SimpleTex
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Peter Magic from Janoshik stated today that they have performed over 12k tests and have found 798 Zero Peps this month.
Zero Peps/ Bunk Kits
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Skidude
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is there somewhere this is posted?
any idea on the breakdown of peps; did he mention?
FartfulCodger
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If this is true, I'd pay for a list of offending vendors from him. Sick of these vendors who destroy faith in what could be a thriving market.
European
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That's over 6.6%... Damn...
eidos
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Yes, but...
He mentioned it briefly in the lab tour video. It came from resellers who were testing new sources.
That’s not the same as the risk of receiving an empty bottle in an order.
I agree with paying PM for stats by vendor. It would bring him extra revenue without any lab work. Does anyone have a way to suggest the idea to him?
Skidude
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I would like to see this latest video, if there is one from this months totals.
But I did see the one you mention where it was primarily vendors searching for new sources.
SimpleTex
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Here is a link to failed tests. Mind you, it doesn't provide any information. He has to maintain his clients right to privacy.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VxKLbWqLiZG_T01AqxoQIXmbEgtQpIQMS0vNWWFIqQM/edit?usp=drivesdk
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VxKLbWqLiZG_T01AqxoQIXmbEgtQpIQMS0vNWWFIqQM/edit?usp=drivesdk
SimpleTex
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My comment wasn't from a video. It was from a discussion today.
bamagirl26
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thank you for sharing link. I was focused mostly on Tz, but interesting that the most fails of Tz were because of overfill. I just started a new vial of a compounded pharmacy Tz yesterday, It didnt have any additives, just straight Tz and I def feel it less strong than last weeks even tho I bumped up a bit. I wonder if the pharmacy reconned a 90% fill or something. I will probs bump up a little more next week. Then again, I may just be hungry!!
Tirzmonkey
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I made the mistake of ordering through Global Sources and got burned for 681 dollars. The agent even reshipped it with more bunk product. I think the vendor was a reshipper who didn’t know what they were shipping because they went to great lengths in an attempt to make it right when they could have just ghosted me and that would have been the end of it.
But yeah it has me rethinking the whole grey thing. Problem is compounding is going away in my opinion and the only other choice is to be extorted by Eli Lilly.
I am going to try again with either Andy Peps or ERP and hope for a better result.
But yeah it has me rethinking the whole grey thing. Problem is compounding is going away in my opinion and the only other choice is to be extorted by Eli Lilly.
I am going to try again with either Andy Peps or ERP and hope for a better result.
jpru2001
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So far nothing but good experience with APS. There is a good telegram for APS and a good group testing APS group with open exchange between both the main APS feed that is run by the vendor and the group testing thread. (Don't think this breaks the shilling rules, if so I apologize)
DunningKruger
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Does he need another purple Lamborghini?
I jest. It would be a valuable shit list until leaked.
keangkong
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He won’t name vendors who came to him to have the stuff tested. He wants to keep their business. And they’re doing the right thing by having it tested.
CNCCurrency
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I doubt he needs the money, he also has contracts with pharma and the govt something about water testing I think?DunningKruger said:
Does he need another purple Lamborghini?
I jest. It would be a valuable shit list until leaked.
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RetCurious
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It's discussed by Peter and Dustin (Vanguard Labs) in the TG AI Regurgitation Station channel under Lab Chat which is an absolute gold mine of data and information from people in the major labs that deal with grey market products.
PopTart
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That google doc is from Vanguard, not Jano. Regardless, Vanguard has seen an uptick in “non detect” results in the past month.
There’s a post from Peter/Jano over on peppys where he has concluded that these are bunk raws likely from a single mfr as there was a common wavelength amongst the zero peps.
As the raws pass to finishers and on down through the distribution channels, the instances of zero peps sent out for testing can grow exponentially.
Ideally, the problem is nipped in the bud before it reaches the customer, but those who have been in this space for a couple of years know that doesn’t always happen. And that’s why testing is important.