Newb Qs

[Seasonal1]

Gr33dyOctopus said:

islandtime50 said:

I suppose I could simply keep quiet, but that wouldn't be any enjoyable, would it?

Of course there's a distinction between intelligence and ignorance, lol. The plain insinuation is that at least 1 of them is missing - not exactly a razor-sharp bit of reasoning (second degree - honours English lit, minor creative writing).

Saying you're not calling someone dumb is actually calling them dumb.

I haven't been applying any rigour to what I write on an internet forum, so I guess you could carry on listing mistakes. Sorry for being honest? Am I a record holder now?

Then came the final piece of advice to 'be safe.' What on earth would that imply?

It's practically a catalogue of clichés you can batter every new forum member with whenever they seem too keen (except I'm neither keen nor young, nor after approval ... I could keep going)

Thanks for the repeated slaps - a blunt reminder of unfiltered internet reality.

Oh great, another guy like this... I bet you're a blast at parties, but I'm blocking you since you're fresh here and already annoying my friends. Bye forever, Nancy Boy.

The number of people I've added to my "ignore" list keeps increasing as well....

 

[Vriende]

davefromfv said:

For a moment there, I was convinced this was Reddit.....smh.

Yeah, it's pretty cringe -- some of these dudes are whipping each other up, going after the newbies as if they're shooting a Lord of the Flies reboot.

Why don't you fellas cut it out and go get some sleep?

 

[BNLFL]

Gr33dyOctopus said:

islandtime50 said:

I suppose I could simply keep quiet, but that wouldn't be any enjoyable, would it?

Of course there's a distinction between intelligence and ignorance, lol. The plain insinuation is that at least 1 of them is missing - not exactly a razor-sharp bit of reasoning (second degree - honours English lit, minor creative writing).

Saying you're not calling someone dumb is actually calling them dumb.

I haven't been applying any rigour to what I write on an internet forum, so I guess you could carry on listing mistakes. Sorry for being honest? Am I a record holder now?

Then came the final piece of advice to 'be safe.' What on earth would that imply?

It's practically a catalogue of clichés you can batter every new forum member with whenever they seem too keen (except I'm neither keen nor young, nor after approval ... I could keep going)

Thanks for the repeated slaps - a blunt reminder of unfiltered internet reality.

Oh great, another guy like this... I bet you're a blast at parties, but I'm blocking you since you're fresh here and already annoying my friends. Bye forever, Nancy Boy.

Mine came from him as well.

Skidude said:


I think the difference if 8mm vs 5 mm

but if you are bloody and bruised you may have an issue

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No issues on my end. I'm just browsing for now, and I'll keep using the 90 degree option paired with the 8mm. Appreciate it.

Vriende said:

davefromfv said:

For a moment there, I was convinced this was Reddit.....smh.

Yeah, it's pretty cringe -- some of these dudes are whipping each other up, going after the newbies as if they're shooting a Lord of the Flies reboot.

Why don't you fellas cut it out and go get some sleep?

Which person do you mean?

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

BNLFL said:


He made mine too.

All good here. Just reading, I'll stick with the 90 degree with the 8mm. Thanks.

Who are you talking about?

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A number of these newcomers show hardly any respect, tact, or common sense, and it comes through in how quickly they dismiss and disregard the regular contributors who have been around for a while.

That is not cool. If they are going to act like silly little kids right from the start, you are welcome to take them, my friend .

I would rather not have to deal with entitled grown children.

I would not want to put Vierned in an awkward spot, and even though I think he is a nice guy, I am ignoring him now too.

 

[trey915]

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

 

[Redz]

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

 

[BNLFL]

Gr33dyOctopus said:


some of these new folks have very little respect, tact or common sense and it shows in thier early disrespect and disregard to regular contributors that have been here awhile.

Its not cool. if they want to be silly little kids out the gate, you can have them my friend .

Id rather not deal with grown and entitled children.

I wouldnt want to embarrass Vierned and though i think hes a nice guy, ignoring him now too.

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Those little 8 year olds? No way in hell I'd want them, and you know it.

Seems like his expectation is that we just park ourselves at our desks, hands folded — wouldn't be the first time I've watched that happen. Solid plan.

 

[trey915]

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

My mistake—typo on my end. Each shot is .1mg.

 

[islandtime50]

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

After mixing, I won't be putting it in the freezer. What I was really curious about is how those using larger amounts, say T60 and above, handle things so they don't throw away bacteriostatic water.

My interest in tirzepatide is for micro dosing, aiming at its anti-inflammatory properties rather than weight loss (most of my colon was removed because of cancer). On top of that, I ordered T10 but received T15, so with both of those factors combined, my mixed vial will be around long enough that the bac water will spoil.

