Seeking peptide suggestions for my father in law

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Hi everyone. This community has helped me a lot on my own path, and now I could use some input on something very serious.

My father in law developed intense pain in his shoulder, arm and hand, which turned out to be from compression of the cervical spine.

He underwent surgery -

ACDF (Anterior Cervical Discectomy and Fusion) is a common, generally safe surgical procedure to treat neck pain and nerve compression by removing a damaged disc from the front of the neck and fusing the adjacent vertebrae

The operation did not turn out as hoped, and his condition is now significantly worse.

He currently has SEVERE spinal compression at all levels of the cervical spine. There is damage to the radial nerve (we believe) from the surgery, which is behind the problem with his right hand (he cannot make a fist, it is very limp). He has lost mobility in the right leg, along with intermittent weakness and numbness in the left leg. Pain remains in the left shoulder, arm and so on, same as before the operation.

Physio has been tried and is not doing much.

So I wanted to ask whether anyone here could suggest peptides that might be of help??

Honestly this is our last shot in the dark, since everything else has been tried.

I am aware of the usual ones such as BPC, TB500 and so on for injuries, but I recall reading about a celebrity, Jeremy Renner, who was in a serious snow plow accident and was using things like Mots-c, Thymosin Alpha and others I cannot remember, so I figured you guys might have some good ideas.

Of course I understand this carries risk and all that, but in my view things cannot get much worse for him.

Thanks to all of you ahead of time.
 
It’s tough to see him go through this, and I can imagine the toll it’s taken on his daily life.

If it were me, I’d start by researching KPV before BPC or TB4. From what I’ve seen, it’s great for inflammation—something he probably has a lot of after surgery and with these lingering problems—and it can ease pain fairly fast in my own experience.

It could also be worth reading up on ARA-290. Should some of his persistent pain be nerve-related, that might be worth looking into.

Wishing you both the best.
 
Dos-Dox said:

It’s tough to see him go through this, and I can imagine the toll it’s taken on his daily life.

If it were me, I’d start by researching KPV before BPC or TB4. From what I’ve seen, it’s great for inflammation—something he probably has a lot of after surgery and with these lingering problems—and it can ease pain fairly fast in my own experience.

It could also be worth reading up on ARA-290. Should some of his persistent pain be nerve-related, that might be worth looking into.

Wishing you both the best.
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Appreciate it, I will definitely look into those. Thanks so much for the assistance
 
Wow, what an awful result. 9 months back, my husband went through ACDF. A rod was put into the front as well as the back of his neck. His fingers are still numb, and he uses a fair amount of pain medication plus flexaril. The intense pain your FIL is dealing with isn't something he has. It truly sounds dreadful.

Since I'm completely new, I have nothing to suggest regarding peps. I'm only posting to say how sorry I am that things haven't turned out well for him. 🥺
 
mtomm said:

Wow, what an awful result. 9 months back, my husband went through ACDF. A rod was put into the front as well as the back of his neck. His fingers are still numb, and he uses a fair amount of pain medication plus flexaril. The intense pain your FIL is dealing with isn't something he has. It truly sounds dreadful.

Since I'm completely new, I have nothing to suggest regarding peps. I'm only posting to say how sorry I am that things haven't turned out well for him. 🥺
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Thanks anyway for the nice words 🙏🏼
 
I can't suggest anything specific—my knowledge on this subject is too limited. What I can do is send encouragement your way, and to him, as you both look for care that helps and a path toward healing. Living with this, and watching someone you love live with it, is something I struggle to even picture. *Warm hug
 
HereKittyKitty said:

I can't suggest anything specific—my knowledge on this subject is too limited. What I can do is send encouragement your way, and to him, as you both look for care that helps and a path toward healing. Living with this, and watching someone you love live with it, is something I struggle to even picture. *Warm hug
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Thanks 🙏🏼
 
To start, I'm sending up prayers for recovery and strength.

BPC157/TB500 (the "wolverine" blend/stack) might be a solid option to consider. Both my wife and I experienced significant improvement and easing of both sudden and long-standing aches and pains (we're each close to 60, blue-collar people dealing with "work life" wear and tear on top of more serious injuries). There are plenty of other peptides that might also be beneficial, but I don't want to recommend anything else without additional details about the person in question (and honestly, I'm not the right person to do that anyway). What I would say is that if he's open to trying a Wolverine protocol or another option on the milder end of things, then he, you, and anyone else who's interested can dig deeper into the remaining choices to figure out if he's willing to research (the kind involving pin sticking, not just reading online) some of the other things out there. Regardless, blessings to you for looking for help as well!
 
LabRatts said:

To start, I'm sending up prayers for recovery and strength.

BPC157/TB500 (the "wolverine" blend/stack) might be a solid option to consider. Both my wife and I experienced significant improvement and easing of both sudden and long-standing aches and pains (we're each close to 60, blue-collar people dealing with "work life" wear and tear on top of more serious injuries). There are plenty of other peptides that might also be beneficial, but I don't want to recommend anything else without additional details about the person in question (and honestly, I'm not the right person to do that anyway). What I would say is that if he's open to trying a Wolverine protocol or another option on the milder end of things, then he, you, and anyone else who's interested can dig deeper into the remaining choices to figure out if he's willing to research (the kind involving pin sticking, not just reading online) some of the other things out there. Regardless, blessings to you for looking for help as well!
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Thanks a lot for getting back to me. I get that plenty of folks hold back on sharing an opinion because they worry they don't know enough, but all I want is pointers on where to dig. It goes without saying that I wouldn't just toss him onto peptides without doing serious research first.

