Oh wow, that sounds like a really smart approach! I recently picked up luer lock syringes along with easy touch needle tips and a few 1.5" tips as well. So for those annoying last doses, I can just swap out the needle. My hope is that this will ease the frustration I run into during those times.
I honestly don't understand how the pens function. It seems like there's more work upfront to get them ready, but then the daily injections become simpler? Do you throw away the glass cartridges after one use, or do you reuse them?
trey915 said:
Reading what you wrote has me on edge. The KLOw stack I use comes pre-mixed in the powder, and the results so far have been fantastic. For a couple of years I've dealt with chronic pain in my hip and lower back. About 5 weeks on KLOW, and the pain has dropped noticeably. Before, it kept me awake at night and sat at a $ out of 10 on the pain scale. These days it's closer to a 1-2 out of 10. I had hoped the issue was actually healed, but hearing your experience makes me a little worried that it might only last while I'm taking it.amosmylove said:
JonSpartan said:
Tomorrow marks the start of week 4 on my peptide regimen. Even after doing plenty of homework, consulting my physicians, and reading up on everything, plenty of things caught me off guard.
Anonymity lets me speak with total candor. The World Wide Web is great!
Protocol:
Background: A loose bone was taken out of my AC Joint, and some minor debris was cleaned up in the shoulder; I went overboard with handstands without caution, and after stacking that up across many years, well, you end up with a loose bone in the AC Joint plus debris.
- BPC 157, daily (500 mcg)
- KPV, daily (500 mcg)
- GHK-cu, daily (2mg)
- TB 500, twice a week (2.5mg)
- MOTS-c, twice a week (2.5mg)
Just one week after the shoulder operation, I broke my foot (5th metatarsal, or near pinky toe). The break happened while I tried a trick jump roping with my nephew. I know. It sounds lame. Totally lame.
That put me completely out of commission, stuck on the couch. It sucks if you're really active.
The appeal of accelerating the healing process was very alluring. For the sake of sanity, this posts assumes I purchased from a reputable supplier that the majority of people on this forum would feel comfortable buying from.
I began the above protocol roughly 7 weeks after breaking my foot; 8 weeks after shoulder surgery. Progress: Shoulder is "ahead of schedule," while my foot is "on schedule."
Surprises:
Other:
- My first try was putting BPC, KPV, and GHK into a single syringe; I had no idea how hard that would be. Because holy shit I didn't know drawing with a "loaded" syringe meant creating a black hole of suction when pinning into another vial. This resulted in mixing peptides with other peptides, which, as a newbie, meant the peptides ended up in the trash. I now pin each peptide separately. It works for me. You do you and whatnot.
- What happens if you're near the end of your Bac Water? For example: if you have 1ml of Bac Water left, but need to reconstitute with a new peptide with 2ml, can you draw from a new, different bottle of Bac Water? I don't know, but did. The point is I didn't anticipate situations like this.
- The first time I pinned 2.5mg of TB 500, I just jabbed it in glute and pushed. Boom, bam pow. 1, 2, 3. Didn't know that wasn't a good approach. I now inject more slowly ("One Mississippi, Two Mississippi," etc).
- Sometimes AI is more helpful than people online. It's true.
- You start to wonder if what you're doing is actually working. It's exciting when you start. But over time, you wonder if maybe you're naturally healing? Maybe the peptides are helping? Maybe it's still too early to tell? Did you do something wrong? Did you buy bunk peptides? These questions eventually run through your head, ngl.
- If you don't use crypto, learning how is annoying.
- I purchased MOTS-c because I needed to spend a little more to get free shipping. I don't know if it's doing anything, tbh, though I get a 5 minute histamine when pinning it twice a week.
- I keep track of every shot, every day, in a Google Doc. I take notes each day for anything I noticed. For example: Today I used a new Bac Water; I write that down. Strangely, this has also turned into journaling. I'll write stuff like, "Today is the World Cup and we want Spain to win." It's just a few words. Everyone says "journal every day," but who wants to do that? Tracking progress daily has resulted into this unexpected benefit. For me, at least.
- You can get Bac Water for free.
I have a private IG with a very small following. That is intentional.
These people know how hard I train, know my current injuries. They know me. The range of people who follow me is unique: childhood friends to global c-suite execs. I made an IG Story (disappears after 24 hours) on my protocol: "I am taking this, this, and this to help heal accelerate the healing of my injury. Here is what this, this, and this, do." etc. Something like that. 60 seconds. And holy shit, I got such a wide range of DMs from all sorts of people. It was very surprising! I believe there is a large appetite for peptides, beyond "Rogan" fans; Diary of a CEO, for example, recently had an episode talking about peptides. Different cohorts of people are learning about "peptides" from a variety of sources they trust. And a lot of people are curious, but don't want to do all the work, get crypto, or reconstitute, etc. I do not blame for wanting a solution where they could just buy peptides from "Amazon," if you will, with everything set up, trusted, and ready to go. It's wild all of these peptides were legal just three years ago.
