Relocating to a new country with meds?

[bamagirl26]

someone I know is relocating to Europe with spouse and they are both on Rx Zep. Planning for the move, they have been spreading out doses to build a little pile. They also just signed up for a 3 month compound special so that they will have about 5 months each (and they actually really do both need these meds.. they are lifesaving for them).

They wanted that buffer knowing it may take time to get into the new country's healthcare and (hopefully) be able to get their meds. They are not wild party animals, just two retired Americans who are actually moving because the cost of healthcare here is just too high for them to sustain.

Will they have trouble bringing the meds. I told them they should get a letter from doc, but they think the Rx receipts are enough. I think it's a risk. Not that they will get in trouble, but some of the quantity may be taken?? Thoughts?

 

[BBA1969]

bamagirl26 said:


someone I know is relocating to Europe with spouse and they are both on Rx Zep. Planning for the move, they have been spreading out doses to build a little pile. They also just signed up for a 3 month compound special so that they will have about 5 months each (and they actually really do both need these meds.. they are lifesaving for them).

They wanted that buffer knowing it may take time to get into the new country's healthcare and (hopefully) be able to get their meds. They are not wild party animals, just two retired Americans who are actually moving because the cost of healthcare here is just too high for them to sustain.

Will they have trouble bringing the meds. I told them they should get a letter from doc, but they think the Rx receipts are enough. I think it's a risk. Not that they will get in trouble, but some of the quantity may be taken?? Thoughts?

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I don't know for sure but I don't think traveling with prescription medication poses a problem over here. Diabetics do it all the time.

We don't have compounding pharmacies that mix the compound for you. In Belgium Tirzepatide is only sold under the form of the Mounjaro KwikPen. Each pen has 4 doses. Since I don't buy them anymore I don't know if there is still that "Golden 5th dose).

Prices per pen:

7,5 mg: €332,80

10 mg: €332,80

12,5 mg: €410,88

15 mg: €410,88

Most cost efficient way is to get the 15mg pen prescribed and count clicks.

They will need to get a prescription of a Belgian MD.

Or go grey like I did ; )

 

[eidos]

It's the same in France as in Belgium.

I paid €250 (US$280) a month for six months for Mounjaro, which my doctor prescribed. Since April, it has cost me less than US$50 on the grey market.

The only thing worth bringing is the Hospira BAC. But there are alternatives.

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[bamagirl26]

BBA1969 said:


I don't know for sure but I don't think traveling with prescription medication poses a problem over here. Diabetics do it all the time.

We don't have compounding pharmacies that mix the compound for you. In Belgium Tirzepatide is only sold under the form of the Mounjaro KwikPen. Each pen has 4 doses. Since I don't buy them anymore I don't know if there is still that "Golden 5th dose).

Prices per pen:

7,5 mg: €332,80

10 mg: €332,80

12,5 mg: €410,88

15 mg: €410,88

Most cost efficient way is to get the 15mg pen prescribed and count clicks.

They will need to get a prescription of a Belgian MD.

Or go grey like I did ; )

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yeah, retirees cant be paying 1000 euro for meds! Her concern is hers is Zepbound, nit Mounjaro

 

[bamagirl26]

eidos said:


It's the same in France as in Belgium.

I paid €250 (US$280) a month for six months for Mounjaro, which my doctor prescribed. Since April, it has cost me less than US$50 on the grey market.

The only thing worth bringing is the Hospira BAC. But there are alternatives.

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her compounded is already mixed from a US pharmaceutical, but she may brave the elements and do this one day. What BAC with Hospira level quality do europeans use? Like, do you have your own gold standard on BAC?

 

[miameow]

bamagirl26 said:


Will they have trouble bringing the meds. I told them they should get a letter from doc, but they think the Rx receipts are enough. I think it's a risk. Not that they will get in trouble, but some of the quantity may be taken?? Thoughts?

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I’m afraid you won’t get answers that are relevant to your friends without knowing which country in Europe they’re moving to. That said, I’ve moved within Europe and between continents multiple times with lots of medication (without letters) and, luckily, have never had any issues. But again, that’s not a guarantee. The other option is for your friends to send the meds over by post so they don’t have to worry about issues at the border, although that can create its own issues.

bamagirl26 said:


What BAC with Hospira level quality do europeans use? Like, do you have your own gold standard on BAC?

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Same issue here. You’ll get different answers depending on the country. Europe is a continent, not a country. Of course, Hospira is still the gold standard, but the issue is accessibility, and that will vary depending on which country in Europe you’re referring to.

 

[bamagirl26]

ireland Right by Grandpa Eli! hahahahaha

 

[eidos]

bamagirl26 said:


her compounded is already mixed from a US pharmaceutical, but she may brave the elements and do this one day. What BAC with Hospira level quality do europeans use? Like, do you have your own gold standard on BAC?

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BAC is not used or sold in Europe because the standard formulations are single-dose.

There are several threads on the forum discussing alternative sources. It ranges from importing Pfizer from Canada to making your own BAC using sterile water and pure BA.

