Ayooooo let's discuss maintenance or "life after weightloss"

You can't just convert it. Say you're aiming for 15lbs of muscle — at that point you'd need to shift focus for a while and eat more, putting yourself in a slight surplus. Once you've put in the hard work for as long as it takes to hit that target, you'd shift focus again and drop the extra body fat pounds that built up during the surplus phase.
 
BNLFL said:

Once I drop about 5lbs, I'll be right there with you. This annoying belly fat isn't going anywhere unless I start working out. Plus, I've got dumbbells sitting around that I really ought to put to use.
Dude... You've got dumbbells sitting there and you never touched them? Hand over the controller.

fukuz said:

Thee Oohwee said:

Waddup pepper fam.

46, male, 5'11", 178lbs currently.

Reta 10mg is what I'm running, and I'll stick with it another 3 months. Roughly 15lbs is what I'd like to turn into lean muscle mass. Gym 5x/week, and daily I'm getting in as much protein as I can. Still, there's a final target I have in mind, and I want to talk through various strategies.

For maintenance, dropping to a smaller Reta dose isn't something I want. And quitting abruptly, so to speak, isn't appealing either.

Going back to Tirz at 5mg/week for maintenance and just riding it on out til the wheels fall off is what I'm considering.

What do y'all suggest? For those who've moved into maintenance and kept a healthy weight, what has worked for y'all?
So from what I'm reading in this thread... nobody actually quits reta/tiz entirely without adding some other compound in?
Typically, not unless you put back on 20-30lbs.
 
RadicalCrimson said:

Thee Oohwee said:

Waddup pepper fam.

46, male, 5'11", 178lbs currently.

Reta 10mg is what I'm running, and I'll stick with it another 3 months. Roughly 15lbs is what I'd like to turn into lean muscle mass. Gym 5x/week, and daily I'm getting in as much protein as I can. Still, there's a final target I have in mind, and I want to talk through various strategies.

For maintenance, dropping to a smaller Reta dose isn't something I want. And quitting abruptly, so to speak, isn't appealing either.

Going back to Tirz at 5mg/week for maintenance and just riding it on out til the wheels fall off is what I'm considering.

What do y'all suggest? For those who've moved into maintenance and kept a healthy weight, what has worked for y'all?
What's stopping me?

Having just hit my target using reta+cagri, I find myself pondering the very same thing.

Tirz on its own took off the bulk of my pounds, so returning to that is an option—yet what reason is there to give up the glucagon agonist?

Right now my protocol is 7mg reta every 3.5 days alongside 1.7mg cagri every 7 days, so the simplest long-term approach seems to be reducing reta to 1x/week and stacking a second compound 3 days afterward, also 1x/week:

  1. Reta 7-8mg + tirz 7-8mg
  2. Reta 7-8mg + eloralintide 1mg (I have a kit on the way)
  3. Reta 7-8mg + cagri 1mg
  4. Zepbound (tirz auto-injector) 15mg 1x/week (I have a stash and keep buying it, because my insurance still covers it, and that's what I tell doctors)
Tirz just treats me a bit more gently. Fewer stomach problems. It quiets food noise more effectively.
 
44M. Down 60lbs, and I've been in maintenance mode for roughly 4 weeks now. Currently taking 1mg of Reta every 5 days. Right now, things feel pretty good.
 
CMA Pooky said:

BNLFL said:

Once I drop about 5lbs, I'll be right there with you. This annoying belly fat isn't going anywhere unless I start working out. Plus, I've got dumbbells sitting around that I really ought to put to use.
Are you taking Tesa along with Ipa?
I'm maintaining on 2mg tirz/week. Tesa and ipa aren't part of my routine. Instead, I take 350mcg/day of ipa+cjc1295 No Dac. Initially I split it into 2 shots daily of 175mcg. That brought the hunger back, though. Eventually I landed on a fix that works. One injection at 5 AM before work, then nothing to eat until 12 PM. Around 9-10AM hunger shows up. I simply push through it. When the food noise gets too loud, I just crank the music up louder in my truck 🤣. Eventually it fades. That's when I figure it's pulling energy from the last few kg of belly fat. My meal is between 12 and 12:30 PM. Only proteins and salade. The rest of the day I have a few small portions and no issues. I'm still dropping roughly 1/2kg each week and currently weigh 76,5 kg. I also train for an hour every 2 days. Weight lifting without going to failure plus exercises targeting my belly fat. Slow but steady progress. In 8,5 months I lost 24,5kg on 5mg tirz/week and never titrated up.
 
The amount of weight you dropped isn't something you brought up, and that detail matters a lot. When someone's starting point was severe obesity, then sure, going with low doses to hold steady is worth a shot — though honestly, the dose that got the weight off is far more probable to be effective than a smaller one. That said, as long as you don't drag things out and regain a bunch while testing lower amounts before going back up, it's a fairly low-risk thing to try. For those who began with severe obesity, sticking with higher doses over the long haul is likely the smarter route for lowering risk across a range of conditions down the road. If the baseline was overweight or less severe obesity, the logic doesn't really change. According to the evidence, whatever dose produced the loss is the one to remain on — yet plenty of folks in this forum have pulled it off using smaller doses. Keeping the weight off over years is the tough bit, but it's also what counts most for your health going forward.
 
