Obese again

[Grogu]

5byfive said:

BMI works fine when you're looking at big groups of people. That's literally what it's built for. Using it to judge one person's health, though? That has to be one of the dumbest decisions we've ever made. Throwing waist to height ratios into the mix doesn't fix anything — it's just dressing up a pig.






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That is spot on. BMI was never intended to serve as a diagnostic instrument for individuals. For instance, if you look at a population sample and draw broad conclusions from it... For example, Japan's average BMI is 23 while the US sits at 29. In that context, BMI works well for gauging populations and their levels of excess weight.

What really drove home how flawed BMI is came when I came across the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger, during his competitive bodybuilding days, had a BMI of 31.5, which classified him as obese under BMI criteria.

 

[5byfive]

Grogu said:

5byfive said:

BMI works fine when you're looking at big groups of people. That's literally what it's built for. Using it to judge one person's health, though? That has to be one of the dumbest decisions we've ever made. Throwing waist to height ratios into the mix doesn't fix anything — it's just dressing up a pig.






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That is spot on. BMI was never intended to serve as a diagnostic instrument for individuals. For instance, if you look at a population sample and draw broad conclusions from it... For example, Japan's average BMI is 23 while the US sits at 29. In that context, BMI works well for gauging populations and their levels of excess weight.

What really drove home how flawed BMI is came when I came across the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger, during his competitive bodybuilding days, had a BMI of 31.5, which classified him as obese under BMI criteria.

Not on the main subject, but can someone explain what took place at this spot?

 

[Grogu]

5byfive said:

Grogu said:

5byfive said:

BMI works fine when you're looking at big groups of people. That's literally what it's built for. Using it to judge one person's health, though? That has to be one of the dumbest decisions we've ever made. Throwing waist to height ratios into the mix doesn't fix anything — it's just dressing up a pig.






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That is spot on. BMI was never intended to serve as a diagnostic instrument for individuals. For instance, if you look at a population sample and draw broad conclusions from it... For example, Japan's average BMI is 23 while the US sits at 29. In that context, BMI works well for gauging populations and their levels of excess weight.

What really drove home how flawed BMI is came when I came across the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger, during his competitive bodybuilding days, had a BMI of 31.5, which classified him as obese under BMI criteria.

Not on the main subject, but can someone explain what took place at this spot?View attachment 9936

What got me in trouble was sharing a link to a testing server I run. That breaks the rules unless you get approval first. I had no idea that rule existed — if I had, I would never have shared it. Most of my recruiting happened on other platforms, so my intention was to contribute something useful to this community. It won't happen again.

Honestly, there's some irony in it. I put hundreds of dollars of my own money into subsidizing that group's testing, and I also lined up a sizable contribution so members paid far less. Not a single dollar came back to me — the opposite, in fact.

Lesson learned.

 

[5byfive]

Grogu said:

5byfive said:

Grogu said:

5byfive said:

BMI works fine when you're looking at big groups of people. That's literally what it's built for. Using it to judge one person's health, though? That has to be one of the dumbest decisions we've ever made. Throwing waist to height ratios into the mix doesn't fix anything — it's just dressing up a pig.






View attachment 9935

That is spot on. BMI was never intended to serve as a diagnostic instrument for individuals. For instance, if you look at a population sample and draw broad conclusions from it... For example, Japan's average BMI is 23 while the US sits at 29. In that context, BMI works well for gauging populations and their levels of excess weight.

What really drove home how flawed BMI is came when I came across the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger, during his competitive bodybuilding days, had a BMI of 31.5, which classified him as obese under BMI criteria.

Not on the main subject, but can someone explain what took place at this spot?View attachment 9936

What got me in trouble was sharing a link to a testing server I run. That breaks the rules unless you get approval first. I had no idea that rule existed — if I had, I would never have shared it. Most of my recruiting happened on other platforms, so my intention was to contribute something useful to this community. It won't happen again.

Honestly, there's some irony in it. I put hundreds of dollars of my own money into subsidizing that group's testing, and I also lined up a sizable contribution so members paid far less. Not a single dollar came back to me — the opposite, in fact.

Lesson learned.

I doubt your stay in the penalty box will last very long.

 

[Beansnapper]

ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.

My body fat sits at 14%, and my BMI reads 26. I think BMI gets more credit than it deserves.