It's clear to me now that 1) hardly any of the people who replied seem to have thought about micro dosing, and 2) you can freeze reconstituted tirz 1 time, but bac water doesn't cost much, and I'd prefer to keep the tirz in its lyophilized form where it's relatively safe.

 

[trey915]

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

So you divide it among several vials, and after that you simply keep them in the fridge?

 

[Flash-BCR]

islandtime50 said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

After mixing, I won't be putting it in the freezer. What I was really curious about is how those using larger amounts, say T60 and above, handle things so they don't throw away bacteriostatic water.

My interest in tirzepatide is for micro dosing, aiming at its anti-inflammatory properties rather than weight loss (most of my colon was removed because of cancer). On top of that, I ordered T10 but received T15, so with both of those factors combined, my mixed vial will be around long enough that the bac water will spoil.

It's clear to me now that 1) hardly any of the people who replied seem to have thought about micro dosing, and 2) you can freeze reconstituted tirz 1 time, but bac water doesn't cost much, and I'd prefer to keep the tirz in its lyophilized form where it's relatively safe.

KPV could be worth checking out too...It's generally considered a solid anti-inflammation pep...

 

[Flash-BCR]

trey915 said:

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

My mistake—typo on my end. Each shot is .1mg.

DSIP isn't in my stash so far, though I might get some...but .1mg strikes me as quite a small amount...Has it had any effect on you at that level?...

 

[trey915]

Flash-BCR said:

trey915 said:

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

My mistake—typo on my end. Each shot is .1mg.

DSIP isn't in my stash so far, though I might get some...but .1mg strikes me as quite a small amount...Has it had any effect on you at that level?...

From what I came across, that figure is the initial dosage. My first kit should arrive sometime next week, so I have nothing to report on outcomes so far.

 

[HouseCat]

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

I’m in the dark when it comes to DSIP — both how it survives in the fridge and what happens if you freeze and thaw it. Tirz, which is what I use and therefore know reasonably well, is really tough, whereas Reta (popular among many of my friends on here) doesn’t handle freeze/thaw cycles the way tirz does. Different peptides behave differently, and for the ones that aren’t GLP-1, reliable information can be tough to track down. A widely repeated guideline is that a reconstituted peptide should be used within roughly 8 weeks (though plenty of people cap it at 28 days, and others just finish the vial — very typical with multi-use compounded tirz vials). Some break down faster than that, though. @CNCCurrency shared a helpful chart about peptide degradation, but DSIP doesn’t appear on it.

Post in thread 'PSA: NAD+ user it or lose it after 14 days'

/community-link/thread/2755/

You might find leads on DSIP through Peptidedosages.com or pep-pedia.org… at the bottom of their pages, they cite the peer-reviewed sources behind the information, and chasing those citations could get you somewhere.

If a peer-reviewed journal paywall is blocking you, start by googling “sci-hub” to find Sci-Hub’s current working page. Then take the article’s DOI number, enter it into Sci-Hub, and you can read the paper. Best of luck — and if you turn up anything useful on DSIP, please pass it along!

EDIT: On pep-pedia.org, the DSIP entry gives 0.1mg (100mcg) as a starting daily dose, with a maximum of 0.3mg (300mcg). So if you begin at 100mcg daily for the first 2 weeks, move to 200mcg for the next 2 weeks, then go to 300mcg, a 10mg vial will last you about 9ish weeks.

 

[islandtime50]

Flash-BCR said:

islandtime50 said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

After mixing, I won't be putting it in the freezer. What I was really curious about is how those using larger amounts, say T60 and above, handle things so they don't throw away bacteriostatic water.

My interest in tirzepatide is for micro dosing, aiming at its anti-inflammatory properties rather than weight loss (most of my colon was removed because of cancer). On top of that, I ordered T10 but received T15, so with both of those factors combined, my mixed vial will be around long enough that the bac water will spoil.

It's clear to me now that 1) hardly any of the people who replied seem to have thought about micro dosing, and 2) you can freeze reconstituted tirz 1 time, but bac water doesn't cost much, and I'd prefer to keep the tirz in its lyophilized form where it's relatively safe.

KPV could be worth checking out too...It's generally considered a solid anti-inflammation pep...

I appreciate it, and I plan to! I'm simply not at that stage yet.

Right now I want to stabilize my current routine and then reassess once I get some blood work done (I've already had quite a bit of fairly recent blood work to establish a baseline).

Clearly, I still need to pick up a few more supplies just for this.

