Has anyone actually had Global Entry revoked?

FarmgirlRebel said:

I've never come across this before.... 😳

edit: I misunderstood what the original poster was saying.
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Wow, you're picking up 10 kits or more in a single order. I figured my peptide stockpiling was bad. Good to know
 
tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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That makes no sense — why would an over-the-counter medication cause a seizure?

For my latest Jardiance prescription, I went with an Indian supplier and even forwarded the prescription to them. The package came from or passed through Dubai, and the customs paperwork listed it as personal use. No problems yet...
 
Is this only something in the US, or do other countries have it too? I had no idea "Global Entry" was even a thing until I found this forum, and I certainly didn't know it could be taken away.
 
CNCCurrency said:

FarmgirlRebel said:

I've never come across this before.... 😳

edit: I misunderstood what the original poster was saying.
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Wow, you're picking up 10 kits or more in a single order. I figured my peptide stockpiling was bad. Good to know
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Pep hoarders unite!

There are folks who get a kick out of buying clothes, cars, or whatever else it might be....for me, peptides are my thing....and since I end up selling them to friends and family too, that means I get to buy even more peptides!!!
 
Enyola said:

Is this only something in the US, or do other countries have it too? I had no idea "Global Entry" was even a thing until I found this forum, and I certainly didn't know it could be taken away.
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Global Entry applies when coming back into the US, and my understanding is that it's limited to US citizens—though I'm not 100% sure on that point. As far as I know, no other country offers a comparable program.
 
RetCurious said:

tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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That makes no sense — why would an over-the-counter medication cause a seizure?

For my latest Jardiance prescription, I went with an Indian supplier and even forwarded the prescription to them. The package came from or passed through Dubai, and the customs paperwork listed it as personal use. No problems yet...
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The seizure letters I received gave the impression that they had no idea what most of these items were. Contesting the seizure is an option. If it happens again, I might go that route. Others have also suggested that after a package gets seized, your name ends up on a list and everything afterward will be inspected or seized. That hasn't been my experience.

The group I currently buy Indian meds from keeps packages at 500g or less. The idea is that this lowers scrutiny and suspicion. Since I started following that guideline, I'm pretty sure nothing has been seized.

I'll be honest: when I began ordering from India last year, I went completely overboard and ordered almost one of everything. I've got a shit-ton of crap I'll probably never use. These days I stick to one drug at a time and <500g. Losing my GE never even crossed my mind.

A lot of people will tell you to get a PO Box, but anonymous PO Boxes are a thing of the past. Apparently after 911 you cannot get a truly anonymous PO box because the USPS and private mailbox services (like The UPS Store) are required by law to collect valid photo identification and a verifiable, physical home address for security, anti-terrorism, and fraud prevention purposes.
 
The Administration acts in ways that are arbitrary and capricious, and it has pulled GE simply because someone filmed ICE operations. Through facial recognition or by running a person's plates, they track the individual down and take away the GE.

Given that, it wouldn't shock me if this Admin eventually removes GE from every person receiving shipments out of China.
 
FarmgirlRebel said:

CNCCurrency said:

FarmgirlRebel said:

I've never come across this before.... 😳

edit: I misunderstood what the original poster was saying.
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Wow, you're picking up 10 kits or more in a single order. I figured my peptide stockpiling was bad. Good to know
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Pep hoarders unite!

There are folks who get a kick out of buying clothes, cars, or whatever else it might be....for me, peptides are my thing....and since I end up selling them to friends and family too, that means I get to buy even more peptides!!!
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On that point we're alike—my friends have no idea how to get hold of these vials that change or save lives.
 
I made a post about this earlier because 1 of my orders got seized. That worried me, and then I came across the article discussing it. I've looked around, but I can't locate anything stating they aren't doing this or that it's just an urban legend. I was thinking about whether using a business name for shipping would get around it. I haven't tested that yet since I'm still looking into it. If anyone has article links, I'd appreciate them. I'm completely amazed at how well peptide protocols have worked.
 
RigorMan said:

I made a post about this earlier because 1 of my orders got seized. That worried me, and then I came across the article discussing it. I've looked around, but I can't locate anything stating they aren't doing this or that it's just an urban legend. I was thinking about whether using a business name for shipping would get around it. I haven't tested that yet since I'm still looking into it. If anyone has article links, I'd appreciate them. I'm completely amazed at how well peptide protocols have worked.
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Same question here. Another thing I've been mulling over: suppose the parcel went to my house, addressed to a relative who isn't enrolled in GE — or even to my pet — could CBP still tie it back to my GE? My guess is no. Still, based on what I've come across, CBP doesn't reveal much about how GE eligibility is decided, and the last item on their list of disqualifying reasons is a blanket catchall.
RigorMan said:

I made a post about this earlier because 1 of my orders got seized. That worried me, and then I came across the article discussing it. I've looked around, but I can't locate anything stating they aren't doing this or that it's just an urban legend. I was thinking about whether using a business name for shipping would get around it. I haven't tested that yet since I'm still looking into it. If anyone has article links, I'd appreciate them. I'm completely amazed at how well peptide protocols have worked.
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That leaves the door open to just about anything. And I'd assume item #3 on that list amounts to your package being confiscated.





