Draculawless
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I am, though it doesn't go far enough.
About 2 slices of pizza is my limit before I feel awful. Normally that would take at least double the amount. So something is shifting, it's just a matter of getting things going.
12mg Reta - Moving at a Snail's Pace
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Draculawless
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I think that's likely where I'm going wrong. Tracking what I eat isn't something I've wanted to do, but I need to start.
Prodigy217
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To give it a shot, I picked up product from 3 separate vendors. Once I bumped up to 6mg, there was a slight drop in my appetite. Semaglutide and Tirzepatide are both things I've taken before, and each of them delivered results for me. What got in the way with those was insurance coverage and staying consistent. So when I chose to take this path, I figured I'd give Reta a go given how much praise it gets. Now, though, it feels like I'm getting nowhere. 12 weeks have passed and there's nothing to show for it. I'm leaning toward switching back to Tirz, but getting it through gray so the cost is actually manageable.
Prodigy217
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Nope, calorie counting isn't something I do, and honestly it doesn't seem like I'm eating a ton. Though I could be wrong. Here's the thing: back when I used Sema and Tirz, tracking wasn't necessary either, and the weight started coming off in just the first 2 weeks on each. So I figured Reta would follow the same pattern...It didn't.
Prodigy217
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You're right, and I realize it's a lazy approach. My reasoning was that tracking wasn't necessary before, so why now? Given that this one is supposedly the top-tier GLP, I assumed my results would mirror what happened with the previous ones.
Hawk_recon
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Reta definitely behaves unlike the others. For me, there was zero appetite suppression while on Reta, and after just a few weeks it completely quit doing anything. Tirz has worked out better in my case. That said, whenever someone isn't dropping weight, the very first thing they ought to do is track everything meticulously (sauces, dressings, and so on included) for a few weeks. 100% that will expose what's actually going on.
Draculawless
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Gray sema was something I'd also used, going as high as 2.4, and the effects were unmistakable for me. With this, the whole thing just comes across as "meh." Nobody's claiming it's a miracle drug, but compared to the sema I was running, the impact so far has been weaker. And again, every single review of the source looks amazing and comes with testing to back it up. Perhaps it simply isn't effective in my case. Perhaps tirz would be the smarter route.Prodigy217 said:
To give it a shot, I picked up product from 3 separate vendors. Once I bumped up to 6mg, there was a slight drop in my appetite. Semaglutide and Tirzepatide are both things I've taken before, and each of them delivered results for me. What got in the way with those was insurance coverage and staying consistent. So when I chose to take this path, I figured I'd give Reta a go given how much praise it gets. Now, though, it feels like I'm getting nowhere. 12 weeks have passed and there's nothing to show for it. I'm leaning toward switching back to Tirz, but getting it through gray so the cost is actually manageable.
Prodigy217
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Thanks for sharing your perspective. I believe returning to Tirz is the best option for me.
Prodigy217
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It's a letdown for us, but at least I now realize I'm not the only one. lol.
JoonyO
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Reta is not equivalent in effect to those 2. Based on what earlier users have consistently reported, the pattern looks like this: when someone said "RETA IS GREAT!", that person had never taken Tirz or Sema. When someone asked "Why isn't Reta working for me!?", that person had already used 1 of them, or both.
Hawk_recon
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I fall into that unusual group who began with Reta, and for roughly 3-4 weeks it was effective for me. After that, it felt as though something switched, and regardless of how much I increased the dose as time passed, it produced no effect at all except a significant rise in my resting heart rate, while my HRV dropped considerably. The more I look into this, the clearer it becomes that responses to these peptides vary greatly from person to person. That's exactly why reading guidance is valuable for everyone, yet equally important is paying attention to your own body and making decisions tailored to you. Our bodies are wonderfully intricate and one-of-a-kind systems.
woundcarping
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Did your HRV increase?
