🚨BREAKING🚨 Several Discord Servers Nuked

tubby said:


Between this and announcing that they'll require biometrics/ID from users in the future, they're sure determined to kill their brand. I doubt it, but I hold out some hope that this will be the last straw that finally pushes zoomers and millennials to discover Internet Relay Chat (IRC). People keep reinventing the wheel in the group chat space for some reason, even thought it was a solved problem pre-2000.

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Everyone would need a VPN, possibly Tor. I think they need a VPN anyway, but that would eliminate a lot of people. Real anonymity could be compromised.
 
tubby said:


Between this and announcing that they'll require biometrics/ID from users in the future, they're sure determined to kill their brand. I doubt it, but I hold out some hope that this will be the last straw that finally pushes zoomers and millennials to discover Internet Relay Chat (IRC). People keep reinventing the wheel in the group chat space for some reason, even thought it was a solved problem pre-2000.

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CompuServe CB Simulator is where it was at.
 
Chili777 said:


Everyone would need a VPN, possibly Tor. I think they need a VPN anyway, but that would eliminate a lot of people. Real anonymity could be compromised.

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Forgive my middle aged ignorance, but do free VPNs you can get in the App Store on your phone not work for this? Or is there no equivalent easy route on desktop and that’s the issue?
 
Chili777 said:


Everyone would need a VPN, possibly Tor. I think they need a VPN anyway, but that would eliminate a lot of people. Real anonymity could be compromised.

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Why's that? Most aren't using VPNs or Tor with Discord or when posting to this site. I'd agree that it's best practices, but not strictly required for it to work and most will skip it.

Obviously if you're using a public IRC server the same pressures could be applied to whoever controls that server that are being applied to Discord. At that point users would presumably go further underground (e.g. what you're suggesting) or the discussion would move to servers physically located in China (or whatever jurisdiction proves to be friendly).

We already watched an equivalent cat and mouse game play out in regards to MP3s where deep pockets wanted to shut it down so people would keep buying $18 CDs instead of downloading music from Napster. A decade later The Pirate Bay was still linking to torrent files and hadn't been shut down for any extended period of time, despite the RIAA throwing millions of dollars at the problem from every angle they could come up with.

The main difference today is that normie Internet (e.g. Facebook, Tiktok, Xitter) can be used to gatekeep when pharma decides to start swinging their dick around harder and that will probably be good enough to deter the 80% of people who can't handle a process more complicated than installing an app on their iPhone and tapping a few buttons. Could easily be a repeat of when the RIAA shut down Napster (and its clones) and started suing people they detected sharing via torrents in court. That was enough to scare the normie Internet users of that time back into paying for their music, which was a good enough outcome for industry then and will translate into a good enough outcome for pharma soon too.
 
Nopenada said:


Forgive my middle aged ignorance, but do free VPNs you can get in the App Store on your phone not work for this? Or is there no equivalent easy route on desktop and that’s the issue?

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Free VPNs are notorious for malware/adware and the vast majority do not have 3rd party auditing. They also give no guarantees that they are nolog services. I use Proton VPN and it and other paid VPNs do post 3rd party audits.
 
Chili777 said:


Free VPNs are notorious for malware/adware and the vast majority do not have 3rd party auditing. They also give no guarantees that they are nolog services. I use Proton VPN and it and other paid VPNs do post 3rd party audits.

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I use Proton as well, so glad to hear that’s considered standard practice.
 
Nopenada said:


I use Proton as well, so glad to hear that’s considered standard practice.

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There are limitations to the free Proton VPN vs the paid service. Mostly around speed, number of servers available, country availability, device connectivity, and add-on features, but they do have audited nolog guarantees even for the free version. The paid VPN also has regular discounts and sales. I got a 2 year for $70 and that's around the cost of a kit of Semax.
 
