Best way to reconstitute.

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I take 10mg of Tirz each week, and I expect to increase to 12,5 and afterward 15mg. With 60mg vials, I'm wondering how much BAC would be ideal to put in — 2ml or 3ml? Has anyone here dealt with vials like these?
 
I recently moved up from 10mg to 12. When I used 3ml to mix a 60mg vial, each shot meant drawing 50 units. Now at 12 it'll be 60. That feels a bit absurd, so for my next mix I'll use 1.5ml, which brings each injection down to a more workable 30 units.

My pens max out at 60 units, and operating one with the plunger extended that far, using only one hand while the other pinches skin, is fairly awkward. Especially since I'm clumsy by nature…
 
For my 60mg vials, I use 2.4ml of bac water when reconstituting. That means 10 units on an insulin syringe equals 2.5mg. Once I move into the 10mg+ range, I'm not certain how I'll handle it, but since I use 1ml syringes, drawing 60 units for a 15mg dose should still be workable.
 
deluge said:

I recently moved up from 10mg to 12. When I used 3ml to mix a 60mg vial, each shot meant drawing 50 units. Now at 12 it'll be 60. That feels a bit absurd, so for my next mix I'll use 1.5ml, which brings each injection down to a more workable 30 units.

My pens max out at 60 units, and operating one with the plunger extended that far, using only one hand while the other pinches skin, is fairly awkward. Especially since I'm clumsy by nature…

+1. a few weeks back i bumped up to 10mg, and at the concentration i'm running now that meant 50 units per pin. for the next 60mg vial i'm thinking 1.5ml so the volume isn't so large.

i've also considered dropping all the way to 1ml, though i rarely come across anyone using that little, so i'm unsure whether it might cause problems.
 
  1. Get a third-party test done so you know what is really inside those 60mg vials.
  2. Locate numbered marks on the syringe that scale in proportion to the titration plan you have in mind, preferably falling somewhere from 10 to 40 units.
  3. Use a reverse calculator for the math, rather than the standard peptides calculator.
  4. Add an odd, non-round quantity of bacteriostatic water when reconstituting.
 
BNLFL said:

A 10mg pin takes 3ml of BAC, which works out at 6 shots of 50 units.

For 15mg the same 3ml of BAC gives you 4 shots at 75 units. Or put it into 5ml vials instead and use more BAC.
Thanks! That matches what I first figured. For the first vial, 10mg doses are certainly what I'd use it for. On top of that, I've settled on injecting every 5 days, which means a 60mg vial lasts exactly 30 days, and a bit less once I raise the dose. Getting 60mg feels like a solid choice.
 
fatjacked said:

deluge said:

I recently moved up from 10mg to 12. When I used 3ml to mix a 60mg vial, each shot meant drawing 50 units. Now at 12 it'll be 60. That feels a bit absurd, so for my next mix I'll use 1.5ml, which brings each injection down to a more workable 30 units.

My pens max out at 60 units, and operating one with the plunger extended that far, using only one hand while the other pinches skin, is fairly awkward. Especially since I'm clumsy by nature…

+1. a few weeks back i bumped up to 10mg, and at the concentration i'm running now that meant 50 units per pin. for the next 60mg vial i'm thinking 1.5ml so the volume isn't so large.

i've also considered dropping all the way to 1ml, though i rarely come across anyone using that little, so i'm unsure whether it might cause problems.
That matches my thinking too. Having to inject a smaller volume has to be preferable. Could anyone weigh in on whether using 1ml would be a good or bad idea?

indolent said:

  1. Get a third-party test done so you know what is really inside those 60mg vials.
  2. Locate numbered marks on the syringe that scale in proportion to the titration plan you have in mind, preferably falling somewhere from 10 to 40 units.
  3. Use a reverse calculator for the math, rather than the standard peptides calculator.
  4. Add an odd, non-round quantity of bacteriostatic water when reconstituting.
The idea of using a non-round bac amount never crossed my mind. That's clever. I'd just have to jot that number down afterward, otherwise I'd definitely forget it. Is there a reverse calculator you'd recommend? There are plenty of options available.
 
JohannesSweden77 said:

fatjacked said:

deluge said:

I recently moved up from 10mg to 12. When I used 3ml to mix a 60mg vial, each shot meant drawing 50 units. Now at 12 it'll be 60. That feels a bit absurd, so for my next mix I'll use 1.5ml, which brings each injection down to a more workable 30 units.

My pens max out at 60 units, and operating one with the plunger extended that far, using only one hand while the other pinches skin, is fairly awkward. Especially since I'm clumsy by nature…

+1. a few weeks back i bumped up to 10mg, and at the concentration i'm running now that meant 50 units per pin. for the next 60mg vial i'm thinking 1.5ml so the volume isn't so large.

i've also considered dropping all the way to 1ml, though i rarely come across anyone using that little, so i'm unsure whether it might cause problems.
That matches my thinking too. Having to inject a smaller volume has to be preferable. Could anyone weigh in on whether using 1ml would be a good or bad idea?

indolent said:

  1. Get a third-party test done so you know what is really inside those 60mg vials.
  2. Locate numbered marks on the syringe that scale in proportion to the titration plan you have in mind, preferably falling somewhere from 10 to 40 units.
  3. Use a reverse calculator for the math, rather than the standard peptides calculator.
  4. Add an odd, non-round quantity of bacteriostatic water when reconstituting.
The idea of using a non-round bac amount never crossed my mind. That's clever. I'd just have to jot that number down afterward, otherwise I'd definitely forget it. Is there a reverse calculator you'd recommend? There are plenty of options available.
The sole one I'm aware of is the link in my signature (turn your phone sideways if it isn't visible). To restate: a batch may contain up to 30% extra ... find out the true mass.
 
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