wonttellyou
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Has anyone here tried it and noticed muscle mass gains purely from that? Do you stack it with anything? Did your heart enlarge?
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Coming off what?Meritocrat said:
I've run it twice, each time for 6 weeks, with 2 months off in between. During that break I did a Sust cycle alongside igf-1DES. I gained 12kgs. My arms reached 20inches, and my forearms hit 15.5inches. The pump and vascularity were crazy.
My own shots went subq, apart from the arms, where it ended up being IM without me meaning it to.dancs said:
@Smiter is the person to ask when it comes to PEG-MGF.
From what I gathered looking into it a bit, the feedback tends to be positive overall.
For some people, the one downside is that it has to be injected IM, which stings more than the subq shots they're used to.
Separate question: my V4 pen arrived, but the liquid comes out really slowly. Does that happen normally?
That's true, though from what I hear, IM is where it delivers the best results.wonttellyou said:
Doesn't that just come with the territory?
What I believe you're getting at is whether it acts system-wide, and that's fair — it can be largely system-wide, provided we're talking about a long half-life variant such as PEG-MGF, in which case the answer is yes. With DES, on the other hand, the approach is to pin it directly into the muscle group you just trained, so that as much of it as possible gets used by the receptors and cells in that region, and given a half-life of just 30 minutes, that should be enough for it to do its job.wonttellyou said:
Doesn't that just come with the territory?
Not in my case... since its half life runs 48-72 hours, my peg-mgf goes subq into the belly... as for igf-1 des, that one I pin locally ahead of training... the point being to get the most anabolic signaling possible across that 30 minute half lifewonttellyou said:
Isn't the timing supposed to be immediately post-workout? I keep seeing contradictory stuff about this!
At any time you feel like it?wonttellyou said:
At what point do you have your shake?