Trt, weekend vs weekday dose?

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Pretty new to trt. And i think this may be a dumb idea, but here me out and tear this up. Been taking 20mg test c every other day. Love it. But I was pondering, I work Tuesday thru Friday and sat, sun Monday off. I do aerobic excessive while at work and a small amount of resistance band training. On my days off, I do heavy for me, weights, kettle bells and push it a lot harder. Is it stupid for me to consider upping my dose for the weekend, and lowering my dose for the work week? I'm thinking like 12mg monday(seams to take 24 hours to hit me) 12 mg wendsday and 25mg friday(so it's working by the weekend). Then like 10 mg saterday, so my t levels will be a little lower at work and higher at home? Or would this just mess with my estrogen to much?
 
The goal is to keep your test levels steady. Spikes don't help with anything but feeling up and down. Having higher test while lifting heavy is not terribly beneficial. The muscle building happens during recovery. If anything look at increasing your overall dose. At 20mg every other day you are at about 80mg a week, which is a pretty low dose. Have you had your T levels tested since you started? 700-900 is a pretty sweet spot for most. Mine came back at 1257, and I feel great and no hematocrit issues.
 
I switched to daily dosing. 20 tics a day Test E 300. Almost zero PIP and I'm not aromatising . So 7 days a week is 140 ml total. I could probably dose up but am seeing results where I'm at. Nice constant influx of Test ,so none of that heart surge I used to get pinning. .5 ml twice weekly.
 
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Pretty new to trt. And i think this may be a dumb idea, but here me out and tear this up. Been taking 20mg test c every other day. Love it. But I was pondering, I work Tuesday thru Friday and sat, sun Monday off. I do aerobic excessive while at work and a small amount of resistance band training. On my days off, I do heavy for me, weights, kettle bells and push it a lot harder. Is it stupid for me to consider upping my dose for the weekend, and lowering my dose for the work week? I'm thinking like 12mg monday(seams to take 24 hours to hit me) 12 mg wendsday and 25mg friday(so it's working by the weekend). Then like 10 mg saterday, so my t levels will be a little lower at work and higher at home? Or would this just mess with my estrogen to much?

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70mg a week? What’s that put your test levels at?
 
Another vote for “meh” and what are your levels like?

I take 50mg M/W/F. Labs are on Monday mornings.

I’m glad I saw this post before going to work, I haven’t pinned today’s test or Reta yet.
 
I have not had my levels checked since starting. I have been on it for about 1 month. My dr put me on 200mg every 14 days, she gave me the first shot of 200mg. I waited a week, didn't feal much change, and started 20mg at day 8. 20mg eod since then. I feal a lot better than I did with natural number of 215. I have not had my levels checked since starting. I will have them checked in a few more weeks. And then meet with my dr. To adjust if needed. I defiantly want to be prescribed more, so I can adjust my dosage myself to optimize how I feal. I'm considering taking a smaller dose for about a 10 days before retest to lower my number, so she will prescribe more. Is this a dumb idea?
 
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I have not had my levels checked since starting. I have been on it for about 1 month. My dr put me on 200mg every 14 days, she gave me the first shot of 200mg. I waited a week, didn't feal much change, and started 20mg at day 8. 20mg eod since then. I feal a lot better than I did with natural number of 215. I have not had my levels checked since starting. I will have them checked in a few more weeks. And then meet with my dr. To adjust if needed. I defiantly want to be prescribed more, so I can adjust my dosage myself to optimize how I feal. I'm considering taking a smaller dose for about a 10 days before retest to lower my number, so she will prescribe more. Is this a dumb idea?

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You should absolutely find another provider, 200mg every other week is utter bullshit.

I use TRTNation, Rx 200mg/week, take 150mg/week and manage my own care with their general supervision.
 
woundcarping said:


You should absolutely find another provider, 200mg every other week is utter bullshit.

I use TRTNation, Rx 200mg/week, take 150mg/week and manage my own care with their general supervision.

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I appreciate your thoughts on this. I will go with another provider, if things don't change. But I'm going to give it some time. I'm fealing way better than I did. And im doing my own injections now, so I can split it in any way I want. 400 mg a month sit any way I want is low, but I believe she will up.the dose when I do labs. This is covered by insurance and costing me $5 a month. So going this route will robably be better in the end.
 
Any of you guys try testosterone injections with a pen? I may make a thread on this, searched already. This woukd make daily injections a breeze. Would it push threw a little needle? What size needle?. Would a auto pen had enought power? Or would I have to be a manual pen?
 
