⚠️WARNING⚠️ EP10 High Endotoxin Results

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SPB/Yuna EP10 just tested at 26k EU/vial. These are remarkably dangerous levels, so exercise extreme caution. A friend just texted me the report, and Yuna made an announcement 10ish mins ago, but at these levels this needs to be broadcast as far as it can get as fast as it can.
 
unclebuff702 said:


SPB/Yuna EP10 just tested at 26k EU/vial. These are remarkably dangerous levels, so exercise extreme caution. A friend just texted me the report, and Yuna made an announcement 10ish mins ago, but at these levels this needs to be broadcast as far as it can get as fast as it can.

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Link source of results?
 
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Woke up to this warning in several tg groups which is good. That the warning is being spread. I'm just thinking about those who didn't get or won't get the warning. Not everyone hangs out on TG or forums. I sure hope SPB takes their time and get in touch with those who ordered. I don't just mean send out an email but really get a hold of them with 100% certainty. Will a vendor be that thorough? And a vendor that send out products like that I'm not too sure.
 
The vendors really need to adopt a guarantee standard for Endotoxins that is safe. We shouldn't be relying on goodwill for refunds for this as the levels sometimes found are concerningly high.
 
What would be the effect if it were a nasal spray?

Assuming there would be 20 doses, that would be an amount of ~1,300 endotoxin units per spray.

I can't find any documentation on this. Does anyone have any ref?
 
eidos said:


What would be the effect if it were a nasal spray?

Assuming there would be 20 doses, that would be an amount of ~1,300 endotoxin units per spray.

I can't find any documentation on this. Does anyone have any ref?

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The calculation doesn't cover IN administration as it's based on the FDA/USP pyrogenic dose threshold of 5.0 EU/kg/hour for parenteral (IV/SC/IM) administration, but you're dosing directly into the mucosa, so the onset of fever is even more rapid. And with that Endo load, I think you're talking about an eventual major infection. The table is wrapped, but you get the gist of it.

Per LLM-

Effects of Intranasal Administration of Pyrogens

Rapid Onset of Fever

Intranasal administration of pyrogens can lead to a rapid onset of fever. This is due to their ability to stimulate the immune system directly through the nasal mucosa, allowing for quicker absorption into the bloodstream.

Inflammatory Responses

The introduction of pyrogens via the intranasal route can also trigger inflammatory responses. This occurs as the immune system reacts to the pyrogens, which are substances that induce fever and inflammation.

Comparison with Other Routes

The intranasal route offers advantages over traditional methods of administration, such as oral or injectable forms, particularly in terms of speed and efficiency. Here’s a comparison:

Attribute Intranasal Administration Other Routes

Onset of Action Rapid Slower

Absorption Efficiency High Variable

Invasiveness Non-invasive Invasive (injections)

Patient Comfort Higher Lower (especially with needles)

Summary

Overall, intranasal administration of pyrogens is effective for inducing rapid fever and inflammatory responses, making it a valuable method for certain therapeutic applications.
 
JohannesSweden77 said:


Woke up to this warning in several tg groups which is good. That the warning is being spread. I'm just thinking about those who didn't get or won't get the warning. Not everyone hangs out on TG or forums. I sure hope SPB takes their time and get in touch with those who ordered. I don't just mean send out an email but really get a hold of them with 100% certainty. Will a vendor be that thorough? And a vendor that send out products like that I'm not too sure.

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Freeze dried fecal matter is prolly safer to pin than this. We know its not restricted to SPB though this is second recent endo fail for them. I can live with anything under 400 a vial. Ridiculous how everything went to shit in 26 for chinese peptides. Moldy raws, wrong peptides, cross contaminated peptides, zero peptides, toxic excipients, endos 8-500 times a safe level. Straight up deez nutz money grab.
 
If anyone knows anyone with some of these samples I would be interested in them for testing purposes. Please let me know.
 
Airborne Daddy said:


Freeze dried fecal matter is prolly safer to pin than this. We know its not restricted to SPB though this is second recent endo fail for them. I can live with anything under 400 a vial. Ridiculous how everything went to shit in 26 for chinese peptides. Moldy raws, wrong peptides, cross contaminated peptides, zero peptides, toxic excipients, endos 8-500 times a safe level. Straight up deez nutz money grab.

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What was their other failure? I've never been a customer, but my perception has been that they have a good reputation, provide decent products and it's tested frequently, mostly by STG. I guess shit happens, in this case literally.
 
Obvious_Reel said:


If anyone knows anyone with some of these samples I would be interested in them for testing purposes. Please let me know.

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Not sure how many you'll get. Yuna wants video of their destruction so they aren't resold. I think a few testing groups would like to get a couple of them.
 
SPB had a NAD failure as well pretty recently. In the past few months SPB has had 3 warnings on safety. There is a serious problem here and its not an isolated incident.
 
I’m still waiting to make my first order of peptides not from Canada and these things are very concerning. The more I look it seems like most vendors are not trustworthy even the ones on this site.
 
Redz said:


I’m still waiting to make my first order of peptides not from Canada and these things are very concerning. The more I look it seems like most vendors are not trustworthy even the ones on this site.

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It is just a recent issue, I am sure they will resolve it soon as it will start eating into profits quickly if not.

Another good reason to have some stock to make it through.

I would bet as more information becomes available we will be able to better identify which vendors are purchasing from the upstream that is contaminated. They will also be making major efforts as now it is on the radar more endo testing will be done.
 
Redz said:


I’m still waiting to make my first order of peptides not from Canada and these things are very concerning. The more I look it seems like most vendors are not trustworthy even the ones on this site.

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Vendors will send you a product for your money, that's as far as trust goes. You should test, or find a vendor with an active community that tests and shares often, or get into a group test for what you're buying.

At the end of the day, greed runs the world. Grey market peptides, lettuce, levothyroxine, blood pressure meds.... The list of things that in the world that can go bad and end badly are limitless, recalls abound in every sector. Hell, Tylenol killed people.

Do your due diligence and research, take appropriate precautions according to your level of acceptable risk, and go forward in good faith man, it's all we have.
 
Chili777 said:


Not sure how many you'll get. Yuna wants video of their destruction so they aren't resold. I think a few testing groups would like to get a couple of them.

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I like to think glass half full so if anyone hears anything let me know!
 
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