Feel free to flame me in the comments below; I view it as a sign of endearment.
Cheers
Other than sharing the same peptides with you, I'm also taking nad+ at 100mg twice per week, plus right now I'm running epithalon and dsip in the evening.
As for your healing staying on track or even being a bit ahead, that's wonderful! Much better than it stalling out or getting worse.
For me, the klow stack gave clear but modest gains (I inject each one separately). A few ran out, and once I paused, the pain in my knees, wrists and hands came back. I reordered, then raised my bpc and tb doses to 1mg each on the same schedule, and afterward the improvement became really obvious, so I'm keeping it at that level.
It's possible I could drop back to 500mcg with them, which would make them last twice as long, so it is tempting, but I'm not willing to risk disrupting something that has worked so well for me.
I'm planning to pick up some DSIP soon, so I'd like to hear how it's working for you.
When they're used up, I throw them away. Having them pre-loaded makes things simpler and handier. If you're running the contents through a filter, they're honestly just as easy to handle as a syringe. The upside is you can go with a shorter needle, which is nicer when you're on the move, and the needles occupy far less room in sharps bins.
I appreciate that—it gave me a bit of optimism again.
A number of individuals find that the 'spicy' peps which tend to cause injection site reactions (ISR) go almost completely unnoticed when the shot is placed in the glutes/butt rather than the stomach.trey915 said:
Thank you. You restored some hope.
As for the sting and itch it seems to be worse on my abdomen and the higher on my abdomen the worse it is. The redness only lasts a couple of days and the same for the itching. But, I’m usually using the general area every 4 days. The soreness lasts 2 so I get a couple of days reprieve. Again, I’m new to it so hopefully my body will adjust and the soreness will dissipate with consistency.
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When a filter is part of your setup, the outcome is the same either way. Rather than moving it into a fresh vial, you simply move it into the cart. Pens are great in my book since they are ready when you are and take the tiniest needles.
Hmm. Switching over to pens has made this a lot more manageable for me. I might give that a shot. Thanks.
Do the cartridges cost a lot more than the vials? To be honest, I'm fine with the old-school approach. The only reason I'd likely make the change is if there were fun pen colors available.
Nope, not in my experience. My worst price was $1 apiece, though I've found considerably cheaper options too. I can't speak to the cost of sterile vials because that route never appealed to me. For someone like me—who was a total wimp around needles and still isn't a fan—it made the choice even easier, ha ha.
If anything, the carts cost slightly less than the vials, or at least about the same. Decent cartridges can be had for roughly $0.80 each.
I may check this out for my husband. Needles are not his thing at all. Every week I end up giving him his shot, and honestly I'm not impressed that he can't manage it himself, lol. I'd love for him to give kpv a go on a daily basis, but getting poked that frequently was a no from him. A pen might make the difference.
Exactly, right?
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Same here. Researching is something I'm capable of. There's no way I'd hand over money for that.Flash-BCR said:
I'm at an age where AI holds little attraction for me, so I wouldn't bring it into the routines I already know so well... Honestly, on most days I can hardly stand other people, and having my laptop boss me around as well probably wouldn't sit well with me...
Same.Flash-BCR said:
I'm at an age where AI holds little attraction for me, so I wouldn't bring it into the routines I already know so well... Honestly, on most days I can hardly stand other people, and having my laptop boss me around as well probably wouldn't sit well with me...
Suppose you pick up 1 to test out, along with a pair of 5-packs of cartridges — be aware that once they arrive, you fill them, and within a day or 2 you will find yourself back on the site ordering a large batch of carts, 1 pen for every pep you have, plus the standard pen accessories.
If it were me, I'd have picked the electric can opener comparison, though I get why bidet fits as well...
Pen spacers—until now I had zero clue what purpose they served. My assumption was that they existed to adapt Novo pens so they'd accept standard cartridges, or something along those lines—so thank you!
HouseCat said:
I had no idea what pen spacers were for…I thought they were something to conver Novo pens to regular cartridges or something—thanks!
I’ve just been drawing out the last few units of a cart that I can’t push out with a syringe. Excited to try this. I literally learn something new every day here.
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Same as @WLBLD, I pay $1/cart over at goodlifesupplies — one of the rare vendors I've come across that genuinely sterilizes their carts.
When you order, check that the carts have been steam sterilized. Individual wrapping does not guarantee that steam sterilization was performed.
