trojanpeptide said:
Handy chart... one caveat though: most of the Khavinson peptides on it have almost nothing backing up their function. Several of those extrapolated claims strike me as nonsense, and they trace back to BioLongevity Labs - a plain conflict of interests. I have raised this before, for instance: "FOXO1 is downregulated and NFkB upregulated by KED, aka
Vesugen (
linked paper)". There is no reason to boost NFkB (=inflammasome); that particular gene modulation is precisely the condition you find in esophageal cancers.
I built a comparable chart of my own, a bare-bones version, and a few contradictions surfaced:
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which is how things like GHK-Cu and BPC-157 end up where they do. BPC-157 is the one that needs a lot more work.
As for Kisspeptin, the claim is that it shields you from cancer ...
EDIT:
Spoiler: I put the whole thing through ChatGPT, and a couple of points came out:
1) The PE/PT-22-28 mix-up
What it tells you is that the
mechanism assignment in that forum table is likely off, and not only the risk score. The post calls "PT-22-28" a
stable VIP / VPAC agonist and then builds a tumor-survival worry out of VIP biology - except PE-22-28 is documented in the literature and in commercial reference material as a
spadin-derived TREK-1 blocker, an entirely different signaling class. The upshot:
VIP-style cancer logic got attached to the wrong peptide identity. As written, that row does not hold up.
2) BPC-157 is not one-directional "pro-cancer" in the literature
Fair point to press on. In some papers BPC-157 does carry
protective / anti-tumor-looking signals - there are reports of it suppressing melanoma cell growth and counteracting VEGF signaling in that model. Against that, the wider repair literature keeps describing BPC-157 as
pro-angiogenic, with VEGFR2 upregulation and VEGFR2-Akt-eNOS activation, along with more tube formation and better blood-flow recovery in ischemia models. So the accurate framing is
mixed and context-dependent - neither "clearly tumor-promoting" nor "clearly tumor-protective". Critics also note that the anti-cancer case is thin, since no convincing in vivo oncology dataset showing reduced tumor progression or metastasis exists.
Which brings BPC-157 down to a more accurate phrasing:
Attributed effect: a mix of angiogenesis and repair signaling; a possible anti-VEGF effect in a limited set of tumor models, alongside repeated VEGFR2-driven pro-angiogenic findings from non-cancer healing models.
Verifiability: weak to moderate for any sweeping cancer claim.