Oz: GLP-1s Can 'Jumpstart' Health, Slash Disease Spending by 70%

[Johnny D]

Oz ties obesity to rising chronic disease, claims GLP-1s may 'jumpstart' improved health#-dr-oz-links-obesity-to-chronic-disease-surge-says-glp-1s-can-jumpstart-better-health

CMS head: using weight-loss drugs to address obesity might reduce chronic disease spending by about 70%#-cms-administrator-says-tackling-o...ld-cut-chronic-disease-spending-by-roughly-70

Oz connects obesity to chronic disease increase, says GLP-1s can 'jumpstart' better health


Dr. Mehmet Oz supports GLP-1 weight loss drugs, yet emphasizes diet and exercise are still crucial, labeling obesity the leading cause of healthcare costs.

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[Skidude]

Johnny D said:

Oz ties obesity to rising chronic disease, claims GLP-1s may 'jumpstart' improved health#-dr-oz-links-obesity-to-chronic-disease-surge-says-glp-1s-can-jumpstart-better-health

CMS head: using weight-loss drugs to address obesity might reduce chronic disease spending by about 70%#-cms-administrator-says-tackling-o...ld-cut-chronic-disease-spending-by-roughly-70

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Oz connects obesity to chronic disease increase, says GLP-1s can 'jumpstart' better health


Dr. Mehmet Oz supports GLP-1 weight loss drugs, yet emphasizes diet and exercise are still crucial, labeling obesity the leading cause of healthcare costs.

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Brace yourselves for 60k more people joining....

Oprah's book club

 

[faloppi]

I'm not sure what the precise figure is, but overall I think that's definitely true (assuming safe and correct use).

 

[miameow]

Johnny D said:

Oz ties obesity to rising chronic disease, claims GLP-1s may 'jumpstart' improved health#-dr-oz-links-obesity-to-chronic-disease-surge-says-glp-1s-can-jumpstart-better-health

CMS head: using weight-loss drugs to address obesity might reduce chronic disease spending by about 70%#-cms-administrator-says-tackling-o...ld-cut-chronic-disease-spending-by-roughly-70

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Oz connects obesity to chronic disease increase, says GLP-1s can 'jumpstart' better health


Dr. Mehmet Oz supports GLP-1 weight loss drugs, yet emphasizes diet and exercise are still crucial, labeling obesity the leading cause of healthcare costs.

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Big news — obesity has a connection to chronic disease. Where would we be without this guy?

 

[angeliquereta]

If Dr. Oz is the one saying it, then we're in the clear

 

[Johnny D]

miameow said:

Johnny D said:

Oz ties obesity to rising chronic disease, claims GLP-1s may 'jumpstart' improved health#-dr-oz-links-obesity-to-chronic-disease-surge-says-glp-1s-can-jumpstart-better-health

CMS head: using weight-loss drugs to address obesity might reduce chronic disease spending by about 70%#-cms-administrator-says-tackling-o...ld-cut-chronic-disease-spending-by-roughly-70

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Oz connects obesity to chronic disease increase, says GLP-1s can 'jumpstart' better health


Dr. Mehmet Oz supports GLP-1 weight loss drugs, yet emphasizes diet and exercise are still crucial, labeling obesity the leading cause of healthcare costs.

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Big news — obesity has a connection to chronic disease. Where would we be without this guy?

Carrying even a small amount of extra weight—say, a modest beer belly—can raise the risk of chronic disease.

What most people fail to realize is that you don't need to be severely obese for this to happen.

Should everyone with even mild excess weight begin using GLP-1s, the impact on healthcare could be transformative.

 

[Habibibi]

I hope Oz realizes these medications require lifelong use, and that his bridge program won't remove participants once they hit a normal weight.

 

[birdwhacker]

Habibibi said:

I hope Oz realizes these medications require lifelong use, and that his bridge program won't remove participants once they hit a normal weight.

Starting when?

Plenty of folks get criticized for saying they intend to use these for life, yet that hardly seems like a requirement. And besides, haven't these medications only been around for roughly a decade or so?

 

[Gt3294a]

birdwhacker said:


Since when?

A lot of people talk shit about wanting to stay on them for life but it doesn't sound neccessary at all. Not to mention these drugs have only existed for what like ten years now?

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From what I gather, the research and design behind these compounds assumed extended or even lifelong use. They were meant to play a key role in insulin sensitivity for a specific population. So even though they're relatively recent, I doubt the hesitation around long-term use will end up being justified. Take how most people see ongoing blood pressure or similar medication as routine and recommended. Anyway, I'm mainly in it for what it does to my lab results.

