Vendors removing posts and blocking users on their private pages

[InquisitiveMind]

Yesterday, in a particular Chinese group, I came across an HCG group test report where the endotoxin levels were extremely high (over 1400). Within minutes, the admin began claiming the person who uploaded it had tampered with it, saying they had altered the data in the certificate, even though the certificate contained Janoshik links. After that, the admin requested proof of purchase from the uploader, and then nothing more was said. Later, the uploader verified that he had talked with the admin and that they were awaiting confirmation—of what, I don't know. Meanwhile, the admins began chat-banning anyone who discussed it! They didn't want the topic brought up. Although I didn't manage to screenshot the admin accusing the uploader of manipulation, I did save the certificates. Strange but not shocking behavior.

 

[littledragon25]

This has been happening with increasing frequency recently. On top of that, vendors are turning down an initial test and insisting on a 2nd or 3rd from different labs.

 

[InquisitiveMind]

I'm talking about the admins—if the group has always acted strange and really prickly toward members, fine, but claiming they altered a certificate that's obviously real is just pathetic lol

 

[Flash-BCR]

A thread existed discussing HCG, along with 1 of the main components employed in its production and no surprise why the ends were so elevated...

 

[gusterbuster]

I have no connection to that group, so this is not me sticking up for them. That said, I have seen cases where individuals went after vendors while moderators were still trying to sort out bad test results. One case I am aware of involved people attacking lobster over an hgh test that failed, even though that test came from a different vendor.

In short, folks can act too soon, and that can wreck relationships, leaving that group unable to run group buys with those vendors anymore.

Worth mentioning: these cases happened before the group sent the product out.

 

[InquisitiveMind]

gusterbuster said:

I have no connection to that group, so this is not me sticking up for them. That said, I have seen cases where individuals went after vendors while moderators were still trying to sort out bad test results. One case I am aware of involved people attacking lobster over an hgh test that failed, even though that test came from a different vendor.

In short, folks can act too soon, and that can wreck relationships, leaving that group unable to run group buys with those vendors anymore.

Worth mentioning: these cases happened before the group sent the product out.

A certificate from this group carries its name, and the group itself originated inside the vendors community.

 

[Skidude]

There are several problems with this post.

You aren't part of this situation — you're a 3rd party.

The topic title you chose is inflammatory.

From what it looks like, this is happening on a different site that has nothing to do with this one.

Based on your description, it sounds like that site is trying to address the matter.

This involves a product that already has a category of its own.

You first put this in Public Square, where it doesn't belong — and it probably doesn't belong anywhere.

Should the individuals impacted be forum members who want to make a first person accusation, there may be a place for that here.

Finally:

Most Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) contains trace levels of endotoxins due to how it is made and harvested. Endotoxins aren't put in deliberately. Rather, they are stubborn, naturally occurring remnants from the bacteria or human sources used to produce the hormone.

Legal prescription hCG of high quality undergoes thorough cleaning so endotoxin levels are safe for people. On the other hand, cheap, illegal, or "underground" versions frequently carry dangerously high levels

Recombinant hCG (Made in Labs)

Most hCG produced with modern, high-tech methods comes from genetically engineered cells grown in a lab. [1]

• • The Cause: Bacteria (such as E. coli) or other cell cultures are frequently used by scientists as "factories" for growing the hormone.
  • The Problem: Since endotoxins occur naturally in bacterial cell walls, the raw liquid collected from these labs is full of them. To wash the endotoxins out, manufacturers have to rely on advanced, costly filtering systems. [1]

2. Urinary hCG (Extracted from Urine)

Older or more affordable hCG versions are purified and extracted from the urine of pregnant women. [1, 2]

• • The Cause: Human urine isn't perfectly sterile; it naturally holds various proteins and can readily pick up environmental bacteria while being collected. [1, 2]
  • The Problem: When bacteria multiply in the urine after collection and before processing, they leave a large amount of endotoxins behind. Separating the pure hCG from these urinary contaminants calls for an intense, multi-step cleaning process

 

[ZippityDooDah]

InquisitiveMind said:

Yesterday, in a particular Chinese group, I came across an HCG group test report where the endotoxin levels were extremely high (over 1400). Within minutes, the admin began claiming the person who uploaded it had tampered with it, saying they had altered the data in the certificate, even though the certificate contained Janoshik links. After that, the admin requested proof of purchase from the uploader, and then nothing more was said. Later, the uploader verified that he had talked with the admin and that they were awaiting confirmation—of what, I don't know. Meanwhile, the admins began chat-banning anyone who discussed it! They didn't want the topic brought up. Although I didn't manage to screenshot the admin accusing the uploader of manipulation, I did save the certificates. Strange but not shocking behavior.

How many times does this point need to be made? Reports about vendor problems and bad products that come from a second, third, or five-thousandth person do not serve any useful purpose. What is always most trustworthy is a first-person account from an individual customer (not someone who is themselves a reseller, vendor, or group buy "organizer"), paired with lab results from a reputable testing facility and the relevant back-and-forth with the vendor.

"So while I was at my local BMW dealership, I overheard a man complaining that they had ripped him off. I had no other firsthand knowledge or information about the situation beyond what I happened to hear, yet I instantly went to every BMW-focused social media platform to announce that BMW was ripping off innocent customers."

InquisitiveMind said:

Yesterday, in a particular Chinese group, I came across an HCG group test report where the endotoxin levels were extremely high (over 1400). Within minutes, the admin began claiming the person who uploaded it had tampered with it, saying they had altered the data in the certificate, even though the certificate contained Janoshik links. After that, the admin requested proof of purchase from the uploader, and then nothing more was said. Later, the uploader verified that he had talked with the admin and that they were awaiting confirmation—of what, I don't know. Meanwhile, the admins began chat-banning anyone who discussed it! They didn't want the topic brought up. Although I didn't manage to screenshot the admin accusing the uploader of manipulation, I did save the certificates. Strange but not shocking behavior.

By now, no one should be taken aback when a vendor seeks to dictate what gets posted inside THEIR OWN private group, page, or similar space. The saner way to look at it is to expect exactly that. Their house, their rules, even if that person is 100% correct.

Suppose a guest entered your home and began saying negative things about your spouse, partner, or child (even if those things were true). Would you not tell them to get out?

"I was shocked to see the manager of the BMW dealership ask the police to remove the disgruntled customer."