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I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
 
ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
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Could you clarify who "they" refers to?
 
BMI is nonsense anyway. Just pay attention to your own personal metrics and live a little more blissfully
 
BMI works fine when you're looking at big groups of people. That's literally what it's built for. Using it to judge one person's health, though? That has to be one of the dumbest decisions we've ever made. Throwing waist to height ratios into the mix doesn't fix anything — it's just dressing up a pig.






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The EASO (european assoc. for the study of obesity) established these guidelines, and the American Diabetes Association only just embraced them.
 
Who cares — at my absolute peak fitness, my BMI sat at 32… while my body fat was just 9%.

You have done an amazing job don’t worry about the silly bmi numbers.
 
HereKittyKitty said:

ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
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Could you clarify who "they" refers to?
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The World Health Organization, if I'm not mistaken?
 
Losing that much weight is a huge accomplishment. Over the past year, I've dropped 30lbs myself. Now I'm at 195. The internet says that puts me in the overweight category. It's been 20 years since I weighed this much or felt this fit—back when I was wrestling in high-school. Lol. We shouldn't let those in charge decide how we see ourselves or how we feel. They're terrible at it. If they were any good at their jobs, none of us would be here.

Keep going on your path and keep track of every win for yourself. In all of this, you're the one who counts.
 
ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
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I get where you're coming from. For the longest time, I let the BMI devil run my life, until I finally put my foot down. I believed that number mattered and that it told the truth, since you had to land in the obese category on the BMI chart just to qualify for glp1 treatment. Honestly, maybe that B stands for Bullshit? Right?

5byfive said:

BMI works fine when you're looking at big groups of people. That's literally what it's built for. Using it to judge one person's health, though? That has to be one of the dumbest decisions we've ever made. Throwing waist to height ratios into the mix doesn't fix anything — it's just dressing up a pig.






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ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
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That's the playbook for turning healthy folks into patients. Shift the cholesterol thresholds, and suddenly millions more are candidates for a statin. Shift the blood pressure thresholds, and the same thing happens with BP medications. That said, if it means insurers start covering glp1s for a larger group, there could be an upside.
 
ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
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The goal posts got shifted by big pharma, all so your PCP can hand out more prescriptions — in other words, profit off you. When you chose to go the Reta route (which is still in clinical trials), you weren't taking big pharma's word for it, so why start now?

That weight loss is a huge achievement. Be proud of it, hold your head high, and keep pushing ahead. Congrats!
 
Likely drug company lobbying aimed at expanding insurance coverage for brand-name products by reducing the threshold, given that large numbers of people have left lilly for other options
 
I don't go around calling myself obese. I've got the physique of a deity.......... sadly, that deity happens to be Buddha.
 
CNCCurrency said:

HereKittyKitty said:

ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
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Could you clarify who "they" refers to?
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The World Health Organization, if I'm not mistaken?
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A European organization/agency was the one that identified it, and the US then adopted it.
 
carriekaye said:

ghreid said:

I've been using reta for 17 months now, and I've lost 125lbs. Based on the charts, I'm in the overweight category and would need to drop 5 more lbs to reach the normal range. But this week, they shifted the criteria. The updated guideline says BMI is just one factor in the assessment;

1. normal weight: BMI 18.5- <25

2. Overweight: BMI 25 - <30 and a waist to height (inches) of <0.5

3. Obese: BMI >30 or BMI 25 - <30 with WHtR <0.5 and any other medical condition such as hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, Lung disease, kidney disease, heart disease and depression.

My BMI is 25.2, WHtR = .21, and I have hypertension. I went from being slightly overweight to obese again. So sad.
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That's the playbook for turning healthy folks into patients. Shift the cholesterol thresholds, and suddenly millions more are candidates for a statin. Shift the blood pressure thresholds, and the same thing happens with BP medications. That said, if it means insurers start covering glp1s for a larger group, there could be an upside.
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That's exactly my view. For blood pressure, I continue to use the earlier 140/90 threshold. It seems like they're constantly shifting the targets so that more people end up prescribed BP medication.
 
62M, 5-10, 192 pounds.

I realize BMI charts are designed with younger populations in mind, and at my height the 'overweight' threshold kicks in at 174 pounds.

That said, among middle aged and older men who are in decent shape, a BMI between 25 and 27 tends to come with lower mortality than the supposedly 'ideal' 22-23 range. The reasons include frailty, muscle loss, weaker bones and the dangers tied to those.

It really does seem that muscle is life.
 
Redz said:

Who cares — at my absolute peak fitness, my BMI sat at 32… while my body fat was just 9%.

You have done an amazing job don’t worry about the silly bmi numbers.
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At 23 I was part of the battalion boxing team. I did 2 workouts daily, each lasting 3 hours, and was in the best condition I’ve ever had. Even then, at 5'9", my weight was 173 despite eating clean.
 
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