T20 blue caps

Airborne Daddy

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If anybody runs into blue t20 testing—endos in particular—give me a shout. Not long ago I picked up a kit from wbs for a buddy, and sure enough a 2mg pin laid him out. So erp, jkl, and probably one more vendor are all under the same umbrella. None of them tested the t20, t10, or any of the other tirz, yes.....now I'm wondering whether this is a high endo batch whose coa never saw the light. Just, take 5 bucks off and dump it on them.

I was the one watching the reconstitution and the dosing. This is exactly why I hate sticking my neck out. My sister in law asked me to grab her 4 kits of t30, but she already had her routine down so no problem. My wife had the shits after dose 1 or 2, and now she handles it like a pro... I figured everybody gets sick at least once? I'm going to buy it back and blast 15mg myself, then we'll find out....actually I'll do 5mg, cuz I pinned 10mg reta/2sema yesterday. Thanks as always.
 
HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
 
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spanky2026 said:

Came across a T20 blue cap test over on the ERP TG site. Whether that matches what you're after, I can't say — it's from one of the sister companies? 99% and overfill.
Appreciate it! I came across a m/p result that looked good. Assuming a group buy did endo testing on it, then the kit I picked up would be at least 3 months newer, since results usually take 30 days before they're out... so probably a different batch. Everyone knows hot-selling items move fast, yet vendors keep slapping the same batch stickers on for a year. Figured I'd put this up in case somebody went oh shit, that was a big endo fail, released early to the public.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

If anybody runs into blue t20 testing—endos in particular—give me a shout. Not long ago I picked up a kit from wbs for a buddy, and sure enough a 2mg pin laid him out. So erp, jkl, and probably one more vendor are all under the same umbrella. None of them tested the t20, t10, or any of the other tirz, yes.....now I'm wondering whether this is a high endo batch whose coa never saw the light. Just, take 5 bucks off and dump it on them.

I was the one watching the reconstitution and the dosing. This is exactly why I hate sticking my neck out. My sister in law asked me to grab her 4 kits of t30, but she already had her routine down so no problem. My wife had the shits after dose 1 or 2, and now she handles it like a pro... I figured everybody gets sick at least once? I'm going to buy it back and blast 15mg myself, then we'll find out....actually I'll do 5mg, cuz I pinned 10mg reta/2sema yesterday. Thanks as always.
Sometimes it's simply that certain individuals react badly.. whether that's a placebo or psychosomatic thing, or sometimes a really heavy greasy meal sitting in the gut for days..

Plenty of people have told me "Sema or Zep just doesn't work for me".
 
HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
 
Skidude said:

Airborne Daddy said:

If anybody runs into blue t20 testing—endos in particular—give me a shout. Not long ago I picked up a kit from wbs for a buddy, and sure enough a 2mg pin laid him out. So erp, jkl, and probably one more vendor are all under the same umbrella. None of them tested the t20, t10, or any of the other tirz, yes.....now I'm wondering whether this is a high endo batch whose coa never saw the light. Just, take 5 bucks off and dump it on them.

I was the one watching the reconstitution and the dosing. This is exactly why I hate sticking my neck out. My sister in law asked me to grab her 4 kits of t30, but she already had her routine down so no problem. My wife had the shits after dose 1 or 2, and now she handles it like a pro... I figured everybody gets sick at least once? I'm going to buy it back and blast 15mg myself, then we'll find out....actually I'll do 5mg, cuz I pinned 10mg reta/2sema yesterday. Thanks as always.
Sometimes it's simply that certain individuals react badly.. whether that's a placebo or psychosomatic thing, or sometimes a really heavy greasy meal sitting in the gut for days..

Plenty of people have told me "Sema or Zep just doesn't work for me".
My wife had a bad reaction to sema more than 12 months back. I'm with you on that. Some people also blow things out of proportion. When you're starting out, a few days of diarrhea and mild stomach upset is just something that can happen.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
Appreciate the explanation. Clearly there was a detail I'd overlooked.

Most of my purchases happen through group buys where endo testing is baked into the deal by whoever runs it. Beyond that, luck has played a big part (and I mean that sincerely) — I've managed to slide into independent groups for products that were still on the market, and we put it to a vote to add endo.