Hawk_recon
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Nice spot! I actually meant it dropped, and dropped significantly
I've gone back and revised my earlier wording so it's clearer. Appreciate you catching thatlastresort
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A number of you treat calories in versus calories out as though it were some infallible formula for pinpointing where a person's habits went wrong...if that held true, not a single one of us would need GLP1 or any other weight loss medication
Getting older wreaks a cruel havoc on metabolism, and a steep calorie deficit may leave your basal metabolic expenditure permanently damaged, as a case study of "fattest fat loser" participants showed. It's completely plausible that OP's basal enetgy expenditure is simply that low, whether from age or some other cause. Maybe it's thyroid, maybe it's cushing, or maybe it's just a temporary metabolic shift brought on by the severe deficit.
Getting older wreaks a cruel havoc on metabolism, and a steep calorie deficit may leave your basal metabolic expenditure permanently damaged, as a case study of "fattest fat loser" participants showed. It's completely plausible that OP's basal enetgy expenditure is simply that low, whether from age or some other cause. Maybe it's thyroid, maybe it's cushing, or maybe it's just a temporary metabolic shift brought on by the severe deficit.
Hawk_recon
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Yet, well, GLP1s basically allow you to consume fewer calories with less effort, which makes dropping weight simpler. So...
lastresort
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OP also mentioned that his weight loss isn't matching what most people here experience. And the general agreement in this community is that retatrutide's appetite suppression isn't as potent as the first two drugs. It really shouldn't be hard to accept that glp1 simply doesn't produce good results for certain groups of people.Hawk_recon said:
Yet, well, GLP1s basically allow you to consume fewer calories with less effort, which makes dropping weight simpler. So...
I'm kind of in the same situation as OP, though in my case I have low testosterone plus hashimotos, two long-term conditions that seriously damage overall metabolism. No idea what OP is dealing with.
Hawk_recon
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I'd wager a significant sum that cutting calories even more would result in additional weight loss. That said, your point about Reta providing weaker appetite suppression is likely spot on, which means it's simpler to consume extra calories without realizing it.lastresort said:
OP also mentioned that his weight loss isn't matching what most people here experience. And the general agreement in this community is that retatrutide's appetite suppression isn't as potent as the first two drugs. It really shouldn't be hard to accept that glp1 simply doesn't produce good results for certain groups of people.Hawk_recon said:
Yet, well, GLP1s basically allow you to consume fewer calories with less effort, which makes dropping weight simpler. So...
I'm kind of in the same situation as OP, though in my case I have low testosterone plus hashimotos, two long-term conditions that seriously damage overall metabolism. No idea what OP is dealing with.
woundcarping
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This remains CICO... when CO drops due to some cause or justification, CI has to be modified if fat loss is the goal. Medical conditions may lower metabolic rate, increase appetite, or cause water retention, yet they are unable to override thermodynamics.
lastresort said:
OP also mentioned that his weight loss isn't matching what most people here experience. And the general agreement in this community is that retatrutide's appetite suppression isn't as potent as the first two drugs. It really shouldn't be hard to accept that glp1 simply doesn't produce good results for certain groups of people.Hawk_recon said:
Yet, well, GLP1s basically allow you to consume fewer calories with less effort, which makes dropping weight simpler. So...
I'm kind of in the same situation as OP, though in my case I have low testosterone plus hashimotos, two long-term conditions that seriously damage overall metabolism. No idea what OP is dealing with.
Hashimoto's and low T are surprisingly straightforward to address, for the majority of men.
Hawk_recon
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That common claim about "age, metabolism, and so on" has been shown to be false. Research on a large scale came out not long ago demonstrating that metabolic rate really doesn't decline meaningfully as you get older until you've passed your 60s! So for a lot of people, that turns out to be nothing more than a convenient justification. https://health.osu.edu/wellness/aging/does-metabolism-really-slow-down-with-age
For a more thorough look, here's the study itself:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abe5017
For a more thorough look, here's the study itself:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abe5017