RT10 Light blue *CLEAR cap

[BNLFL]

Chili777 said:

Nate2plate said:

BNLFL said:

Nate2plate said:

R10N105p <<<<<

What is the origin of those numbers?

Are you asking where the Batch # can be found?

Nope—my question was whether the problem starts at the factory or at the testing site. The batch I shared earlier carries a different number. The cap looks identical, yet the place I use got excellent test results. I notice plenty of posts calling out specific cap colors, but wouldn’t batch numbers give a more precise picture? I’m just asking out of curiosity—I’m new here and still figuring out how all of this operates.

A few vendors take batch numbers seriously, which is what makes those numbers worth paying attention to. With others, they claim to assign them, yet the same numbers keep getting reused, so they end up telling you almost nothing.

Plenty of vendors don't list batch numbers whatsoever, which pushes people toward using cap color instead. The problem is that cap color can shift at any moment, a color can run out partway through a batch, or a vendor may simply not want to use a given color — so it's unreliable and never fully precise, though at times it's the only option available. There have also been problems that crossed several different cap colors.

So testing ends up being the sole reliable method to know precisely what you have, whether you test it yourself, someone in the group tests and shares the results, or you sign up with a group that handles testing and contribute. Testing groups exist across the interwebs, and these days they carry more weight than ever.

There's a single supplier I rely on who puts batch numbers on every kit lid, though he skips testing altogether. For results, I've consistently turned to STG or Flying Purple. The second source was inconsistent, yet ran tests on all their products. I can't speak to the GB items since I haven't received one, but tracking exists for one, and the April/May options appear nearly ready.

 

[Chili777]

BNLFL said:

Chili777 said:

Nate2plate said:

BNLFL said:

Nate2plate said:

R10N105p <<<<<

What is the origin of those numbers?

Are you asking where the Batch # can be found?

Nope—my question was whether the problem starts at the factory or at the testing site. The batch I shared earlier carries a different number. The cap looks identical, yet the place I use got excellent test results. I notice plenty of posts calling out specific cap colors, but wouldn’t batch numbers give a more precise picture? I’m just asking out of curiosity—I’m new here and still figuring out how all of this operates.

A few vendors take batch numbers seriously, which is what makes those numbers worth paying attention to. With others, they claim to assign them, yet the same numbers keep getting reused, so they end up telling you almost nothing.

Plenty of vendors don't list batch numbers whatsoever, which pushes people toward using cap color instead. The problem is that cap color can shift at any moment, a color can run out partway through a batch, or a vendor may simply not want to use a given color — so it's unreliable and never fully precise, though at times it's the only option available. There have also been problems that crossed several different cap colors.

So testing ends up being the sole reliable method to know precisely what you have, whether you test it yourself, someone in the group tests and shares the results, or you sign up with a group that handles testing and contribute. Testing groups exist across the interwebs, and these days they carry more weight than ever.

There's a single supplier I rely on who puts batch numbers on every kit lid, though he skips testing altogether. For results, I've consistently turned to STG or Flying Purple. The second source was inconsistent, yet ran tests on all their products. I can't speak to the GB items since I haven't received one, but tracking exists for one, and the April/May options appear nearly ready.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the one you're talking about, and these days hardly any of them stay reliable.

 

[5byfive]

This case illustrates that the color of a cap doesn't tell the whole story. From SBP, I picked up some R10 with a blue transparent cap during the past 6 months. Testing wasn't something I did myself, but 4 COAs came from groups that did test it. As far as I can tell, their supply chain is not shared with Barn, and complaints about SPB R10 haven't shown up. The same holds for Orage Cap T30. JEEP's T30 was completely different from what WBS/ERP sold, yet the cap color matched. For spotting batch changes from a single vendor it appears to be a somewhat better signal (though not conclusive), but given how many doses and products exist, coincidences of this kind do keep appearing.

 

[Bird_of_Hermes]

Chili777 said:

Mochizuki0124 said:

I've been noticing problems with the R10 light blue caps coming from several vendors. Has anyone else gotten that batch? Could they all be coming from one factory, and is that batch likely compromised?

