Janoshik Findings for Ocean Bac (Finally Shared)

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About 6 weeks back, I posted that I'd joined a group buy for Ocean Bac, paying roughly 100usd per case. Today the Janoshik Testing results arrived....

MOD EDIT: The results have been taken down because they broke the rule about posting group test results without permission (see /community-link/thread/24/). The thread was also relocated to the Lab Testing Results/Reports section—where such posts would go if they didn't already break the rules—since people keep dumping off-topic stuff into the Public Square section.
 
The benzyl alcohol concentration of .82% falls inside USP limits. A pH reading of 7.23 exceeds what USP allows. Over on Peppy's, a thread covers how hard it is to get accurate BAC measurements for pH and alcohol content, noting that specific methods are needed. Whether Jano uses those methods remains unclear, though Peter got tagged in that discussion. Further updates may follow.
 
A reading of 7.3 on the pH scale looks like it could be an issue. For the GLP-1 class it may not matter much, but when it comes to reconstituting CJC-1295 or Ipamorelin, that value is a concern.
 
The reading is 7.23 pH. Although that sits near neutral, it creates issues for nearly every peptide. Nearly all of them would break down faster because of it, and the effect would be even greater with something like Reta. Since pH is logarithmic, every single unit shift equals a tenfold difference in hydrogen ion concentration, so if my math is right, 7.23 pH is 1.7x more alkaline. Every Ocean test I have come across before this one stayed within USP specs, so in my view we should wait to hear from Jano.
 
Sadly, they don't run assays for breakdown byproducts such as benzaldehyde. Had that been included, we could have figured out if this is aged water that has shifted in pH, or a flaw baked into the manufacturing process.

I wouldn't put that water into my own body.
 
Hospira's formulation sits at 5.7pH with 9% BA. Testing shows it lands right around those figures as well.
 
From what's being discussed over on Peppy's, Janoshik's approach to measuring pH in BAC is the proper one. Given how much BAC people are chasing at the moment, that's hardly welcome. Which means Hospira now stands alone as the brand that keeps clearing every test. Annoying.
 
Chili777 said:

From what's being discussed over on Peppy's, Janoshik's approach to measuring pH in BAC is the proper one. Given how much BAC people are chasing at the moment, that's hardly welcome. Which means Hospira now stands alone as the brand that keeps clearing every test. Annoying.
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So you're telling me a case costs $1,000? lol
 
Chili777 said:

The reading is 7.23 pH. Although that sits near neutral, it creates issues for nearly every peptide. Nearly all of them would break down faster because of it, and the effect would be even greater with something like Reta. Since pH is logarithmic, every single unit shift equals a tenfold difference in hydrogen ion concentration, so if my math is right, 7.23 pH is 1.7x more alkaline. Every Ocean test I have come across before this one stayed within USP specs, so in my view we should wait to hear from Jano.
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Thanks for the science. That's outside my knowledge. I appreciate you sharing it.
 
BNLFL said:

Hospira's formulation sits at 5.7pH with 9% BA. Testing shows it lands right around those figures as well.
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Are you referring to 0.9%? I simply want to make it unambiguous for any newcomers to grey who may be following this.
 
HereKittyKitty said:

BNLFL said:

Hospira's formulation sits at 5.7pH with 9% BA. Testing shows it lands right around those figures as well.
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Are you referring to 0.9%? I simply want to make it unambiguous for any newcomers to grey who may be following this.
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I should be able to sort that out, understood. Appreciate it.
 
HereKittyKitty said:

BNLFL said:

Hospira's formulation sits at 5.7pH with 9% BA. Testing shows it lands right around those figures as well.
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Are you referring to 0.9%? I simply want to make it unambiguous for any newcomers to grey who may be following this.
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Nope, 9% is what they're referring to. That explains the $1,000 price tag. 🤣
 
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