GHK-CU 1st time dull sorness

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Did 1 pin GHK Cu last night around 23:00. 12un 2mg. Added extra BAC to avoid the sting. Room temp. One pin, SQ in stomach. Went slow. No burn, no sting, no nothing. Perf!! Went to sleep. Woke up to no bruising, welts, or itchiness. However a dull but very noticeable soreness roughly the size of my hand is lingering. Researched it and not much to find aside from one article saying it’s normal inflammation from copper charge. Anyways chillin with an ice pack. Trying to figure out if I wanna deal with dull achiness for months. Thoughts on a better pin spot? Maybe lower dose? Massage the area? Open to expert advice. Thank you!
 
look into mixing with some lido/epi or using sodium bicarbonate 8.4% to raise the ph up to around 7.5-8. should help. there are tons of posts in here talking about it. you should be able to do a quick search and find them.
 
john_askins said:


look into mixing with some lido/epi or using sodium bicarbonate 8.4% to raise the ph up to around 7.5-8. should help. there are tons of posts in here talking about it. you should be able to do a quick search and find them.

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Key Considerations for GHK-Cu Stability

  • Optimal pH Range: 4.5 – 7.4.
  • Unstable Conditions: Below pH 4 (too acidic) or above pH 9 (too basic) causes the peptide and copper to separate.
  • Formulation Stability: GHK-Cu is stable in water and within the 4.5–7.4 range for extended periods, but is susceptible to hydrolysis in extreme, especially basic, environments.
 
CNCCurrency said:


Key Considerations for GHK-Cu Stability

  • Optimal pH Range: 4.5 – 7.4.
  • Unstable Conditions: Below pH 4 (too acidic) or above pH 9 (too basic) causes the peptide and copper to separate.
  • Formulation Stability: GHK-Cu is stable in water and within the 4.5–7.4 range for extended periods, but is susceptible to hydrolysis in extreme, especially basic, environments.

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The pain you get is from the acidic pH level. Raising it helps dramatically. Or, as I mentioned you can add lido/epi and it numbs it. But for best results, many have been using SB to raise the pH to a comfortable level.
 
Cmoney said:


Did 1 pin GHK Cu last night around 23:00. 12un 2mg. Added extra BAC to avoid the sting. Room temp. One pin, SQ in stomach. Went slow. No burn, no sting, no nothing. Perf!! Went to sleep. Woke up to no bruising, welts, or itchiness. However a dull but very noticeable soreness roughly the size of my hand is lingering. Researched it and not much to find aside from one article saying it’s normal inflammation from copper charge. Anyways chillin with an ice pack. Trying to figure out if I wanna deal with dull achiness for months. Thoughts on a better pin spot? Maybe lower dose? Massage the area? Open to expert advice. Thank you!

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Had a similar thing, pinning in the glute fixed it for me
 
john_askins said:


The pain you get is from the acidic pH level. Raising it helps dramatically. Or, as I mentioned you can add lido/epi and it numbs it. But for best results, many have been using SB to raise the pH to a comfortable level.

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I have SB tablets, I can look for a solution. I do currently have acetic acid. Would that also be a fair contender? What would be the mix ratio. And assuming only to the pin not the vial
 
Cmoney said:


I have SB tablets, I can look for a solution. I do currently have acetic acid. Would that also be a fair contender? What would be the mix ratio. And assuming only to the pin not the vial

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Disregard the acetic acid. My brain isn’t braining today lol.
 
Yeah, it is an uncomfortable pin. I had issues pinning in my side, abdomen, and thigh. Someone mentioned to me they had good results pinning in the side of their butt. So, I added another 2ml to my reconned GHK-Cu and pinned. (I'd only pinned 3x before upping the back water so know meaningful delta in dosage strength.)

Occasionally I feel something later in the day but it's nothing meaningful or distracting.

I've also heard a numbing wipe before pinning and hitting the spot with a massager after lessens the spiciness.

Lots of good information here.
 
MeedzMoar said:


Yeah, it is an uncomfortable pin. I had issues pinning in my side, abdomen, and thigh. Someone mentioned to me they had good results pinning in the side of their butt. So, I added another 2ml to my reconned GHK-Cu and pinned. (I'd only pinned 3x before upping the back water so know meaningful delta in dosage strength.)

Occasionally I feel something later in the day but it's nothing meaningful or distracting.

I've also heard a numbing wipe before pinning and hitting the spot with a massager after lessens the spiciness.

Lots of good information here.

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Tons of good info. I will try again today SQ buttocks. But I’m dreading it 😭 yesterday with dull pain was crappy. Felt like I got kicked in stomach. Was super tired too. Oh well. Pain is beauty 🤷‍♀️
 
Cmoney said:


Tons of good info. I will try again today SQ buttocks. But I’m dreading it 😭 yesterday with dull pain was crappy. Felt like I got kicked in stomach. Was super tired too. Oh well. Pain is beauty 🤷‍♀️

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Side of the butt. I felt the same way.

My vanity is bigger than my trepidation to feel the discomfort again. 😂
 
Cmoney said:


Tons of good info. I will try again today SQ buttocks. But I’m dreading it 😭 yesterday with dull pain was crappy. Felt like I got kicked in stomach. Was super tired too. Oh well. Pain is beauty 🤷‍♀️

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Wish you luck! I definitely had better luck with glute pins, but my partner still had pain. I may be able to convince her to try again with the lid/epi addition, but she had bad pain from it 3 times so I'm not sure she'll be willing to try again 🙁
 
Alikron13 said:


Wish you luck! I definitely had better luck with glute pins, but my partner still had pain. I may be able to convince her to try again with the lid/epi addition, but she had bad pain from it 3 times so I'm not sure she'll be willing to try again 🙁

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If she is, 4th time was the lucky one for me. Try numbing wipes before pin and a massage gun post-pin. I hear that combo is very effective for some people.
 
john_askins said:


look into mixing with some lido/epi or using sodium bicarbonate 8.4% to raise the ph up to around 7.5-8. should help. there are tons of posts in here talking about it. you should be able to do a quick search and find them.

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Where the heck are you sourcing Lido/epi? Lidocaine is easy enough to find, but with epinephrine? Don't you have to hold a medical license for that?
 
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