Hi everyone, up to now my peptide use has only been for shedding pounds (reta), so I have no experience with the kind of “peptides that help you build muscle and stay lean while putting away 3-4k calories daily.” Any suggestions on what I should look into?
Gaining muscle while using peptides
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5byfive
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Peptides won't help you put on muscle. Steroids are what you're actually referring to. For most people, steering clear of those is the wiser move — better to just keep showing up and lifting the heavy round things.
Nate2plate
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Train with weights, stay hydrated, consume protein and fiber.
Do it again.
Do it again.
JohannesSweden77
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Exactly what that person said. (Whether they're a he or a she.)
Certain peptides can support your training — things like faster healing and GH release — but none of them will put on muscle on their own. I haven't tried any of those muscle-related peptides yet, though I intend to down the road. In the meantime, hitting the weights 4-5 times per week does the job. That's where you should begin, along with getting enough protein and kcal. Plenty of water. And make sure you rest.
Mochizuki0124
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Peptides may support recovery and repair signaling. The main drivers of muscle growth are still protein consumption, progressive overload, and recovery.
Meritocrat
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Assuming your gym sessions are productive and your protein intake is sufficient, these are compounds worth looking into and researching:-
ACE-031, ACE-083, ACVR2B-Fc, Follistatin-344, Follistatin-315, Follistatin (FLGR242), IGF-1 LR3, IGF-1 DES, MGF, PEG-MGF, etc. Pairing them with things such as BPC, TB500, KPV, GHK-Cu, HNG may boost recovery rates considerably, which lets you train more frequently. Still, the decision is yours. This is not advice.
TRT could be something to look into, it depends on how old you are. That said, peptides alone aren't going to build muscle for you. The only route that works is TRT paired with a protein-rich diet, plenty of weight training, sufficient sleep and a very clean way of eating. That's my take as a 50-year-old man.
deleted.user.27
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Look into HGH, Tesamorelin, Hexarelin, and similar options. Compounds like these can push your body toward producing additional growth. Add that on top of whichever testosterone you go with. Test stacks with basically anything. Just be careful with your dosing, seriously.
Like the majority of people here have already pointed out, peptides aren't going to add much muscle on their own. That said, my own experience with cjc+ipa has been faster recovery and improved sleep. Down the road that does translate into "more muscles", though the real driver is my eating, sleeping and training 3-4 times per week.
I'm just 4 weeks in, so ofc some of this is placebo. I had bloodwork done before I started, and I'll get another panel at the close of this "cycle". The plan is 16 weeks on, then at least 6-8 weeks off.
I'm just 4 weeks in, so ofc some of this is placebo. I had bloodwork done before I started, and I'll get another panel at the close of this "cycle". The plan is 16 weeks on, then at least 6-8 weeks off.
boshjosh88
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That's basically my approach too — I wasn't looking for something too aggressive. How are you planning your dosage? Right now I take 250mcg CJC & 250mcg IPA daily before bed, though I'm not entirely convinced that's the optimal choice
lastresort
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As others have pointed out, there is no such thing as an anabolic peptide. Even growth-hormone-releasing compounds such as sermorelin, ipamorelin, or tesamorelin will not build muscle. I gave them a shot, and although they do provide specific advantages, such as reducing visceral fat, you would be better served by anabolic steroids, testosterone at the very least.
The sole option that could potentially be of help is follistatin, a myostatin inhibitor, though it carries a risk of heart enlargement
The sole option that could potentially be of help is follistatin, a myostatin inhibitor, though it carries a risk of heart enlargement
I'm running 250/250 as well. Based on what I've come across, pushing the dose any higher doesn't seem to offer anything, and I haven't really found anyone claiming the opposite. My injection goes in right before bed. At the moment I follow 5on 2off, though I've been thinking about switching to every day.boshjosh88 said:
That's basically my approach too — I wasn't looking for something too aggressive. How are you planning your dosage? Right now I take 250mcg CJC & 250mcg IPA daily before bed, though I'm not entirely convinced that's the optimal choice
Opinions are split — some people say the 2off stretch is worthwhile, while others say it makes no difference.
boshjosh88
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Steroids are too harsh for my taste. A natural-looking physique and the kind of gains peptides provide suit me fine. I hit the gym nearly every day, and thanks to peptides (CJC/IPA & KLOW) my lifts are higher than they've ever been and I bounce back quicker too. That has to translate into muscle growth, I'm fairly confident
boshjosh88
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Splitting it into an evening shot plus a morning shot might bring advantages — I could move to that schedule in a few weeks, though honestly, who knows? My guess is nobody does. All I can say is that it's working for me. Alongside that, I take KLOW, which I also use in the morning (2.5/500/500/500).
reta-stacker
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Give circlitide or roundistatin a shot.
Calm Logic
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Naturally, nothing beats resistance training for this goal.
Beyond adding a GH peptide, two other options come to mind: HCG, which is a peptide that raises testosterone production in men, and boron taken orally as a supplement, which gives free testosterone a modest lift.
On top of that, I use oral Cialis at 5+ mg every day, since it supports nitric oxide levels and endothelial function:
Beyond adding a GH peptide, two other options come to mind: HCG, which is a peptide that raises testosterone production in men, and boron taken orally as a supplement, which gives free testosterone a modest lift.
On top of that, I use oral Cialis at 5+ mg every day, since it supports nitric oxide levels and endothelial function: