Klow/Wolverine stack?

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Klow is already wolverine+, I get it. However, is there any (non idiotic) scenario in which one might stack Klow and Wolverine. I ask mainly because my tennis elbow is starting to bother me and that Wolverine in my freezer is looking real good right now, despite that I already have Klow in my stack. The Klow shot is so small, and my elbow pain is getting bigger, so might a little extra Wolv not be the worst idea? I don't want to increase the Klow because I don't wany to unnecessarily increase the other stuff.

Thoughts?
 
Kirbyzx6 said:


Have you considered doing a cycle of Cartalax ? Another option is adding a dose of tb500 + bpc-157 at Night.

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that's wolverine, which is exactly my question. Klow in the am, Wolv in the pm?
 
A YouTuber named Nick Trigili just made a video on this subject: "Everyone is using the GLOW stack wrong". He advocates using the KLOW components separately because of dosing differences and half-life differences.

It will be a bit more expensive when they're not part of the KLOW package, but his reasoning seemed sound. Maybe the copper component isn't even necessary for your purposes. It's probably worth giving him a listen and then reading up on research.
 
Kirbyzx6 said:


Have you considered doing a cycle of Cartalax ? Another option is adding a dose of tb500 + bpc-157 at Night.

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Is Cartalax actually effective? I've read that it's really slow to act, plus few sellers carries it (i've found none to my location), which makes me a bit sceptic of it.
 
Makoto said:


Is Cartalax actually effective? I've read that it's really slow to act, plus few sellers carries it (i've found none to my location), which makes me a bit sceptic of it.

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misspelled my name
 
Personally I’m taking KLOW but I still top off some extra BPC-157 earlier in the day for my tennis elbow/golfer’s elbow/whatever-the-hell-is-wrong-with-my-elbow. I get the “KLOW doesn’t allow you to adjust your dose” argument, but if you use it as a base and add individually onto it you still sort of can lol
 
Makoto said:


Is Cartalax actually effective? I've read that it's really slow to act, plus few sellers carries it (i've found none to my location), which makes me a bit sceptic of it.

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Define effective ? I’ve been on bpc-157 + Tb500 for 8 weeks I added a 20 day cartalax a month ago and have seen relief in daily low back pain. Is it the wolverine kicking in or is it the cartalax cycle ? Unsure but I’ll take the lowered inflammation and back relief.
 
Kirbyzx6 said:


Define effective ? I’ve been on bpc-157 + Tb500 for 8 weeks I added a 20 day cartalax a month ago and have seen relief in daily low back pain. Is it the wolverine kicking in or is it the cartalax cycle ? Unsure but I’ll take the lowered inflammation and back relief.

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Yeah, that's the thing, most people i've seen comment positively on Cartalax are also on BPC+TB. On people that are on Cartalax i've seen extremes: either it's the best thing ever or it does nothing, lol. I'll just have to get it myself to check if it works for me (or not) i guess.
 
Chrissven said:


Hey, how high do you dose the bpc157 and tb4?

I plan to take 1mg of each in the morning and 1mg in the evening. Do you think that's too much?

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Everything I've read says yes that's quite a bit. I've alleviated two persistent joint issues over a one month cycle at 500mcg each per day.
 
Makes sense to add if the Klow dose is not doing what you need bp/tb-wise. Although if you are needing to add due to an injury, it would also make sense to use TB and BP separately (only one extra stick if that's an issue), dose BP daily and TB every other day at a higher dose until the injury subsides. The wolverine stack locks your dosages to a ratio just like Klow does.
 
Kirbyzx6 said:


Define effective ? I’ve been on bpc-157 + Tb500 for 8 weeks I added a 20 day cartalax a month ago and have seen relief in daily low back pain. Is it the wolverine kicking in or is it the cartalax cycle ? Unsure but I’ll take the lowered inflammation and back relief.

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Could you tell me what the cycle and dosage is that ur trying with cartalax? I'm about to order some and I'm looking around for what people are doing with it to get a sense of where to start?
 
Stayinalive said:


Could you tell me what the cycle and dosage is that ur trying with cartalax? I'm about to order some and I'm looking around for what people are doing with it to get a sense of where to start?

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There are multiple approaches depending on response and level of repair.

•2 mg/day for 20 days (user-reported for AC joint/stiffness): "I took it for 20 days, 2 mg a day"

•4 mg/day for 50 days (user research plan): "I am gonna start a 4 mg a day for 50 days"

•2–5 mg daily (supplier protocol guidance): "used at ~2–5 mg daily (subcutaneously)"

You can always start at the 2mg a day for 20 consecutive days see how you body and injury has responded.
 
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