 

[birdwhacker]

Gt3294a said:


My understanding is that these compounds were studied and intended to go on for long term or lifetime.

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What a drug was originally studied for or intended to do doesn't change how it actually works or what effects it produces.

Gt3294a said:


So while they are new, I’m not sure the long term use reluctance will ultimately be proven correct.

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Being cautious about using these medications long term makes sense, but it would be unfortunate if that caution led people to believe GLPs are only an option for long-term use, causing them to pass up something that could help.

 

[Gt3294a]

birdwhacker said:


Study and intent don't really have any bearing on the mechanisms of the drug or its actual effect.

It's smart to be reluctant about long term use, but I'd hate for people to get the impression that GLPs can only be used long term and end up missing out because of that.

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To me, the right lens is cost versus benefit. My weekly Reta dose varies with timing—sometimes 1mg, sometimes 1.5mg, other times 2mg. At those amounts, I've decided the upside beats the downside (and yes, someone could counter that long-term effects remain unclear). Still, blood work gives you a way to keep track and steer your broader decisions.

 

[birdwhacker]

Gt3294a said:


But you can monitor your blood work and guide your overall choices.

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I figure I'll hold off on that until the androgens kick in

With BMI and gray-market pricing in the picture, weighing the costs against the benefits isn't much of a puzzle.

 

[Habibibi]

birdwhacker said:


Since when?

A lot of people talk shit about wanting to stay on them for life but it doesn't sound neccessary at all. Not to mention these drugs have only existed for what like ten years now?

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If you check how stopping GLP1s plays out across the clinical trials that exist for them, you can draw your own conclusions. Remaining on a medication for decades to manage a chronic condition isn't a problem. And at present, what we use to treat this chronic condition is, essentially, chronic.

 

[birdwhacker]

Habibibi said:


You can look at the effects of discontinuation of GLP1s in the various clinical trials they have on them and come to your own conclusions.

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Clinical trials leave all sorts of variables uncontrolled. The typical individual lacks both the knowledge and the drive to track what they eat, stay active, and so on. As measurement tools, trials are crude in many respects. My guess is participants also quit the medication abruptly, having first escalated to needlessly large doses.

Broadly speaking, roughly 30% of lost weight tends to come back. The figure can be far higher, shaped by daily patterns, routines, years on the clock, and motivation.

Habibibi said:


Nothing wrong with staying on medication for decades for a chronic disease. And right now, the treatment for this chronic disease is, well, chronic.

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Not every chronic condition is destined to remain chronic forever. Some certainly are, yet it's wrong to act as though obesity and diabetes were never turned around before GLP-1s existed.

Claiming there's "Nothing wrong with staying on a medication for decades" doesn't hold up when the drug itself hasn't been around for decades. Nothing comes without a cost, and GLP-1s come with risks.

Still, I think I share the underlying sentiment you're expressing: nobody should be shamed for picking long-term medication over the chance of sliding back into worse health.

 

[kugelblitz]

If Dr Oz is backing peptides, that's the strongest argument I've come across yet for staying away from them.

 

[McFatty]

People really can be clueless. I work as both a mental health therapist and an acupuncturist. These days, many of the patients I see are taking a glp1. Whenever the conversation turns to what they eat, how they move, or the way food affects their system, they're completely lost. Even those with advanced degrees remain fairly uninformed. My belief is that this is the factor distorting those studies on weight regain after glp1 use. From my own experience with weight loss, I've seen that I hit a plateau at old set points and stay there quite a while before dropping to the next one. That makes me ask: how much time does the brain need to rewire itself before it can release?

 

[Elgordoboy]

Someone in that thread got piled on by nearly everyone for stating exactly what this community has been saying and what we've found to be accurate. Even siding with people doesn't win them over.

 

[grandpa_is_healthier]

Sometimes even a fool gets it right

 

[ladyj779]

grandpa_is_healthier said:

Sometimes even a fool gets it right

Are you seriously calling him an idiot? As in, you truly think he lacks intelligence?

Sure, I could buy the grifter angle, but this is a celebrated cardiothoracic surgeon who developed life-saving procedures. He has held a surgery professorship at Columbia and led a cardiovascular institute at a major NYC hospital.

So do you honestly think he's an idiot?

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Everyone take it easy for a second. I don't know why folks are so worked up today, but let it go.