'Weight-loss treatment is on the verge of a dramatic shift – again'

[Leg Show Magazine]

Weight-loss treatment is on the verge of a dramatic shift – again



About 10 weeks after it was approved, the Wegovy pill is now estimated to be part of the daily regimen of about 400,000 Americans. And the field of weight-loss treatment is on the verge of even more h...

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The article talks about the affordability and convenience of pill-form GLP-1s and about Retatrutide (Triple G).

 

[AcadiaPeptides]

Honestly, what strikes me most about these GLP‑1 weight‑loss drugs is how much they’re changing the way we think about health. For years, people were told that weight was just about willpower, and now we’re finally acknowledging that biology plays a huge role. That part feels like real progress.

At the same time, it’s hard to ignore the bigger picture. These medications work, but they’re expensive, hard to access, and not everyone’s insurance covers them. It shouldn’t be that only some people get access to treatments that can genuinely improve their health. If we’re going to treat obesity like the chronic condition it is, then the system around it needs to catch up too.

 

[RJ760]

All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.

 

[Chopper]

RJ760 said:


All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.

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I actually think it's possible that if more people get access to glp drugs, food companies may change up their offerings somewhat to accommodate the changing customers. Idk how well trying to "hold companies accountable" would shake out in the real world. I do however agree that they share some blame for poor health of the general population, I just know in this country money talks and food companies follow it.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

RJ760 said:


All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.

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Or we could just stop buying everything ready-to-eat and go for ingredients to make real food ourselves. It won't solve everything that's wrong but it will help. If there's no market....

 

[RJ760]

HereKittyKitty said:


Or we could just stop buying everything ready-to-eat and go for ingredients to make real food ourselves. It won't solve everything that's wrong but it will help. If there's no market....

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Agreed, but there are times people(myself included) just don’t have time to cook a meal from scratch with fresh ingredients and I’d love a wider variety of healthier options from restaurants.

 

[Good-Heart6425]

‘ Consumer discretionary’ sector of the stock market shows how reliable profit and dividends are made by exploiting our compulsive junk consumptions. Wall Street relies on the consumers to bail it out when indexes plunge. Addictive consumables generate big profits for junk food/beverages, boozes, etc. It’s not our fault that we’re so darn fat. Corporate laboratories design irresistibility into their products.

 

[Good-Heart6425]

Jesse Welles. “Fat”

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeT9qo2rTFM

The song is a piece of satirical social commentary that addresses the obesity crisis, food industry marketing, and personal accountability.

Key Aspects of the Song:

• Lyrics & Themes: The song features the lyrics, "Well, it's your own damn fault you're so damn fat," and makes references to "grinding critters and chemicals up in the factory".
  
• Satire: It uses dark humor to criticize how corporations and society often shift responsibility for health issues onto the individual.
  
• Style: It is in a folk/country style, often featured on TikTok where Welles shares his original music. Welles frequently explores harsh societal truths in his music

 

[HereKittyKitty]

RJ760 said:


Agreed, but there are times people(myself included) just don’t have time to cook a meal from scratch with fresh ingredients and I’d love a wider variety of healthier options from restaurants.

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Fair. I rarely eat in restaurants. I feel sick most of the time after dining out.

 

[WLBLD]

HereKittyKitty said:


Fair. I rarely eat in restaurants. I feel sick most of the time after dining out.

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Me too!! Luckily we like to cook & make healthier restaurant style food at home.

 

[Rolltide61]

RJ760 said:


All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.

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The food companies will adjust temporarily (smaller portions for example) but think about this.

Food companies finding a way to neutralize GLP1s. Read about this about a year ago. They are evil enough to find a way and then do it.

We live in a time where companies have no intention of doing the right thing. It is sad.

 

[WLBLD]

Has anyone read the comment section on the link? So many have no clue how much GLPs have helped people. Comments such as just put the fork down. So many ignorant people have no idea...

Its so nice to have this forum & be able to discuss without so much judgement!!

 

[HereKittyKitty]

WLBLD said:


Has anyone read the comment section on the link? So many have no clue how much GLPs have helped people. Comments such as just put the fork down. So many ignorant people have no idea...

Its so nice to have this forum & be able to discuss without so much judgement!!

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It's easier to blame people as if they are piggy slobs than to understand the complexity of bariatric medicine. It's also the American way through the lens of Rugged Individualism philosophy upon which the US was built. This posture holds true today, 250 years later.

 

[WLBLD]

HereKittyKitty said:


It's easier to blame people as if they are piggy slobs than to understand the complexity of bariatric medicine. It's also the American way through the lens of Rugged Individualism philosophy upon which the US was built. This posture holds true today, 250 years later.

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Until someone has a problem, I think many just assume & judge.

Everyone's story is different. I don't judge anyone, it all stinks & feel for all that have this. I grew up with very weight centered parents & that really mattered to them. Younger I was never really overweight but had dieted since young. Hearing things from your father "Why aren't you as skinny as her". I'm sure I ruined my metabolism. Since my mid 20s I could no longer loose weight.

For Yearsss now dieting & exercise (2-3 classes a day 5 days a week + walking, sauna, gluten free, no soda, only drinking water, not eating fast food, no fried food, tracking closely average 900-1,000 cal a day, etc). Nothing I could do would allow me to lose weight. Dieting (tried every one under the sun & never stopped). Even no appetite, barely eating could not lose. Drs etc no answers. Not even on Phentermine, etc. I'm very new (about 5 weeks), but this is the 1st time ever that I lost 8lbs so far.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

WLBLD said:


Until someone has a problem, I think many just assume & judge.

Everyone's story is different. I don't judge anyone, it all stinks & feel for all that have this. I grew up with very weight centered parents & that really mattered to them. Younger I was never really overweight but had dieted since young. Hearing things from your father "Why aren't you as skinny as her". I'm sure I ruined my metabolism. Since my mid 20s I could no longer loose weight.

For Yearsss now dieting & exercise (2-3 classes a day 5 days a week + walking, sauna, gluten free, no soda, only drinking water, not eating fast food, no fried food, tracking closely average 900-1,000 cal a day, etc). Nothing I could do would allow me to lose weight. Dieting (tried every one under the sun & never stopped). Even no appetite, barely eating could not lose. Drs etc no answers. Not even on Phentermine, etc. I'm very new (about 5 weeks), but this is the 1st time ever that I lost 8lbs so far.

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We were similarly raised. I hear you and I see you. I celebrate your 8 pounds!! I'm glad you're here.

 

[dickybob]

RJ760 said:


All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.

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I'm a past WW and during that phase of my life I read a lot about food including what makes us keep eating & eating. The big processed food makers paid for the scientific research and used it in the manufacturing of their highly processed foods that stimulate us to eat & eat. We immediately started to put on more weight. There are other factors: in the 80's a lot of subsidized corn growing put cheap corn starch on The market. Corn starch is easily converted to glucose and is relatively cheap. Most highly processed foods contain cheap corn biproducts: corn syrup, corn starch, & corn oil. The bottom line is that it would be very difficult to enact laws that would eliminate all these processed foods and I'm not sure I want government to be that intrusive. For now, I think our best answer is cheap peptides from China.

 

[fetefille]

HereKittyKitty said:


Or we could just stop buying everything ready-to-eat and go for ingredients to make real food ourselves. It won't solve everything that's wrong but it will help. If there's no market....

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"If there's no market..." that's it right there.

two words: food deserts. where I live I'm spoiled for choice, go 15-20 miles north, south, east, or west, and you can maybe find a corner store. so no, "we" can't just stop buying ready-to-eat. it doesn't spoil as easily as fruits & veg, it's available in places more fresh foods aren't.

you'll for damn sure find a McDonalds, a chik-fil-a, a whatever.

not everyone has transportation to get to the store even if they do exist. and believe you me, that was on so much purpose. there's a reason some public transportation only goes so far in metropolitan areas.

thankful that's not an issue for you or for me, but it's a reality for a lot of urban and rural folks.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

You're absolutely right. My comment was tone deaf. Food deserts are very real.

 

[Indiana]

The trouble I have is I eat, I am then full, but I still want to eat even though I am extremely full and I have no idea why? I have been off the Reta for about 2 weeks now but thinking of going back on again just to stop the food noise and cravings.

 

[fetefille]

HereKittyKitty said:


You're absolutely right. My comment was tone deaf. Food deserts are very real.

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good-hearted and hopeful and forward looking. I appreciate that, but the monsters that like to see folks suffer want to keep folks in that mindset. keep folks thinking it's as easy as "just stop buying junk!"