Which ab movements build the most impressive core?

DrPEPr said:


lol, are you Chat-GPTing me?

Look, it's not worthless for the traps, but definitely not the best either.

Shrugs outclass the FW for trap isolation.

FW's are a nice compound movement.

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Isometric work is something I trust a lot for building development, though I can see where you're coming from.

When it comes to traps, my go-to has always been clean pulls taken off the rack.

Olympic lifts also seem to widen my upper body considerably, and I suspect that's mostly because of the pulling action involved in cleans and snatches.

The overhead pressing portion might play a role too.
 
A clean pull combines a deadlift with a shrug, meaning it works for lats too — yet it remains a compound lift. It's certainly not a poor choice, though when measured against isolation work, the stimulus-to-fatigue ratio isn't as favorable.

The same logic applies to every 'olympic lift'. They're excellent for building general strength and athleticism, but they don't serve bodybuilders who want to target one specific muscle.

That being said. If you push these movements with enough intensity, you will definitely see substantial growth...
 
DrPEPr said:

A clean pull combines a deadlift with a shrug, meaning it works for lats too — yet it remains a compound lift. It's certainly not a poor choice, though when measured against isolation work, the stimulus-to-fatigue ratio isn't as favorable.

The same logic applies to every 'olympic lift'. They're excellent for building general strength and athleticism, but they don't serve bodybuilders who want to target one specific muscle.

That being said. If you push these movements with enough intensity, you will definitely see substantial growth...
When it comes to isolation moves that are easy on the joints, the problem is that without gear, you barely grow at all.

That's how it works for me, anyway.

To actually get results, I have to rely on heavy compound lifts.

Even the cable pull machines barely make a difference in my case.
 
PeptideConsumer said:

DrPEPr said:

A clean pull combines a deadlift with a shrug, meaning it works for lats too — yet it remains a compound lift. It's certainly not a poor choice, though when measured against isolation work, the stimulus-to-fatigue ratio isn't as favorable.

The same logic applies to every 'olympic lift'. They're excellent for building general strength and athleticism, but they don't serve bodybuilders who want to target one specific muscle.

That being said. If you push these movements with enough intensity, you will definitely see substantial growth...
When it comes to isolation moves that are easy on the joints, the problem is that without gear, you barely grow at all.

That's how it works for me, anyway.

To actually get results, I have to rely on heavy compound lifts.

Even the cable pull machines barely make a difference in my case.
If you use the full cable stack, you'll get some kind of result.
 
PeptideConsumer said:

DrPEPr said:

A clean pull combines a deadlift with a shrug, meaning it works for lats too — yet it remains a compound lift. It's certainly not a poor choice, though when measured against isolation work, the stimulus-to-fatigue ratio isn't as favorable.

The same logic applies to every 'olympic lift'. They're excellent for building general strength and athleticism, but they don't serve bodybuilders who want to target one specific muscle.

That being said. If you push these movements with enough intensity, you will definitely see substantial growth...
When it comes to isolation moves that are easy on the joints, the problem is that without gear, you barely grow at all.

That's how it works for me, anyway.

To actually get results, I have to rely on heavy compound lifts.

Even the cable pull machines barely make a difference in my case.

this is something plenty of others deal with too 🙂

as for what you asked at the start, when landmines are available to you, Landmine Core Rotation has been giving me fantastic results. What makes it great is how it works your entire core from every angle, 360 degrees.

Here's a clip that shows it pretty well:

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Onoi70cI1Yg
 
Leg raises

Cable crunches with added weight

Planks

Stomach vacuums (targets the transverse abdominals)

^^ these are the only movements you will ever require
 
wonttellyou said:

Leg Raises

Dragon Flags

Cable Crunches

Plus that self blowjob machine now and then
That piece of equipment is great—give me another 2 weeks and I'll definitely have it down.

There's a saying about showing someone how to fish...
 
miameow said:

After spending time with weighted resistance work, calisthenics, and yoga, my experience is that a cut midsection comes from combining several approaches rather than relying on 1 method. The leanest, tightest waist I get happens when stomach vacuums are part of my routine — uddiyana bandha, as yogis call it. For roughly the last 10 years bodybuilding has been my main focus, yet my waist was never tighter than during the period when I was a dedicated yogi centered on calisthenics and performed vacuums every day.
Is a stomach vacuum essentially pulling your belly in and holding it super tight the whole time?
 
Indiana said:

miameow said:

After spending time with weighted resistance work, calisthenics, and yoga, my experience is that a cut midsection comes from combining several approaches rather than relying on 1 method. The leanest, tightest waist I get happens when stomach vacuums are part of my routine — uddiyana bandha, as yogis call it. For roughly the last 10 years bodybuilding has been my main focus, yet my waist was never tighter than during the period when I was a dedicated yogi centered on calisthenics and performed vacuums every day.
Is a stomach vacuum essentially pulling your belly in and holding it super tight the whole time?
Pretty much, though there is more intention involved than simply pulling your stomach in. You breathe all the way out, and then pull the abdominal wall in and up as hard as possible, holding that position. Picture the navel moving toward the spine and upward beneath the ribs.

The main target is the transverse abdominis, a deep core muscle that works somewhat like a corset wrapped around your midsection, which makes the sensation quite unlike ordinary ab bracing. Lying on your back with knees bent and feet flat on the floor is a good way to really feel and switch on this muscle while you practice.
 
When did working out turn into such a complicated thing? Or is it simply another scheme to profit off guys who feel bad about how they look?

Anyway, here's my answer: go get liposuction, then crank out more than 9000 ab crunches
 
miameow said:

Indiana said:

miameow said:

After spending time with weighted resistance work, calisthenics, and yoga, my experience is that a cut midsection comes from combining several approaches rather than relying on 1 method. The leanest, tightest waist I get happens when stomach vacuums are part of my routine — uddiyana bandha, as yogis call it. For roughly the last 10 years bodybuilding has been my main focus, yet my waist was never tighter than during the period when I was a dedicated yogi centered on calisthenics and performed vacuums every day.
Is a stomach vacuum essentially pulling your belly in and holding it super tight the whole time?
Pretty much, though there is more intention involved than simply pulling your stomach in. You breathe all the way out, and then pull the abdominal wall in and up as hard as possible, holding that position. Picture the navel moving toward the spine and upward beneath the ribs.

The main target is the transverse abdominis, a deep core muscle that works somewhat like a corset wrapped around your midsection, which makes the sensation quite unlike ordinary ab bracing. Lying on your back with knees bent and feet flat on the floor is a good way to really feel and switch on this muscle while you practice.
But I'm going to give this a shot!
 
Kettlebell pullover performed from a kneeling position

Kettlebell circling the body into an uppercut

Kettlebell halo movement

Kettlebell chopping motion like a sword

Kettlebell iron trident exercise
 
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