Barn/XTP is selling R10s that fit this description. Purity came back at 89%, and refunds for buyers have been agreed to by the vendors. Other sellers might be carrying the same thing. A testing group is also in progress. The post, picture and COA have all been shared publicly.

Edit: Barn have been booted from STG. XTP was prior to today.

A different vendor carrying identical caps was tested by another group, and their results came out similar—roughly 90% purity. Because of my present tag status, I can't name them, though I can say they're a vendor both here and on STG.

That said, someone else on that platform shared a CoA showing above 99% purity, yet it was over 20% under filled, within a narrow window and with the same caps…

Since these vendors don't label batches, there's no way to know what you're really getting—but when this kind of thing happens over a short period, it becomes more plausible that they're using the same finisher.

 

[midlifeoptimized]

I ordered an r10 recently and it hasn't arrived yet. I'm crossing my fingers it isn't that exact unit. Where did you come across that report?

 

[Bird_of_Hermes]

midlifeoptimized said:

I ordered an r10 recently and it hasn't arrived yet. I'm crossing my fingers it isn't that exact unit. Where did you come across that report?

That earlier one showed up in STG’s TG.

 

[Llanitox]

My r10 vials have light blue transparent caps and they're extremely cloudy. I went back to the vendor and used hospira — of the 2 hospira vials, 1 came out clear while the other had a faint tint.

I sent it for testing and it passed, but from what I gather this batch has a tfa problem (leftover residual salts from the manufacturing process)

So the issue seems to be with the PH

 

[dogmom]

Llanitox said:

My r10 vials have light blue transparent caps and they're extremely cloudy. I went back to the vendor and used hospira — of the 2 hospira vials, 1 came out clear while the other had a faint tint.

I sent it for testing and it passed, but from what I gather this batch has a tfa problem (leftover residual salts from the manufacturing process)

So the issue seems to be with the PH

How pure was it?

I picked up some reta that I believe came out of this same manufacturing batch. The moment it arrived I mixed up 1 vial, but I didn't inspect it closely before injecting, so cloudy is a possibility. idk. I was fine.

Then the other week, after reconstituting and taking a real look, I saw it was cloudy, so I tossed it. I wound up using some reta I had kept from a different source. This week I gave another vial from this box a try and the same cloudy thing happened. Hospira is what I use.

Sending a vial to Jano crossed my mind, but I'm not sure the money is justified. I have 2 boxes of this type.

Mine had the light blue clear caps shown in the pictures here, and they were R10. I'm just really ticked off. I figured my supplier was a good one.

 

[Llanitox]

dogmom said:

Llanitox said:

My r10 vials have light blue transparent caps and they're extremely cloudy. I went back to the vendor and used hospira — of the 2 hospira vials, 1 came out clear while the other had a faint tint.

I sent it for testing and it passed, but from what I gather this batch has a tfa problem (leftover residual salts from the manufacturing process)

So the issue seems to be with the PH

How pure was it?

I picked up some reta that I believe came out of this same manufacturing batch. The moment it arrived I mixed up 1 vial, but I didn't inspect it closely before injecting, so cloudy is a possibility. idk. I was fine.

Then the other week, after reconstituting and taking a real look, I saw it was cloudy, so I tossed it. I wound up using some reta I had kept from a different source. This week I gave another vial from this box a try and the same cloudy thing happened. Hospira is what I use.

Sending a vial to Jano crossed my mind, but I'm not sure the money is justified. I have 2 boxes of this type.

Mine had the light blue clear caps shown in the pictures here, and they were R10. I'm just really ticked off. I figured my supplier was a good one.

99.7% purity, with a 1.2g overfill.

Sadly, the tests don't reveal the TFA salts, nor do they show pH. That said, I was able to save a portion of the vials. I left them at room temperature for no less than an hour before gradually adding the Hospira. There was still a faint tint under light, but it's entirely safe to use — the peptide isn't what's compromised.