Recreational substances and retatrutide

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Hey folks,

Just got back from Shambhala Music Festival. My yearly retreat to engage in some hedonistic behaviours.

As a lot of interactions have yet to be explored I feel this could be valuable information to put out into the world.

Cocaine: Has nearly no effect. There is no dopamine spike. 100% see how GLP1s are helping people kick this addiction.

Acid: First night thought my friend had weak or bad acid. Maybe expired because nothing happened. Bought from another friend who had just had an amazing experience the night before and also absolutely nothing.

MDMA: Came as a mixed capsule so likely mdma mixed with some mda or speed. The purpose of that mix is that pure mdma is not a great dancing drug it is a hug and love drug. This had a far more mellow effect than normal. No talking peoples ear off, not soak into a comfy seat satisfaction with the world. It was very nice but nowhere near as strong as it is normally.

2CB: This was my first time try this so have no previous experience to compare to. It was mellow but fun. Mild visuals, mild energy bump. Nice.

Ketamine: Almost no change
 
Discussing schedule I drugs seems like a good way to get the Ole Ban Hammer.




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Discussing schedule I drugs seems like a good way to get the Ole Ban Hammer. View attachment 33569

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Oh weird. I had done a post on ketamine before.

I’ll read the rules, don’t want to get banned, just want to share information
 
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Gave the rules a read and there is no specific rule on this yet. It may be the forum owner could add it in the future and I would understand.

There is a section in the rules on harm reduction and I think discussing drug interactions is helpful.

What if someone decided to double, triple , or go crazy on a cocaine or MDMA dose thinking they just had weak stuff? Not knowing that a reduced reaction to some of the desirable effects was normal. They could do long lasting and harmful damage to themselves.

Getting this information out there is in a sense harm reduction
 
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Oh weird. I had done a post on ketamine before.

I’ll read the rules, don’t want to get banned, just want to share information

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Ketamime is a schedule III drug. Anyone can search and read the forums. I don't think we want to be associated with schedule I drug use. Not a good look. I imagine this thread will get nuked.
 
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Ketamime is a schedule III drug. Anyone can search and read the forums. I don't think we want to be associated with schedule I drug use. Not a good look. I imagine this thread will get nuked.

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Well I think the schedule doesn’t so much matter, I am not even American.

Hoping people are more interested in discussing things from a harm reduction standpoint like the rules suggest than from an arbitrary war on drugs standpoint that has done America and certainly this forum few favours
 
The Ban Hammer is a bit if a joke. There is no bad intent so I don't actually think you would get banned. I do think the thread will get nuked. Peptides attract enough negative media attention without adding discussion of Schedule I drugs.
 
My party days are in the past, but this is great info! Ketamine is often used in a lot of medical and psychiatric treatments, so from a strictly medical standpoint, this is great for letting medical staff know. Thank you for your research and sharing it. 🫡

And if the thread will be nuked anyway (or not), I will share that my BFF is very smart, Ivy League-educated & is medicine woman who leads spiritual retreats using a traditional Peruvian medicine that begins with "Ay." She says GLP-1s are not contraindicated for it, but to do the shot as far away as possible from the retreat, like 6-7 days. She did not comment on the effect of the traditional meds for GLP-1 users, which would also be difficult data to get since it's not a trad med that is easy to access/common (ish these days) so I doubt many folks can compare pre & post GLP-1 experiences.

I can share that tirz has no effect on cannabis (legal in NY 😉) if I use it through smoking, vaping or drinking the sodas. The edibles...my digestion is so slow that the party/pain relief happens for me way out of sync from others. Still get it, but have to wait a lot longer.
 
5byfive said:


The Ban Hammer is a bit if a joke. There is no bad intent so I don't actually think you would get banned. I do think the thread will get nuked. Peptides attract enough negative media attention without adding discussion of Schedule I drugs.

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Schedule I is a made up construct that we all know is a joke. MDMA and LSD have been tested for medical purposes in countless jurisdictions including America. They certainly have less addictive potential than countless legal drugs in America such as tobacco and alcohol.

Even the recent FDA hearings on peptides, although the partisan board voted in favour of the peptides, the arguments made by career government scientists (this is coming from someone who believes in good governance and the role of government in society) showed the lack of seriousness in discussing the possible helpful nature of these.

Heck even the board, in its overrule of the scientists recommendations, pointed out keeping these drugs banned would only encourage more dangerous behaviours and results as people continued to seek them.

You and those here who wish to ban the discussion of interactions between peptides and other chemicals are also removing discussions which could save lives. The puritan idea that people will simply never do peptides and also do other things isn’t realistic and could do more harm.

I’m sorry you feel that a discussion here somehow associates you or peptides with other chemicals. There are people here discussing HGH and steroids and other things which many would not want to associate with but that is free for discussion it would seem.
 
Clavicular's Hammer said:


Gave the rules a read and there is no specific rule on this yet. It may be the forum owner could add it in the future and I would understand.

There is a section in the rules on harm reduction and I think discussing drug interactions is helpful.

What if someone decided to double, triple , or go crazy on a cocaine or MDMA dose thinking they just had weak stuff? Not knowing that a reduced reaction to some of the desirable effects was normal. They could do long lasting and harmful damage to themselves.

This getting this information out there is in a sense harm reduction

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I agree that this is good information to share. Lots of people use recreational substances. How they interact with prescription meds is not a subject most doctors or medical studies are going to broach.

While others may have completely different interactions, this is a good reminder for those who do use recreational drugs to keep in mind that GLP-1s can affect on how they work.
 
Clavicular's Hammer said:


Hey folks,

Just got back from Shambhala Music Festival. My yearly retreat to engage in some hedonistic behaviours.

As a lot of interactions have yet to be explored I feel this could be valuable information to put out into the world.

Cocaine: Has nearly no effect. There is no dopamine spike.

Acid: First night thought my friend had weak or bad acid. Maybe expired because nothing happened. Bought from another friend who had just had an amazing experience the night before and also absolutely nothing.

MDMA: Came as a mixed capsule so likely mdma mixed with some mda or speed. The purpose of that mix is that pure mdma is not a great dancing drug it is a hug and love drug. This had a far more mellow effect than normal. No talking peoples ear off, not soak into a comfy seat satisfaction with the world. It was very nice but nowhere near as strong as it is normally.

2CB: This was my first time try this so have no previous experience to compare to. It was mellow but fun. Mild visuals, mild energy bump. Nice.

Ketamine: Almost no change

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Mushrooms: Works as expected unless on the same day as my Retatrutide pin.
 
Since it would be foolish to pretend such topics don't exist, and since laws vary around the world and we serve a global audience, I'm going to let the topic stand for now, although I've made some edits and expect everyone to remain adults.
 
Thank you OP for trying this out and sharing your experience.

This is a reason for me to think twice about planning some events with recreational mind altering substances when on Reta.

I already expected it to influence dopamine emhancers.

I have a few events planned in the following months and will try to space the GLP1 as far away as possible. Fingers crossed it doesn't affect anything too much.

Anywayssss losing weight has made it possible to dance even longer being completely sober which I love! 😄
 
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