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I know a guy who works as a nurse and used to compete as a pro bodybuilder; he's about 55y.o. Given that background, you'd expect him to have a solid grasp of 💉, sterility and that kind of thing. Yet he runs peps and gets everything wrong!

  • reconstitutes them with plain saline
  • forgets them outside the fridge for a few hours until he remembers to put them back
  • reuses the same syringe
  • begins a protocol, then loses interest or forgets and quits for 1-2 weeks before starting again from scratch
  • applies alcohol lotion, or blue methylated/denatured/industrial alcohol
  • now and then stores the vials (reconstituted or not) near the heater or in the path of the air-conditioning

Honestly, it feels like he's hit every single one. I tried to bring it up with him, but his answer was: this is all bullshit, nothing happens, relax.

A few of us, him included, did a small group buy together. I just hope he won't turn around and claim the stuff I ordered was bad.

Do you have friends like this?
 
The only thing he actually bothers to be careful about is not shaking the vials — even though jano has said that's a myth.
 
Slaine said:

I know a guy who works as a nurse and used to compete as a pro bodybuilder; he's about 55y.o. Given that background, you'd expect him to have a solid grasp of 💉, sterility and that kind of thing. Yet he runs peps and gets everything wrong!

  • reconstitutes them with plain saline
  • forgets them outside the fridge for a few hours until he remembers to put them back
  • reuses the same syringe
  • begins a protocol, then loses interest or forgets and quits for 1-2 weeks before starting again from scratch
  • applies alcohol lotion, or blue methylated/denatured/industrial alcohol
  • now and then stores the vials (reconstituted or not) near the heater or in the path of the air-conditioning

Honestly, it feels like he's hit every single one. I tried to bring it up with him, but his answer was: this is all bullshit, nothing happens, relax.

A few of us, him included, did a small group buy together. I just hope he won't turn around and claim the stuff I ordered was bad.

Do you have friends like this?
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Nope, nobody in my circle fits that description. Why anyone would roll the dice like that is beyond me, yet the freedom to make poor choices about your own body is something I genuinely appreciate about the USA.

Food safety is where I'm the opposite of relaxed — I'm extremely careful — but one of my relatives takes a very hands-off approach. He's still alive and well; I just won't eat at his place anymore 😂. Not that this has anything to do with peptides.
 
This sounds like a serious case of ADD. Even so, that doesn't justify the plain saline. Ask whether he would consider medication for it. It might end up saving his life — and a few other people's too 💉.
 
Remember when nurses used to swipe supplies from the hospital? Perhaps a Christmas gift of syringes and alcohol wipes would sort him out.

ADD or another executive function problem can only explain part of that kind of complacency. It feels like a more severe, long-running form of the "no issues so far" line, which this forum has seen before, such as when vendor and Amazon BAC was more popular last year.

On the nurse angle, it brings to mind the old saying about landscapers having the worst lawns.
 
Calm Logic said:

Remember when nurses used to swipe supplies from the hospital? Perhaps a Christmas gift of syringes and alcohol wipes would sort him out.

ADD or another executive function problem can only explain part of that kind of complacency. It feels like a more severe, long-running form of the "no issues so far" line, which this forum has seen before, such as when vendor and Amazon BAC was more popular last year.

On the nurse angle, it brings to mind the old saying about landscapers having the worst lawns.
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I can promise you that. Nurses still take things from the hospital, lol. I know one who actually has the battery powered sanitizer dispenser mounted in her mud room 🤣.

And even if you handed him 1,000 syringes, I'm sure he'd still reuse them.
 
Calm Logic said:

Remember when nurses used to swipe supplies from the hospital? Perhaps a Christmas gift of syringes and alcohol wipes would sort him out.

ADD or another executive function problem can only explain part of that kind of complacency. It feels like a more severe, long-running form of the "no issues so far" line, which this forum has seen before, such as when vendor and Amazon BAC was more popular last year.