Since December, quite a few things have shifted in terms of which foods I can handle and still reach the same macros I used to hit. Whether I should even be aiming for the same lifting and body composition targets is another question. There are new practical issues too, like if I eat the wrong thing I'll have a bathroom emergency mid-run, so my running routes are different and I haven't even built back up to my longer runs. Apparently coffee has now joined creatine and alcohol on the list of things I can't have anymore - I've tested all 3 and there doesn't seem to be any middle ground, it's all or nothing. It's strange to suddenly be a teetotaler. I've consumed so much kombucha at the local pubs that my back teeth have floated. And near beer has just never tasted right to me.

 

[BNLFL]

trey915 said:

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

My mistake—typo on my end. Each shot is .1mg.

I think you're referring to 1mg, not .1.

 

[BNLFL]

trey915 said:

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

So you divide it among several vials, and after that you simply keep them in the fridge?

Reconstitute just 1 vial at a time, not all 10.

Have you begun mixing and injecting yet?

 

[BNLFL]

Flash-BCR said:

trey915 said:

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

My mistake—typo on my end. Each shot is .1mg.

DSIP isn't in my stash so far, though I might get some...but .1mg strikes me as quite a small amount...Has it had any effect on you at that level?...

Check this out below, friend. At that low a level, I could still make out the marking on the syringe.

BNLFL said:

trey915 said:

Redz said:

trey915 said:

HouseCat said:

I’ve got nothing better to do at the moment, so I’ll take a shot at this. By the way, everyone who posted before me knows their stuff. These are all kind folks who just want to help you out. (Fair warning: a few people around here are VERY direct and won’t sugarcoat anything LOL!)

1. Trying to keep converting mg to mL back and forth just tangled me up, so I’m leaving that part alone. Around here, most folks reach for 1mL/100 unit or 0.3mL/30 unit insulin syringes, 29 to 32g, for GLP-1s. If the Luer locks are already in your hands, though, hang onto them. Pinching the skin sometimes makes the needle slide in without getting bent. For reconning, I use 5mL and 10mL syringe barrels (the 10mL ones for high BAC volume peps that I divide into 2 3mL pen cartridges), with 1.5” and 5/8” needles, and I don’t go bigger than 25 gauge so the self-seal top doesn’t get torn up. I’m a easy bruiser, yet with 6-7 pins daily I typically see just a dot of blood 1-2x per week. That’s about the same frequency as when I get acupuncture—1 tiny dot of blood in 1 spot out of 20 needles. Trying better needles might be worth it. BD & Easy Touch are dependable brands (others exist too; use the search function to find more).

2. Tirz that’s been reconned handles 1 freeze/thaw cycle well—it’s the “cockroach of peptides.” BAC remains stable for up to 120 days. A few people push it past that. Micro dosing tirz is definitely a thing, though usually for maintenance or when someone has very little to lose. The typical low-dose starting point is 2.5mg.

3. Storing the kit in Tupperware and putting it in the freezer is fine. Add a desiccant pouch or two, though. I found out that even a hydrapeak can get frost inside. With an auto-defrost freezer, if you want to be extra careful, put your tirz in a thermos/hydrapeak/foam cooler or similar to avoid temp swings—but for the powder it’s not really necessary. For reconned, I’d use a thermos since you don’t want more than 1 freeze/thaw cycle, and these little vials thaw very fast.

4. Look at my #1

5. If this is going to your wife, get some filters. Not that you aren’t worth filtering, but when you’re giving it to someone else, extra caution is good practice. Search Biologix on here…their 13mm PES 0.22micron filters are high quality and also the best price for sterile filters.

You’ve already figured out that reconning/injecting in practice is a whole different ballgame from theory! Read around here quite a bit for good tips and also failure stories (I overpressurized a MOTS-C recon… @Skidude and others helped me figure out my mistake —we all make them!)

Regarding your #1 answer above... I'm asking because of DSIP, not Tirz. By mistake I bought the 10mg kit, which comes to roughly 100 doses, and since I plan to follow a 3x per week schedule, that works out to about 8 months. From what I understand, after reconstitution it should either be used or discarded within 28 days. So my idea is to reconstitute at 15:1 (divided across (5) 3ml cartridges) and put 4 of them in the freezer while I use the remaining 1. I've read that freezing a peptide after reconstitution is not recommended. But it sounds like that's what you're doing. Can you confirm, and tell me whether there's anything to consider, downsides, risks, etc? Thank you.

Once you’ve reconstituted it, putting it in the freezer will destroy it. And there’s no need to discard it once 28 days pass…

That said, your numbers don’t add up: with a 10x 10mg kit, drawing 1mg 3x each week won’t be a problem. A single vial would be used up in under 4 weeks.

Just mix up a vial when you’re ready to use it.

My mistake—typo on my end. Each shot is .1mg.

I think you're referring to 1mg, not .1.

 

[Redz]

Each kit contains 10 vials, and every vial holds 10mg. Simply mix up a single vial whenever you need it.