GLP medications seem to tackle what's actually driving obesity at its core — things like overeating, food noise, sugar cravings, alcohol addiction, emotional eating. When you compare a person who's naturally thin and never gives food a second thought to someone dealing with a relentless urge to eat or to reach for bad food choices, what you're seeing is a physical or mental problem underneath, not just weak willpower. Quit the glp drug and you're basically rolling out the welcome mat for the very issue that made you obese to begin with. So if a person has battled this their whole life and finally gotten somewhere thanks to reta or tirz, quitting should be off the table... their body and brain require it. And that's fine. There's no shame in taking a "supplement" when something is deficient. Pinning yourself to remain fit beats pinning yourself with insulin because you're diabetic and in rough shape.
 
Thee Oohwee said:

Waddup pepper fam.

46, male, 5'11", 178lbs currently.

Reta 10mg is what I'm running, and I'll stick with it another 3 months. Roughly 15lbs is what I'd like to turn into lean muscle mass. Gym 5x/week, and daily I'm getting in as much protein as I can. Still, there's a final target I have in mind, and I want to talk through various strategies.

For maintenance, dropping to a smaller Reta dose isn't something I want. And quitting abruptly, so to speak, isn't appealing either.

Going back to Tirz at 5mg/week for maintenance and just riding it on out til the wheels fall off is what I'm considering.

What do y'all suggest? For those who've moved into maintenance and kept a healthy weight, what has worked for y'all?

Thee Oohwee said:

endlrls said:

That jump in resting heart rate from Reta worries me... That cat photo is great!
Much appreciated!! That creature represents me perfectly.
Haha.... I've got the Michelin Man thing going on
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:

fukuz said:

Thee Oohwee said:

Waddup pepper fam.

46, male, 5'11", 178lbs currently.

Reta 10mg is what I'm running, and I'll stick with it another 3 months. Roughly 15lbs is what I'd like to turn into lean muscle mass. Gym 5x/week, and daily I'm getting in as much protein as I can. Still, there's a final target I have in mind, and I want to talk through various strategies.

For maintenance, dropping to a smaller Reta dose isn't something I want. And quitting abruptly, so to speak, isn't appealing either.

Going back to Tirz at 5mg/week for maintenance and just riding it on out til the wheels fall off is what I'm considering.

What do y'all suggest? For those who've moved into maintenance and kept a healthy weight, what has worked for y'all?
So from what I'm reading in this thread... nobody actually quits reta/tiz entirely without adding some other compound in?
A few people do manage it.

Take me, for instance: I'm down more than 100 pounds. Right now I'm pausing glp1s because of a medical.procedure, and my appetite is screaming at me to eat EVERYTHING. Whether you can handle it comes down to willpower and personal strength. If you're able to pick the right foods and portions while off glp1s, then more power to you.

The thing is, a lot of folks on this site have..... complicated relationships with food and with choosing what to eat, and they rely on that crutch. I'm one of them. At this moment I'm clearly not making smart choices and I'm eating stuff I hadn't touched in almost a year.
That's got me a little spooked.. On June 24th I've got a procedure lined up, and tomorrow I'm going to pin my final Tirz shot, then once the surgery is done.... Oh Boy... Is the Food Noise something I should be afraid of?? 😅😅
 
I've hit my goal weight, and honestly I'm kind of lost about the next step. Just to test things out, I skipped my injection this past week — and wow, I was starving, so that clearly isn't the way to go. At this point I figure I'm probably in it for life. It'd be nice if I could lower the dose somewhat, or perhaps move over to tirz, but I genuinely enjoy the reta, so sticking with it makes sense. After so many years of being obese, I'm not going to suddenly hold steady all by myself. Who knows — maybe down the road my set weight brain problem will improve and I can stop? idk. time will tell I guess.
 
A full year has passed since I hit my target, and I've stayed there on 8mg Tirz/week, taken as a split dose.

Now and then, when cravings get a bit much, I'll add a genuine tiny amount of .13mg Sema for extra support.

On other weeks, if I feel like letting loose and enjoying myself, I drop my Tirz dose down to 2.5-3mg.
 
Once you've hit your goal weight, dropping the weight loss medication isn't a smart move. Drugs such as reta deliver benefits that go beyond slimming — they serve longevity and biohacking goals too. Yes, appetite gets suppressed, but on top of that you gain better insulin sensitivity, burn extra calories while resting, and enjoy improved metabolic health overall. That's why, even at goal weight, a modest maintenance dose can do a lot of work: it helps keep you from rebounding, and ideally the good eating patterns built during the weight loss phase mean that while on maintenance, food and nutrition stay trouble-free. Staying on offers more advantages than coming off. Another plus — your head is no longer cluttered with thoughts about food.
 
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