What's frustrating is that flying solo makes it hard to guarantee a spot in a testing group, and that bugs me. Being tied to lead times that stretch over months is not something I enjoy. Whenever my stash starts running thin, the worry kicks in — that anxious feeling that I won't line up the testing setup that matches what I'm comfortable with.
 
HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
Appreciate the explanation. Clearly there was a detail I'd overlooked.

Most of my purchases happen through group buys where endo testing is baked into the deal by whoever runs it. Beyond that, luck has played a big part (and I mean that sincerely) — I've managed to slide into independent groups for products that were still on the market, and we put it to a vote to add endo.

What's frustrating is that flying solo makes it hard to guarantee a spot in a testing group, and that bugs me. Being tied to lead times that stretch over months is not something I enjoy. Whenever my stash starts running thin, the worry kicks in — that anxious feeling that I won't line up the testing setup that matches what I'm comfortable with.
That was a clever move, bff. My bad for getting a bit snippy.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

Skidude said:

Airborne Daddy said:

If anybody runs into blue t20 testing—endos in particular—give me a shout. Not long ago I picked up a kit from wbs for a buddy, and sure enough a 2mg pin laid him out. So erp, jkl, and probably one more vendor are all under the same umbrella. None of them tested the t20, t10, or any of the other tirz, yes.....now I'm wondering whether this is a high endo batch whose coa never saw the light. Just, take 5 bucks off and dump it on them.

I was the one watching the reconstitution and the dosing. This is exactly why I hate sticking my neck out. My sister in law asked me to grab her 4 kits of t30, but she already had her routine down so no problem. My wife had the shits after dose 1 or 2, and now she handles it like a pro... I figured everybody gets sick at least once? I'm going to buy it back and blast 15mg myself, then we'll find out....actually I'll do 5mg, cuz I pinned 10mg reta/2sema yesterday. Thanks as always.
Sometimes it's simply that certain individuals react badly.. whether that's a placebo or psychosomatic thing, or sometimes a really heavy greasy meal sitting in the gut for days..

Plenty of people have told me "Sema or Zep just doesn't work for me".
My wife had a bad reaction to sema more than 12 months back. I'm with you on that. Some people also blow things out of proportion. When you're starting out, a few days of diarrhea and mild stomach upset is just something that can happen.
A family member of mine is involved with the US Government Bridge program, and I was bracing for a major freak-out. Losing weight isn't everyone's goal. My guidance was to inject half the dose, 2 times per week, and that's exactly what was done. Week #5 has come and gone, and 10 pounds are gone. I'm thrilled for them, yet I'm still stunned there was no drama at all. Nothing besides the disappearance of food noise.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
Appreciate the explanation. Clearly there was a detail I'd overlooked.

Most of my purchases happen through group buys where endo testing is baked into the deal by whoever runs it. Beyond that, luck has played a big part (and I mean that sincerely) — I've managed to slide into independent groups for products that were still on the market, and we put it to a vote to add endo.

What's frustrating is that flying solo makes it hard to guarantee a spot in a testing group, and that bugs me. Being tied to lead times that stretch over months is not something I enjoy. Whenever my stash starts running thin, the worry kicks in — that anxious feeling that I won't line up the testing setup that matches what I'm comfortable with.
That was a clever move, bff. My bad for getting a bit snippy.
No worries, I just wasn't catching your drift. We're on the same page now. 😊 Feels like you've been scarce around here lately. What have you been up to?
 
HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
Appreciate the explanation. Clearly there was a detail I'd overlooked.

Most of my purchases happen through group buys where endo testing is baked into the deal by whoever runs it. Beyond that, luck has played a big part (and I mean that sincerely) — I've managed to slide into independent groups for products that were still on the market, and we put it to a vote to add endo.

What's frustrating is that flying solo makes it hard to guarantee a spot in a testing group, and that bugs me. Being tied to lead times that stretch over months is not something I enjoy. Whenever my stash starts running thin, the worry kicks in — that anxious feeling that I won't line up the testing setup that matches what I'm comfortable with.
That was a clever move, bff. My bad for getting a bit snippy.
No worries, I just wasn't catching your drift. We're on the same page now. 😊 Feels like you've been scarce around here lately. What have you been up to?
Since I hardly drink these days, I've just been sour and nasty lol.
 
Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
Appreciate the explanation. Clearly there was a detail I'd overlooked.

Most of my purchases happen through group buys where endo testing is baked into the deal by whoever runs it. Beyond that, luck has played a big part (and I mean that sincerely) — I've managed to slide into independent groups for products that were still on the market, and we put it to a vote to add endo.

What's frustrating is that flying solo makes it hard to guarantee a spot in a testing group, and that bugs me. Being tied to lead times that stretch over months is not something I enjoy. Whenever my stash starts running thin, the worry kicks in — that anxious feeling that I won't line up the testing setup that matches what I'm comfortable with.
That was a clever move, bff. My bad for getting a bit snippy.
No worries, I just wasn't catching your drift. We're on the same page now. 😊 Feels like you've been scarce around here lately. What have you been up to?
Since I hardly drink these days, I've just been sour and nasty lol.
🤣🤣 A full thread exists about hobbies and rabbit holes. Go discover a fresh one! 😉🤣🤣
 
HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
Appreciate the explanation. Clearly there was a detail I'd overlooked.

Most of my purchases happen through group buys where endo testing is baked into the deal by whoever runs it. Beyond that, luck has played a big part (and I mean that sincerely) — I've managed to slide into independent groups for products that were still on the market, and we put it to a vote to add endo.

What's frustrating is that flying solo makes it hard to guarantee a spot in a testing group, and that bugs me. Being tied to lead times that stretch over months is not something I enjoy. Whenever my stash starts running thin, the worry kicks in — that anxious feeling that I won't line up the testing setup that matches what I'm comfortable with.
That was a clever move, bff. My bad for getting a bit snippy.
No worries, I just wasn't catching your drift. We're on the same page now. 😊 Feels like you've been scarce around here lately. What have you been up to?
Since I hardly drink these days, I've just been sour and nasty lol.
🤣🤣 A full thread exists about hobbies and rabbit holes. Go discover a fresh one! 😉🤣🤣
This is exactly the kind of support I appreciate—no judgment, just someone being a genuinely helpful friend, and it's obvious you're trying hard to help your buddy. No drama.

About the blue caps, I'll stay on the lookout. Goodness knows I burn way too much time digging through COAs. That said, my very first shot sent me on quite a journey in the bathroom, so it's possible it's just the meds taking some getting used to. Was it filtered? That might be worth trying?
 
HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Airborne Daddy said:

HereKittyKitty said:

Before you passed it along to another person, weren't you holding a 3p CoA?

Before pinning, test all of it.
Naturally not. You're saying you won't purchase unless there's a legitimate 3p COA that covers endos? By the time you place an order, chances are it's a restock using identical caps. For a US warehouse, that's a different story—I'm aware they clear inventory within 3 days.

What exactly are you getting at?

Sure, there have been times I bought something without a legit CoA in hand — but I never injected it, and I wouldn't have thought about passing it along until that digital document existed.

Is there something I'm not seeing?
What good is a COA that reports 99.35% at 22mg if there's no endotoxin result? Not every product gets an endo test. It's uncommon for a single person to fund one and then post it. Testing groups often keep results private from outsiders, and no group buy for t20 has included endos in the past year.

Yes, I'm part of a testing group and I've chipped in for assays on items I don't even use, plus I add tips during group buys to maximize testing...They needed it done immediately. Nobody's going to ask me to sit on it for 3 months waiting on an endo.
Appreciate the explanation. Clearly there was a detail I'd overlooked.

Most of my purchases happen through group buys where endo testing is baked into the deal by whoever runs it. Beyond that, luck has played a big part (and I mean that sincerely) — I've managed to slide into independent groups for products that were still on the market, and we put it to a vote to add endo.

What's frustrating is that flying solo makes it hard to guarantee a spot in a testing group, and that bugs me. Being tied to lead times that stretch over months is not something I enjoy. Whenever my stash starts running thin, the worry kicks in — that anxious feeling that I won't line up the testing setup that matches what I'm comfortable with.
That R140 I picked up some time ago—I'm handling it the same way. On that purchase, the Endo part had some mix-ups. Come Thursday, WW was going to hand over samples for fresh testing.
 
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