Just remember that Test is not like HGH. If you inject 12mg today it doesnt mean that 12mg is only spiking your test for today. Theres peaks and throughs and the half life for cyp is 6 days. so changing your doses daily will have crazy peaks and throughs.
 
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Just remember that Test is not like HGH. If you inject 12mg today it doesnt mean that 12mg is only spiking your test for today. Theres peaks and throughs and the half life for cyp is 6 days. so changing your doses daily will have crazy peaks and throughs.

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Wouldn't daily test c injections make the peaks and valleys more frequent and smaller? Like the bodies natural cycle. Naturally, High test in the morning, lower in the evening.
 
Shittersfull said:


Wouldn't daily test c injections make the peaks and valleys more frequent and smaller? Like the bodies natural cycle. Naturally, High test in the morning, lower in the evening.

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Many people support the daily theory to help avoid peaks and mitigate aroatization.

Your dosage, although very low, will take some time to drive up levels, your feels are likely placebo.

If I did it again I would not have started at 200mg (100 2x week) as it drove mine too high.

Here is what 200 a week of Test-ethanoate looks like on labs (YMMV we all respond differently) :

started in June at 60 days of 200wk was only 659 the September test was too high





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Shittersfull said:


Any of you guys try testosterone injections with a pen? I may make a thread on this, searched already. This woukd make daily injections a breeze. Would it push threw a little needle? What size needle?. Would a auto pen had enought power? Or would I have to be a manual pen?

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My is pens aren’t very reliable with oil.

You’re injecting a few units a day, a 29g needle will draw that quickly, easily, and accurately.
 
Skidude said:


Many people support the daily theory to help avoid peaks and mitigate aroatization.

Your dosage, although very low, will take some time to drive up levels, your feels are likely placebo.

If I did it again I would not have started at 200mg (100 2x week) as it drove mine too high.

Here is what 200 a week of Test-ethanoate looks like on labs (YMMV we all respond differently) :

started in June at 60 days of 200wk was only 659 the September test was too high

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Thank you for this info and chart. When you had labs, were you mindful of how many days after your injection your blood was drawn? Does it matter with your frequency? My dr requires the blood draw on day 5 after the 200mg injection. I have not told her in doing a eod injection.
 
woundcarping said:


My is pens aren’t very reliable with oil.

You’re injecting a few units a day, a 29g needle will draw that quickly, easily, and accurately.

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Thank you. I have been using 27 gauge 5/8". I'm not sure if there making it to my muscle or just deep subq. Next time I buy syringes, I will go 29 gauge.
 
Shittersfull said:


Thank you. I have been using 27 gauge 5/8". I'm not sure if there making it to my muscle or just deep subq. Next time I buy syringes, I will go 29 gauge.

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I do SQ only.

Split dosing does even out your levels, but there’s diminishing returns at some point, I don’t see a need to split beyond 3x weekly.
 
Shittersfull said:


Thank you for this info and chart. When you had labs, were you mindful of how many days after your injection your blood was drawn? Does it matter with your frequency? My dr requires the blood draw on day 5 after the 200mg injection. I have not told her in doing a eod injection.

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I do Monday and Thursday injections. Labs I do early Thursday morning for a 3 day trough, prior to injecting.

I do fasted 12 hr for all my results.

Natural peak is in morning.
 
Thank you all. I think I'm going to keep going with 20mg eod until my next blood test. Becouse it sure feels like it's working, and I would rather inject to much than not enough. After my blood test. I will regroup.
 
Shittersfull said:


I appreciate your thoughts on this. I will go with another provider, if things don't change. But I'm going to give it some time. I'm fealing way better than I did. And im doing my own injections now, so I can split it in any way I want. 400 mg a month sit any way I want is low, but I believe she will up.the dose when I do labs. This is covered by insurance and costing me $5 a month. So going this route will robably be better in the end.

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That’s a very reasonable cost! I would pin 100mg a week then.

Or a split dose of 50mg a twice a week… or split it three ways (0.33 mL), M-W-F.

There’s no way it be pinning it at 200 mg every other week. That’s sounds like death.

From my reading and understanding… MWF is a better schedule and reduces aromatization. I am a high aromatizer. When I can my endocrinologist to stop being stingy with medicine. I’m hitting

subcutaneously a MWF scheduling to see what it does to me.

Are you currently doing IM or SQ injections?
 
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