GHK-Cu (help!)

hazefred said:


If you don't establish healthy habits, you will inevitably return to your original weight once you stop taking GLPs.

GLPs are a tool that makes this process much easier.

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. . . and lots of people will regain at least some of the lost weight even if they maintain "healthy habits," because their metabolism are shit.

I'm curious why you use a GLP1 if you can just control yourself and use more calories than you eat most days?
 
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#1 - start low and slow. I titrated up to 4mg/day over 2 months. I do not cycle. I take a Zinc supplement when I think about it "just in case" since the information I gathered does not seem definitive. When I think about it = at most twice/week.

#2 - I pin in the side of my butt. 31g 8mm. Tons of bac (6ml, add more if I need it but usually don't).

#3 - Benefits are not permanent. Results are also not permanent with GLP-1/GIP for the majority of researchers who discontinue. There's a lot of conversation here about CICO.
 
hazefred said:


If you don't establish healthy habits, you will inevitably return to your original weight once you stop taking GLPs.

GLPs are a tool that makes this process much easier.

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It’s much more complicated than that. GLPs are a treatment for a chronic condition. Why would you ever stop taking them? This is not a vanity project for most.
 
Blueeyedme said:


It’s much more complicated than that. GLPs are a tool to treat a chronic condition, why would you ever stop taking them? This is not a vanity project for most.

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When it comes to people with chronic illnesses, I definitely agree with you!

But I'm sure that most of the people who use GLPs don't have chronic illnesses....

and for them, what I wrote definitely applies (myself included).
 
Redz said:


While some ownership is definitely necessary there is a metabolic change from coming off. Your metabolism will burn less calories when you come off. This is why so many gain weight. I’ve dropped 28lbs so far and I’m getting shredded even though I’m still 250lbs. I plan on staying on Reta for good. Too many health benefits.

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That’s what I said though, a few lbs is nothing, any meaningful weight put back on is the individuals fault, anyway to tie it back I was simply wondering if ghk cu is similar in the way Reta acts a a tool, can you implement skin care, whilst on ghkcu and maintain nice skin after stopping it - if you get what I mean
 
RENjutsu said:


Is a zinc supplement essential at all ranges also? Any info on the dose for that ?

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Generally, no there's no need for a Zn supplement. However, it's always a good idea to do a blood test for Cu anyway, even if the amount of Cu in a shot is <300ug. However, if you have Wilson's disease then it's a HUGE deal and Zn isn't really going to help, it'll kill you (slowly) anyway.

I started at 2mg and am now at 2.5mg GHK-Cu +1.25mg GHK-basic +0.25mg KPV. The basic pulls in excess Cu ions and I haven't had pain/bruising since. KPV helped a bit short term, but still left welts. I moved to 8mm needles (recommend a pen if you doing it daily) and still use what's left of my love handles.

I think if you look into Reta in particular you'll find that it's GCGR activation literally causes increased metabolism, thermogenisis, and fat burning so it directly violates the CO of CICO. Calories in body absorption and relative conversion to keytone/glycogen/glucose is also completely dependent on how much, what order, and when you eat foods and likely gut bacteria so that it's suspicious as well. Humans are not calorimeters and most people are simply terrible judges of both how much they exercise and their macros even with wearables, scales, and cameras.

If you don't need to lose more than 5% of your body weight, placebo effect will probably get you there just fine, with lower risk.
 
hazefred said:


When it comes to people with chronic illnesses, I definitely agree with you!

But I'm sure that most of the people who use GLPs don't have chronic illnesses....

and for them, what I wrote definitely applies (myself included).

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Obesity is a chronic condition.
 
HereKittyKitty said:


Obesity is a chronic condition.

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I’ve been overweight my whole life, but you wouldn’t believe it. Once I started exercising, eating healthier, moving more, and generally making better choices for my life… I lost weight. Crazy, right?

MOST (not all!!!) people just use that as an excuse.

But that’s just my personal opinion, and I can already feel the backlash coming my way.
 
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