On the nurse angle, it brings to mind the old saying about landscapers having the worst lawns.
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Or as the saying goes, doctors make the worst patients…
 
Slaine said:

I know a guy who works as a nurse and used to compete as a pro bodybuilder; he's about 55y.o. Given that background, you'd expect him to have a solid grasp of 💉, sterility and that kind of thing. Yet he runs peps and gets everything wrong!

  • reconstitutes them with plain saline
  • forgets them outside the fridge for a few hours until he remembers to put them back
  • reuses the same syringe
  • begins a protocol, then loses interest or forgets and quits for 1-2 weeks before starting again from scratch
  • applies alcohol lotion, or blue methylated/denatured/industrial alcohol
  • now and then stores the vials (reconstituted or not) near the heater or in the path of the air-conditioning

Honestly, it feels like he's hit every single one. I tried to bring it up with him, but his answer was: this is all bullshit, nothing happens, relax.

A few of us, him included, did a small group buy together. I just hope he won't turn around and claim the stuff I ordered was bad.

Do you have friends like this?
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Plenty of nurses have a pretty thin grasp of medicine. Take the anti-vax crowd — a fair number of them work in nursing. A few have gone so far as to reject science outright. None of it makes any sense whatsoever.
 
During the years when he was competing as a pro, we kept urging him to get some blood tests done, and he kept refusing. When we pressed him on the reason, this is what he told us:

If I do the exams, the results will be bad and I will have to stop, so I don't do them!!! ...

Anyway, I ordered 100 insulin syringes for him (they run about 8-10$, and it's not like he's short on money — he simply doesn't care) so I can hand them over, and with any luck he'll actually use them (the right way).
 
Slaine said:

I know a guy who works as a nurse and used to compete as a pro bodybuilder; he's about 55y.o. Given that background, you'd expect him to have a solid grasp of 💉, sterility and that kind of thing. Yet he runs peps and gets everything wrong!

  • reconstitutes them with plain saline
  • forgets them outside the fridge for a few hours until he remembers to put them back
  • reuses the same syringe
  • begins a protocol, then loses interest or forgets and quits for 1-2 weeks before starting again from scratch
  • applies alcohol lotion, or blue methylated/denatured/industrial alcohol
  • now and then stores the vials (reconstituted or not) near the heater or in the path of the air-conditioning

Honestly, it feels like he's hit every single one. I tried to bring it up with him, but his answer was: this is all bullshit, nothing happens, relax.

A few of us, him included, did a small group buy together. I just hope he won't turn around and claim the stuff I ordered was bad.

Do you have friends like this?
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I do.. thankfully I'm able to sway them somewhat toward having SOME kind of common sense, but a lot of times it goes like this: 🤦🤦





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There's a limit to how much you can influence them, but my guess is that years of gear (AAS) use have left him set in his ways.

Still probably makes your skin crawl when you see him do this in action?

Have a Good one!
 
Slaine said:

I know a guy who works as a nurse and used to compete as a pro bodybuilder; he's about 55y.o. Given that background, you'd expect him to have a solid grasp of 💉, sterility and that kind of thing. Yet he runs peps and gets everything wrong!

  • reconstitutes them with plain saline
  • forgets them outside the fridge for a few hours until he remembers to put them back
  • reuses the same syringe
  • begins a protocol, then loses interest or forgets and quits for 1-2 weeks before starting again from scratch
  • applies alcohol lotion, or blue methylated/denatured/industrial alcohol
  • now and then stores the vials (reconstituted or not) near the heater or in the path of the air-conditioning

Honestly, it feels like he's hit every single one. I tried to bring it up with him, but his answer was: this is all bullshit, nothing happens, relax.

A few of us, him included, did a small group buy together. I just hope he won't turn around and claim the stuff I ordered was bad.