And even boiled water from China or India /j

 

[bamagirl26]

eidos said:


BAC is not used or sold in Europe because the standard formulations are single-dose.

There are several threads on the forum discussing alternative sources. It ranges from importing Pfizer from Canada to making your own BAC using sterile, pure BA water.

And even boiled water from China or India /j

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ah, ok interesting!

 

[miameow]

bamagirl26 said:


ireland Right by Grandpa Eli! hahahahaha

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Ah.. unfortunately I'm from England, and trust me that will not help you or your friends at all. But we do have some Irish members here, so hopefully they’ll chime in with something more useful.

 

[Thighknee]

bamagirl26 said:


ireland Right by Grandpa Eli! hahahahaha

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The best country and culture on earth

They would 100% need doctors letters + prescriptions stating how much medicine they need and how much they are bringing with them and for how long, generally in Irelandwe can only get a maximumof one month's supply of prescription meds at a time so I'm not sure if there is a maximum amount a person is allowed to bring through through.

It's worth the chance with the doctors letters if you ask me, once they can't be used for recreational drug taking they should be fine!

 

[ultima thule]

If they retired they may apply for medical card. Then all gp visits are free, and some particular meds cost something about €2-4. But believe glp-1 meds are not under mc scheme.

 

[eidos]

bamagirl26 said:


yeah, retirees cant be paying 1000 euro for meds! Her concern is hers is Zepbound, nit Mounjaro

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Zepbound is not avalaible in FR. I don't know about other countries. There are licensed pharmacies that sell online.

Only Mounjaro from 2.5mg to 15mg/dose, 4 doses per pen. Still Tirzepatide. (https://www.vidal.fr/medicaments/gammes/mounjaro-kwikpen-115324.html)

(You'll have to use the auto-translate feature because the numbers are in French

If you have any idea which country they're going to, that would help to have more specific information. There are people from all over the EU on the forum.

 

[BBA1969]

Zepbound (US and others) = Mounjaro (Europe and others) Just another form of delivery and market approval, the compound is the same.

In most EU countries there are way less options to get GLP's: Either an MD prescribes it or you have to buy from single vial sellers/grey. For other peptides, there even is no MD option.

If they really want Hospira, maybe someone could send it fto them from time to time ; )

They wil only have use for Hospira if they get the peptides.

 

[bamagirl26]

ultima thule said:


If they retired they may apply for medical card. Then all gp visits are free, and some particular meds cost something about €2-4. But believe glp-1 meds are not under mc scheme.

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I should have prefaced, moving HOME to Ireland after most life spent in US, so fortunately the legalities are all handled.. but she's heard that it is very hard to get into a GP with wait lists and whatnot

 

[bamagirl26]

BBA1969 said:


Zepbound (US and others) = Mounjaro (Europe and others) Just another form of delivery and market approval, the compound is the same.

In most EU countries there are way less options to get GLP's: Either an MD prescribes it or you have to buy from single vial sellers/grey. For other peptides, there even is no MD option.

If they really want Hospira, maybe someone could send it fto them from time to time ; )

They wil only have use for Hospira if they get the peptides.

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Thank you!

 

[bamagirl26]

ultima thule said:


If they retired they may apply for medical card. Then all gp visits are free, and some particular meds cost something about €2-4. But believe glp-1 meds are not under mc scheme.

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Also, if a doc in Ie prescribes Mounjaro, it's still patient pay, right? Id imagine gray is very popular there for that reason cause I know there are no compounders.

 

[ultima thule]

bamagirl26 said:


I should have prefaced, moving HOME to Ireland after most life spent in US, so fortunately the legalities are all handled.. but she's heard that it is very hard to get into a GP with wait lists and whatnot

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Depends where to. In smaller towns it's less hard, than in bigger towns, or Cities, which we have just a couple in the country...and them still as big as a large village in States

bamagirl26 said:


Also, if a doc in Ie prescribes Mounjaro, it's still patient pay, right? Id imagine gray is very popular there for that reason cause I know there are no compounders.

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To get a prescription for glp is quite easy. Even online, when you are due to, regarding diabetes or obesity...but yeah it's quite expensive then...don't know exact prices, because was never interested in legal sources of glp

And btw Hospira is accessible in Ireland, but ya have to get deep in the rabbit hole...

 

[cheaperseeker]

bamagirl26 said:


yeah, retirees cant be paying 1000 euro for meds! Her concern is hers is Zepbound, nit Mounjaro

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Zepbound and Mounjaro are the same thing - tirzepitide. Either way, I hope they are able to bring their stash. It really is life changing! They can ask their Dr for a prescription just so they have the paperwork, they don't have to actually get it filled.

BBA1969 said:


Zepbound (US and others) = Mounjaro (Europe and others) Just another form of delivery and market approval, the compound is the same.

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We have both Zepbound and Mounjaro in the US, they are just marketed for different things. Zepbound for weight loss and Mounjaro for diabetes. As you said, they both tirz.