I have left if I can hold my shit together.

I too, have no idea where this post is going to go. I'm glad that things are working out for you. Make yourself at home, but don't get too comfortable 🙂

Oh, and don't be scared to tell the truth anywhere it damn well pleases you. I wouldn't be bothered for one minute being judged by the gaggle of failures that makes up the bulk of a meeting – numbering myself among them, mind you, and having attended many meetings of my own accord. I'll always recommend them to the newcomer, but it's not the end all be all.
What you've described mirrors my own path closely. It sounds like a cliche, I know, yet it genuinely works. The key is simply to keep coming back. Meetings along with the Twelve Steps. For me, recovery without the Twelve Steps is unthinkable - through them I've built my own set of beliefs and values. Compared to when I first walked in, I feel like a completely different person now.

I appreciate you being so open. How about we both stick around on this side of the fence for a while, yeah? Also good to hear Reta has been a help to you too.

Don't lose heart. Things do improve.
 
Thee Oohwee said:

birdwhacker said:

Man, I envy that the rooms work for you the way they do. All that hopeful, flowery talk — I wish I had it. I'm cynical and deeply irreligious. The rooms got me off to a great start and showed me sobriety is at least possible, but in my very Christian area, I find they offer me little comfort.

I've been known to inject a little meth/heroin on occasion. SubQ shots, I was pleasantly surprised to find, didn't remind me of intravenous work in the slightest.

I'm 27 years old. Marijuana at 16, meth at 17, IV/crack by 20, then I mellowed out a bit while still having relapses here and there, quit meth but had some trouble with benzos recently. Currently about 6-7 months totally sober from everything for the first time in a while, on probation for a DUI. Like 5 years sober from meth though.

I never made the decision to quit. Or rather I made the decision many times. Then one day the urge just went away, for meth, and I was able to control it. Now the urge for other substances has mostly gone away, thanks to my last run in with the law.

Retatrutide definitely makes me feel healthier and more in control, and I am quite a bit more hopeful for the future than I have been in the past despite the fact that I won't have a driver's license again until I'm in my thirties.

I expect to live a middling life and pass away tragically from a stroke or heart attack in my sixties. The way that I used took so much from me that I am confident can never be regained. Heartbreak has torn me apart.

But I think peptides might drastically improve my quality of life for the time I have left if I can hold my shit together.

I too, have no idea where this post is going to go. I'm glad that things are working out for you. Make yourself at home, but don't get too comfortable 🙂

Oh, and don't be scared to tell the truth anywhere it damn well pleases you. I wouldn't be bothered for one minute being judged by the gaggle of failures that makes up the bulk of a meeting – numbering myself among them, mind you, and having attended many meetings of my own accord. I'll always recommend them to the newcomer, but it's not the end all be all.
What you've described mirrors my own path closely. It sounds like a cliche, I know, yet it genuinely works. The key is simply to keep coming back. Meetings along with the Twelve Steps. For me, recovery without the Twelve Steps is unthinkable - through them I've built my own set of beliefs and values. Compared to when I first walked in, I feel like a completely different person now.

I appreciate you being so open. How about we both stick around on this side of the fence for a while, yeah? Also good to hear Reta has been a help to you too.

Don't lose heart. Things do improve.
Appreciate the kindness, friend. I intend to stay for a while. At my age, I can say I've got a sense of what does and doesn't work. A whole life's worth of what doesn't. A stomach-turning amount of what doesn't work. I'm sick to death of it.

I need to figure out how to make all of this count for something, since it's clear the clock is running out.

For some time now, I've realized that dropping weight and getting physically fitter is essential for reaching stability.

Now, for the first time ever, it seems achievable. I've never laid eyes on what my grown-up body looks like at a healthy weight. I'm keen to alter that.

Here's to injecting drugs from China! May it turn out better than last time inshaAllah
 
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