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tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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What's the reason for ordering from India? I understand the $10 savings, but how much nose spray do you actually go through? For the convenience, that $10 seems worth spending.
 
CornPop said:

tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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What's the reason for ordering from India? I understand the $10 savings, but how much nose spray do you actually go through? For the convenience, that $10 seems worth spending.
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It looks like it didn't matter for him—he got his wife through customs by beating her, and she was the one holding it!
 
CNCCurrency said:

CornPop said:

tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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What's the reason for ordering from India? I understand the $10 savings, but how much nose spray do you actually go through? For the convenience, that $10 seems worth spending.
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It looks like it didn't matter for him—he got his wife through customs by beating her, and she was the one holding it!
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That's a fair point. I was just really wondering, though. It feels like there's something I'm not in on, haha
 
CornPop said:

tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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What's the reason for ordering from India? I understand the $10 savings, but how much nose spray do you actually go through? For the convenience, that $10 seems worth spending.
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Since I take it every day, that works out to 1 each month. Looking back now, I'd simply buy it on Amazon.
 
tul9033 said:


I use it daily, so 1 per month. With hindsight being what it is... I'd just get it from Amazon.

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I bet, but who'd imagine that bringing in over-the-counter medication would lead to repercussions?
 
CNCCurrency said:

CornPop said:

tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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What's the reason for ordering from India? I understand the $10 savings, but how much nose spray do you actually go through? For the convenience, that $10 seems worth spending.
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It looks like it didn't matter for him—he got his wife through customs by beating her, and she was the one holding it!
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Wow, he hit his wife while Customs was watching? What a scumbag!
 
Airborne Daddy said:

Calm Logic said:

If the drugs are all coming in this direction, what's the point of going abroad at all, haha.
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That's the reason my vacations happen in Nebraska.... forget real id as well.... we cruise past cornfields and act like we're in Children of The Corn.
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Ha, a genuine American. Our holidays happen in Florida. Floridians are unhinged and the state offers endless creative ways to perish.

Having been to Grenada and Lebanon, I still pick America.
 
tul9033 said:

RetCurious said:

tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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tul9033 said:

Mine was taken away in December. I had 3 or 4 packages from India seized. None from China have been seized, even though I've placed several orders from there.

So I went and got TSA Precheck instead, and on my most recent international trip I used the MPC line and got through ahead of my wife, who was in the Global Entry line. I filed an appeal, but haven't heard anything back. I only used GE a single time before it was canceled — almost exactly 1 year after I got it. The last package that got seized was Azelastine allergy nose spray, which you can buy over the counter here in the US. In India I can get it for $6 per bottle, versus $15-20 in the US.
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That makes no sense — why would an over-the-counter medication cause a seizure?

For my latest Jardiance prescription, I went with an Indian supplier and even forwarded the prescription to them. The package came from or passed through Dubai, and the customs paperwork listed it as personal use. No problems yet...
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The seizure letters I received gave the impression that they had no idea what most of these items were. Contesting the seizure is an option. If it happens again, I might go that route. Others have also suggested that after a package gets seized, your name ends up on a list and everything afterward will be inspected or seized. That hasn't been my experience.

The group I currently buy Indian meds from keeps packages at 500g or less. The idea is that this lowers scrutiny and suspicion. Since I started following that guideline, I'm pretty sure nothing has been seized.

I'll be honest: when I began ordering from India last year, I went completely overboard and ordered almost one of everything. I've got a shit-ton of crap I'll probably never use. These days I stick to one drug at a time and <500g. Losing my GE never even crossed my mind.

A lot of people will tell you to get a PO Box, but anonymous PO Boxes are a thing of the past. Apparently after 911 you cannot get a truly anonymous PO box because the USPS and private mailbox services (like The UPS Store) are required by law to collect valid photo identification and a verifiable, physical home address for security, anti-terrorism, and fraud prevention purposes.
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It's possible to obtain a PO box while keeping your identity concealed—it requires effort and someone who produces counterfeit documents known as NAMEDECLINED. At one time I had more than 40 across 3 states and never encountered any issues.
 
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