Chili777 said:


There are limitations to the free Proton VPN vs the paid service. Mostly around speed, number of servers available, country availability, device connectivity, and add-on features, but they do have audited nolog guarantees even for the free version. The paid VPN also has regular discounts and sales. I got a 2 year for $70 and that's around the cost of a kit of Semax.

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You do just their VPN? I’ve bought their unlimited bundle for a year before but realized I just like the VPN and not much more so I hopped over to Mullvad
 
Ruckus4519 said:


You do just their VPN? I’ve bought their unlimited bundle for a year before but realized I just like the VPN and not much more so I hopped over to Mullvad

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Mostly the VPN, but I was thinking about the mail, too. I like the fact they are not US-based, especially in the current political climate.
 
MrZardoz said:


I've been using PIA (Private Internet Access) and its been keeping me safe from problems with various downloads for well over a decade - getting it over a year brings it down to around $3.33 a month.... my two cents worth - dont trust 'free' VPN's generally..

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I use them as well for nearly as long. At that time they were the only of the handful I tried that never leaked, resulting in a C&D from my ISP.
 
Chopper said:


I use them as well for nearly as long. At that time they were the only of the handful I tried that never leaked, resulting in a C&D from my ISP.

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Why would that be? Being on it increased your data traffic?
 
Ruckus4519 said:


Why would that be? Being on it increased your data traffic?

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No. There are a few unique cases where, even when using a VPN service, your actual IP address can be leaked. Most common is your OS doing DNS lookup outside of the tunnel. There are also a few others like when the VPN doesn't handle IPv6 correctly so that slips out of the tunnel or WebRTC issues.
 
MakeNoPeaceWithEvil said:


I been sticking to this forum and the STG Telegram...didn't know there were that many other groups lol

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Seems to be the best option. ⚠️Data Mining Site, TG, and the forums survive while my Discord gets nuked repeatedly! 😵
 
Ruckus4519 said:


Why would that be? Being on it increased your data traffic?

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No, I live in a rural area, at that time no broadband besides CenturyLink DSL was available. They did a short run of allowing bonded modems 2 phone lines resulting in up to 100mbps (slow I know) but was the fastest around here at the time. Myself and a neighbor both had that installed and bridged together, then shared with the entire block! We ran the vpn on our end. Anyways sometimes several of the ones we tried leaked our public ips and if anyone was doing anything CenturyLink deemed against TOS they sent C&D and disabled Internet until they got a response. Never happened once We switched to pia upon a coworker's recommendation.

Sorry for the unclear wording of my original post.
 
jw717us said:


No. There are a few unique cases where, even when using a VPN service, your actual IP address can be leaked. Most common is your OS doing DNS lookup outside of the tunnel. There are also a few others like when the VPN doesn't handle IPv6 correctly so that slips out of the tunnel or WebRTC issues.

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This is why you should change the default DNS to point to safe DNS servers. I do this on my router, VPN or not. Otherwise, your ISP can see every site you visit and can easily do pattern recognition, especially with AI. I'm not paranoid, I've just been in IT too long and have seen some shit.

This explains the issue: https://protonvpn.com/support/dns-leaks-privacy

Here are a couple, and there are more choices out there. I use Quad9. You change DNS1 to the first one and DNS2 to the second one for redundancy, in your router setup.

Cloudflare 1.1.1.1/1.0.0.1

Quad9 9.9.9.9/149.112.112.112
 
Chili777 said:


This is why you should change the default DNS to point to safe DNS servers. I do this on my router, VPN or not. Otherwise, your ISP can see every site you visit and can easily do pattern recognition, especially

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Exactly..... I stick with Adguard VPN and HTTPS DNS for a simple one button total package.
 
Chopper said:


up to 100mbps (slow I know) but was the fastest around here at the time.

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Man, I JUST got fiber 2 months ago and before that I could only get DSL that was 6 Mbps download, 0.6 Mbps upload. I would have loved your old slow service. 🙃We’re running 300 up/down now and loving it 😂
 
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