Do you have friends like this?
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I already like this guy! He's my kind of person. Be a rebel, be a man!
 
tekkit said:

Plenty of nurses have a pretty thin grasp of medicine. Take the anti-vax crowd — a fair number of them work in nursing. A few have gone so far as to reject science outright. None of it makes any sense whatsoever.
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Nurses aren't the only ones. Doctors routinely act in ways that contradict the science — it's staggering. They dismiss whole diseases outright and mistreat the people who have them, even when the world's leading researchers fully accept those conditions. On the whole, medicine shows a great deal of resistance to reality and to science; it operates as a law unto itself, answerable to no oversight. The mere fact that doctors take an action, or refrain from one, doesn't make it medically correct. Primary research is a far superior source of information — medicine typically trails our understanding by many decades, and it frequently refuses to accept reality for even longer than that.
 
BrightCandle said:

Nurses aren't the only ones. Doctors routinely act in ways that contradict the science — it's staggering. They dismiss whole diseases outright and mistreat the people who have them, even when the world's leading researchers fully accept those conditions. On the whole, medicine shows a great deal of resistance to reality and to science; it operates as a law unto itself, answerable to no oversight. The mere fact that doctors take an action, or refrain from one, doesn't make it medically correct. Primary research is a far superior source of information — medicine typically trails our understanding by many decades, and it frequently refuses to accept reality for even longer than that.
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True — a medical degree doesn't protect anyone from foolishness, sadly.

There's an old joke that sums it up: what's the name for the student who finishes last in their med school class?

A doctor.
 
Slaine said:

I know a guy who works as a nurse and used to compete as a pro bodybuilder; he's about 55y.o. Given that background, you'd expect him to have a solid grasp of 💉, sterility and that kind of thing. Yet he runs peps and gets everything wrong!

  • reconstitutes them with plain saline
  • forgets them outside the fridge for a few hours until he remembers to put them back
  • reuses the same syringe
  • begins a protocol, then loses interest or forgets and quits for 1-2 weeks before starting again from scratch
  • applies alcohol lotion, or blue methylated/denatured/industrial alcohol
  • now and then stores the vials (reconstituted or not) near the heater or in the path of the air-conditioning

Honestly, it feels like he's hit every single one. I tried to bring it up with him, but his answer was: this is all bullshit, nothing happens, relax.

A few of us, him included, did a small group buy together. I just hope he won't turn around and claim the stuff I ordered was bad.

Do you have friends like this?
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It seems like he just YOLOs his way through life. I don't know anyone else who is that careless with injectables, though I do know plenty of people who are like that in other ways.
 
Grogu said:

Nope, nobody in my circle fits that description. Why anyone would roll the dice like that is beyond me, yet the freedom to make poor choices about your own body is something I genuinely appreciate about the USA.

Food safety is where I'm the opposite of relaxed — I'm extremely careful — but one of my relatives takes a very hands-off approach. He's still alive and well; I just won't eat at his place anymore 😂. Not that this has anything to do with peptides.
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omg, my mom would constantly leave food sitting out and insist it was fine.. and I'd be like, no, I really don't think I want to eat that pot of food that sat out the whole night.
 
I have a friend who works as an RN, and she recons with saline water too. I figured she knows more than I do about sterile practice and about which details truly matter.

As for me, I keep doing it my own way.
 
Pro bodybuilder through the '90s and into the early '00s. Calling those years wilder would be putting it mildly.

Guys would pin whatever they had right there in the gym locker room. Three men sharing one syringe, and you wouldn't find an alcohol swab anywhere.

These days, most heroin addicts show more concern for sterility than bodybuilders did 3 decades back.
 
BBA1969 said:

Pro bodybuilder through the '90s and into the early '00s. Calling those years wilder would be putting it mildly.

Guys would pin whatever they had right there in the gym locker room. Three men sharing one syringe, and you wouldn't find an alcohol swab anywhere.

These days, most heroin addicts show more concern for sterility than bodybuilders did 3 decades back.
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I understand your point, and things did work that way in the past — though this particular guy kept competing until roughly 10 years ago.
 
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