Yeah, the wolverine stack was honestly the very first option that popped into my head.

My hope is that others on here could chip in with different suggestions or personal experiences that might fit too.

I appreciate the recommendation and the kind words once more.
 
I'm 100% sure you've got his best interests at heart, Porc! There's a TON of signalling crossover in this peptide science, I think (i may be putting that badly, go figure) — so a wolverine stack looks like a very safe place to start (barring anything specific that's unknown or undisclosed as yet), and beyond that it improves further, once goals and tools get more specific-
 
Years back, I went through the very same procedure. It's terrible that your father isn't finding any relief after surgery and that things have gotten worse for him.

Even post-surgery, I should mention, the radiculopathy that ran down my arms — the tingling and numbness — still reached my hands.

I started myself on a KLOW stack using a single vial, and I saw my finger numbness drop by roughly 60%, which felt like a major victory. On top of that, the flare-ups of pain in my neck have become far less regular, and whenever they hit, they don't stick around as long.

I chose to pause nearly everything for March, just to reset, and a few of those aches and pains are creeping back somewhat... yet the numbness hasn't risen again (at minimum 2 weeks into this break).

Seems like this is the kind of long-shot, Hail Mary scenario. What's there to lose? That's a question only your dad can respond to. As far as I'm concerned, anything that boosts my mobility and eases pain, without being a narcotic, counts as a major victory.
 
PorcShanc said:

Hi everyone. This community has helped me a lot on my own path, and now I could use some input on something very serious.

My father in law developed intense pain in his shoulder, arm and hand, which turned out to be from compression of the cervical spine.

He underwent surgery -

ACDF (Anterior Cervical Discectomy and Fusion) is a common, generally safe surgical procedure to treat neck pain and nerve compression by removing a damaged disc from the front of the neck and fusing the adjacent vertebrae

The operation did not turn out as hoped, and his condition is now significantly worse.

He currently has SEVERE spinal compression at all levels of the cervical spine. There is damage to the radial nerve (we believe) from the surgery, which is behind the problem with his right hand (he cannot make a fist, it is very limp). He has lost mobility in the right leg, along with intermittent weakness and numbness in the left leg. Pain remains in the left shoulder, arm and so on, same as before the operation.

Physio has been tried and is not doing much.

So I wanted to ask whether anyone here could suggest peptides that might be of help??

Honestly this is our last shot in the dark, since everything else has been tried.

I am aware of the usual ones such as BPC, TB500 and so on for injuries, but I recall reading about a celebrity, Jeremy Renner, who was in a serious snow plow accident and was using things like Mots-c, Thymosin Alpha and others I cannot remember, so I figured you guys might have some good ideas.

Of course I understand this carries risk and all that, but in my view things cannot get much worse for him.

Thanks to all of you ahead of time.
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That is such an awful spot to be stuck in... Not just for him, but for you too. Since I'm still a beginner when it comes to peptides, I don't have anything to add beyond what's already been said by others here. One thought crossed my mind: maybe run your ideas past his care team first, and talking to a lawyer probably wouldn't be a bad move either — even though I can't stand lawyers and I'm not exactly fond of doctors myself. I went through a back surgery that turned out differently than expected. It's good that you're reaching out...
 
LabRatts said:

I'm 100% sure you've got his best interests at heart, Porc! There's a TON of signalling crossover in this peptide science, I think (i may be putting that badly, go figure) — so a wolverine stack looks like a very safe place to start (barring anything specific that's unknown or undisclosed as yet), and beyond that it improves further, once goals and tools get more specific-
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Appreciate it. I’ll begin with the glow stack for sure and check how it works out.
 
PorcShanc said:

Hi everyone. This community has helped me a lot on my own path, and now I could use some input on something very serious.

My father in law developed intense pain in his shoulder, arm and hand, which turned out to be from compression of the cervical spine.

He underwent surgery -

ACDF (Anterior Cervical Discectomy and Fusion) is a common, generally safe surgical procedure to treat neck pain and nerve compression by removing a damaged disc from the front of the neck and fusing the adjacent vertebrae

The operation did not turn out as hoped, and his condition is now significantly worse.

He currently has SEVERE spinal compression at all levels of the cervical spine. There is damage to the radial nerve (we believe) from the surgery, which is behind the problem with his right hand (he cannot make a fist, it is very limp). He has lost mobility in the right leg, along with intermittent weakness and numbness in the left leg. Pain remains in the left shoulder, arm and so on, same as before the operation.

Physio has been tried and is not doing much.

So I wanted to ask whether anyone here could suggest peptides that might be of help??

Honestly this is our last shot in the dark, since everything else has been tried.

I am aware of the usual ones such as BPC, TB500 and so on for injuries, but I recall reading about a celebrity, Jeremy Renner, who was in a serious snow plow accident and was using things like Mots-c, Thymosin Alpha and others I cannot remember, so I figured you guys might have some good ideas.

Of course I understand this carries risk and all that, but in my view things cannot get much worse for him.

Thanks to all of you ahead of time.
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It's truly awful to hear what happened to your father in law. I'm not familiar with Irish law, but is there any equivalent to a medical malpractice claim in Ireland? A straightforward discectomy plus a single level fusion really shouldn't result in this entire nightmare situation.
 
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