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Honestly, that kind of talk wears me out.AriaKbye said:
When obesity and the major health issues that come with it get dismissed as not a real problem, and you hear advice like ''cut the carbs, cut the sweets, run a little'' from people who have no idea what the struggle is actually like. Then, the moment we take real action, the response becomes ''you cheat, you have a dr*g problem and all that jazz''.
Right, it gets old fast.lessthanhalf said:
Not being able to get any of my relatives to try them, even though several of them clearly could use the help. My son carries extra weight, barely moves at all, and his BMI sits in the low 30's. Another relative who used to be overweight is now in their 50's and prediabetic.
Oh my god.... exactly. They do all of that with zero scientific backing, yet they turn around and wave off each and every study that shows they're mistaken, and they've got no real proof for it either.spanky2026 said:
That never-ending chorus of comments along the lines of, "Sure, you dropped a bunch of weight, but just you wait — 10 years from now that injection will hand you cancer." I hear this alllllll the time.
And then there's what others have already pointed out: the moment a genuinely effective obesity treatment exists — one that leaves people undeniably healthier and delivers benefits in 100 ways beyond simply shedding pounds — insurance companies suddenly can't distance themselves from it fast enough. Hmmmm, it's almost as though our health was never actually their concern.![]()
This!HouseCat said:
Insurance companies and Big Pharma really get under my skin. (Though honestly, that irritation isn't limited to GLP-1s!)
Just like @AriaKbye, the “no win” scenario drives me crazy: if you're obese you're branded “lazy” (regardless of whether valid medical and social factors are at play), you're seen as weak-willed when roughly 95% of us put the weight back on after losing it through diet and exercise alone, and if you use a GLP you're dismissed as a lazy drug user.
I'm always offering my friends free medicationlessthanhalf said:
Not being able to get any of my relatives to try them, even though several of them clearly could use the help. My son carries extra weight, barely moves at all, and his BMI sits in the low 30's. Another relative who used to be overweight is now in their 50's and prediabetic.
Haha, exactly this. Or when someone goes, 'weren't you doing those fat jabs?'Alex_9327 said:
For me, it’s the nonstop questions about the number of pounds I’ve dropped.
I've got 2 friends who also went the compounded route. The first one called it quits after just a month, saying it made her feel gross. The second spent 8 months micro-dosing tirzepatide at around .25 mg, all because the women she follows on TikTok and FB told her that was the right amount. To this day she's baffled that she only dropped 5 pounds.ladyj779 said:
I'm always offering my friends free medicationalthough after the talks we've had over the last 2 months, 2 of them have begun compound.
Oh, hook them on it and then jack up the price once they can't go without it — just like a pusher. Brilliant.ladyj779 said:
I'm always offering my friends free medicationalthough after the talks we've had over the last 2 months, 2 of them have begun compound.
A podcast I heard broke down the way insurance companies turn a profit, and honestly it matches that description exactly. The pharmacy benefit managers are under the insurance company's ownership. You pay 10 dollars to get a prescription filled, while the cash price without insurance would only be 2 dollars. The same thing happens with hospitals and doctors. The larger the sums they "pay out," the more they're able to charge for premiums. And on top of that, they receive kickbacks on whatever they pay out. They're basically the mafia of today.spanky2026 said:
That never-ending chorus of comments along the lines of, "Sure, you dropped a bunch of weight, but just you wait — 10 years from now that injection will hand you cancer." I hear this alllllll the time.
And then there's what others have already pointed out: the moment a genuinely effective obesity treatment exists — one that leaves people undeniably healthier and delivers benefits in 100 ways beyond simply shedding pounds — insurance companies suddenly can't distance themselves from it fast enough. Hmmmm, it's almost as though our health was never actually their concern.![]()
The majority of big employers cover their own claims. United, or whichever firm handles the plan's funds, is involved. To boost what they earn and to hold down what the employer pays, benefit managers coordinate with the insurer. So when a claim for care gets denied, that's the insurer and the employer acting together.limy845T4RD said:
A podcast I heard broke down the way insurance companies turn a profit, and honestly it matches that description exactly. The pharmacy benefit managers are under the insurance company's ownership. You pay 10 dollars to get a prescription filled, while the cash price without insurance would only be 2 dollars. The same thing happens with hospitals and doctors. The larger the sums they "pay out," the more they're able to charge for premiums. And on top of that, they receive kickbacks on whatever they pay out. They're basically the mafia of today.